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Tropical Fruit => Tropical Fruit Discussion => Topic started by: KarenRei on February 19, 2018, 04:21:27 AM
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So, the other day I was looking at a mess of old passionfruit leaves and thinking... "I wonder if there's anything I can do with these". So today I googled it. Apparently they're quite edible, used fresh, as a cooked green, and dried in tea (credited as being relaxing, as well as a number of other health effects).
Wondering whether there might be any adverse health effects, I went to scholar.google.com to search for peer-reviewed research... and found just the opposite. Apparently they're being studied for use as an anti-anxiety medication, with quite positive results. Examples:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0367326X01003227 (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0367326X01003227)
http://www.ijppsjournal.com/Vol3Issue1/1002.pdf (http://www.ijppsjournal.com/Vol3Issue1/1002.pdf)
https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00216-016-9376-4 (https://link.springer.com/article/10.1007/s00216-016-9376-4)
http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?pid=S1516-89132006000500005&script=sci_arttext&tlng=es (http://www.scielo.br/scielo.php?pid=S1516-89132006000500005&script=sci_arttext&tlng=es)
https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/f0d8/23f38ca5039cbd760141d507794ab0d40a20.pdf (https://pdfs.semanticscholar.org/f0d8/23f38ca5039cbd760141d507794ab0d40a20.pdf)
Metastudy:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0378874104000856 (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0378874104000856)
They're also effective as a cough suppressant and an antiasthmatic in the right doses:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0367326X02001168 (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0367326X02001168)
http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ptr.1151/full (http://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/10.1002/ptr.1151/full)
Anticonvulsive:
https://www.thieme-connect.com/products/ejournals/abstract/10.1055/s-2007-969715 (https://www.thieme-connect.com/products/ejournals/abstract/10.1055/s-2007-969715)
... and much more... basically a general CNS depressant with some nice effects. And they're quite antioxidant:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0963996913000033 (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0963996913000033)
http://europepmc.org/articles/pmc2865792 (http://europepmc.org/articles/pmc2865792)
And antiinflammatory:
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0378874106003680 (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0378874106003680)
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0367326X06002620 (https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0367326X06002620)
P. incarnata (maypop) appears to be the most potent medicinal passiflora, but most species contain the active compounds to come extent (the closest to P. incarnata is P. caerulea, followed by P. lutea and P. capsularis). The compounds are not found in any significant concentration in the roots, stems, or flowers; the leaves appear to be the primary source. Concerning extracts, methanolic extracts are about 10x as potent as aqueous extracts (tea) - but aqueous extracts are still effective. More to the point, it appears to be the water-soluble fraction of the methanolic extracts that has the effect.
I think when I get home I'm going to be doing some pruning ;) Hopefully the taste is decent.
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Thanks for all the info Karen!
Simon
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Indeed, passionfruit leaf finished among the top 6 medicinals tested for longevity (using a yeast "model") in one study of about 37 legendary herbs. Life span increased about 369% for the top herb (white willow bark). Anti inflammatory effects are deemed causative. I take this as a tea every day. Use it in the evening as it does aid sleep.
Anecdotally, a friend gave 3 fruits to a chronic insomniac and she slept for nearly 12 hours that night.
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Indeed, passionfruit leaf finished among the top 6 medicinals tested for longevity (using a yeast "model") in one study of about 34 legendary herbs. Life span increased about 30% for the top herb (white willow bark). Anti inflammatory effects are deemed causative. I take this as a tea every day. Use it in the evening as it does aid sleep.
Anecdotally, a friend gave 3 fruits to a chronic insomniac and she slept for nearly 12 hours that night.
so how many leaves do you use to make a tea? this is good news, lots of passiflora leaves
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You can buy dried passionfruit leaves in many health food stores, and online herbals.Yes they are from P. incaranata. I believe native Americans knew about its effects and used it for hundreds of years. For herbal dosages one of the best books is Mrs. Grieves, A Modern Herbal, 2 volumes. Available on Amazon. Not sure if you can read it online?
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So, I'm trying this for the first time tonight. Observational notes:
1) Raw leaf: too strong for me to eat in a salad or whatnot. Maybe cooked in some dishes with other strong flavours.
2) Tea taste (I used 5 large P. edulis leaves in an oversized coffee mug of near-boiling water): the first taste I got was just "leaf". Nothing else. Kind of unappealing, but not distasteful... just uninteresting. However, the more I've been drinking it the more I've been picking up this subtle mint flavour that wasn't there in the beginning.
3) Either this was some crazy timing, or maybe I'm having a very strong psychosomatic effect..... OR, this stuff does exactly what it says on the tin. I was only a quarter of the way into the mug when I noticed that I felt sleepy. And not "normal sleepy"; but like something was actively dragging my awakeness level down. Yet not of the type of effect to cause an imminent "fall asleep at my computer" effect. I'll just put it this way, I don't think I'll have any trouble falling asleep tonight. ;) I also have this sort of heavy and/or tingly effect around my head.... maybe a very tiny bit of that feeling you get when you've had skin numbed for a medical procedure. But again, not a strong feeling like that.
I definitely have to try this again to see if it's a coincidence or if this is a consistently reproduceble effect. But so far, I have to say that I'm believing these reports.
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Indeed, passionfruit leaf finished among the top 6 medicinals tested for longevity (using a yeast "model") in one study of about 34 legendary herbs. Life span increased about 30% for the top herb (white willow bark). Anti inflammatory effects are deemed causative. I take this as a tea every day. Use it in the evening as it does aid sleep.
