I am actually not pedalling them and some commercial types are alright like NDM,Okrung,keow sawoy, and a few others from SE Asia and KP relatives taste good.Being commercial doesnt make them bad tasting varieties but most commercial types are I suppose.The real trash are the TAs,kent,kiett,palmer,brooks and irwin with failed here as commercial and backyard varieties due to consumer criticism and dislike.They are not snobs and routinely eat NDM,caraboa and others that are plantation grown in vast numbers.Lemon zest and orange sherbert get the wraps and if good enough for enthusiasts should do alright commercially if they are productive and disease resistant.