Anecdotally, a friend gave 3 fruits to a chronic insomniac and she slept for nearly 12 hours that night.
Hey Future, can you please list the other top 6?
Karen, please let us know what you feel next time you take the tea again.
Simon
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I like this info. I have been reading a lot about guava leaves tea, but passionfruit leave is a new discovery to me, good to know, since i have a lot of leaves which i have been giving to the chicken :)
I am wondering if it is possible to mix different leaves in one tea to make a super tea which combines different medicinal properties (guava - passion fruit for example, + green tea to bring the good taste to the mixture).
I considered doing it with guava leaves and green tea, but i was afraid that the two types of leaves will activiate "dangerous" compounds when boiled together, or at least they activate some compounds that neutralize each other's effect. I guess there are no scientific evidence to deny or confirm such fears, so what do you think about this? is it probably safe to mix different plant leaves in one super tea?
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Drinking a tea of incarnata flower as I type this. Just used one flower and a little bit of water. Tastes fine with nothing added.
I've been making tea out of ceylon cinnamon leaves, lemon balm, 1 little neem leaf, and honey. Sometimes I add some jasmine humilis flowers or leaves. Stops my sneezing and other allergy symptoms as well as Claritin D. More than one neem leaf, it gets pretty bitter.
My friend's dad makes neem tea every day, swears it brings his blood sugar down 10 - 15 points.
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Passion fruit tea is very common in Brazil and also recommended to people who suffers of insomnia.
Great post!
So, I'm trying this for the first time tonight. Observational notes:
1) Raw leaf: too strong for me to eat in a salad or whatnot. Maybe cooked in some dishes with other strong flavours.
2) Tea taste (I used 5 large P. edulis leaves in an oversized coffee mug of near-boiling water): the first taste I got was just "leaf". Nothing else. Kind of unappealing, but not distasteful... just uninteresting. However, the more I've been drinking it the more I've been picking up this subtle mint flavour that wasn't there in the beginning.
3) Either this was some crazy timing, or maybe I'm having a very strong psychosomatic effect..... OR, this stuff does exactly what it says on the tin. I was only a quarter of the way into the mug when I noticed that I felt sleepy. And not "normal sleepy"; but like something was actively dragging my awakeness level down. Yet not of the type of effect to cause an imminent "fall asleep at my computer" effect. I'll just put it this way, I don't think I'll have any trouble falling asleep tonight. ;) I also have this sort of heavy and/or tingly effect around my head.... maybe a very tiny bit of that feeling you get when you've had skin numbed for a medical procedure. But again, not a strong feeling like that.
I definitely have to try this again to see if it's a coincidence or if this is a consistently reproduceble effect. But so far, I have to say that I'm believing these reports.
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Excellent-flavored teas, in tea bags, of Passiflora edulis, are available in Brazilian sections of food stores: "cha' de Maracuja' ".
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Good info, thanks, I will try it!
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Here's an idea, if you want better taste, put a couple of cinnamon leaves in there when you make the tea. Cinnamon leaf tea also has many, many health benefits, combine the two and you may live forever ;-)
Bruce
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I like this info. I have been reading a lot about guava leaves tea, but passionfruit leave is a new discovery to me, good to know, since i have a lot of leaves which i have been giving to the chicken :)
I am wondering if it is possible to mix different leaves in one tea to make a super tea which combines different medicinal properties (guava - passion fruit for example, + green tea to bring the good taste to the mixture).
I considered doing it with guava leaves and green tea, but i was afraid that the two types of leaves will activiate "dangerous" compounds when boiled together, or at least they activate some compounds that neutralize each other's effect. I guess there are no scientific evidence to deny or confirm such fears, so what do you think about this? is it probably safe to mix different plant leaves in one super tea?
I use to mix pitanga and guava leaves for tea (I like more the pitanga taste... the mix is very good, even my daughter drinks it), sometimes some campomanesia as for instance c. lineatifolia and pitanga, or even another psidiums... not bad at all.. but they are from the same family...
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So many fruit plants make good teas. Here is beginning of a list:
Surinam Cherry
Loquat
Guava
Cinnamon
Allspice
Passionfruit
Campomanesia
I'm sure i've forgotten lots, feel free to add.
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I love this post! Great to learn something new. I drink green tea everyday and now I have a world of options to make a new "super tea". Great job. Thanks for the post and links Karen, and thank you for the list Oscar. Chris
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I like this info. I have been reading a lot about guava leaves tea, but passionfruit leave is a new discovery to me, good to know, since i have a lot of leaves which i have been giving to the chicken :)
I am wondering if it is possible to mix different leaves in one tea to make a super tea which combines different medicinal properties (guava - passion fruit for example, + green tea to bring the good taste to the mixture).
I considered doing it with guava leaves and green tea, but i was afraid that the two types of leaves will activiate "dangerous" compounds when boiled together, or at least they activate some compounds that neutralize each other's effect. I guess there are no scientific evidence to deny or confirm such fears, so what do you think about this? is it probably safe to mix different plant leaves in one super tea?
Dangerous reactions are not impossible, but they're not exactly likely either. Think of how many chemicals you're heating together every time you cook... that hasn't killed you, now has it? ;)
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Jambolan, is another species in the myrtle family, that has leaves good for tea, which helps to control blood sugar level. This is important in Ayurvedic medicine, where I think they call it Jamb.
Malay-Apple leaves and flowers are often eaten or chewed on, so are probably tasty for tea too.
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Cool, thanks Karen!
Like Oscar mentions, I make a tea from my loquat leaves. It is mild but very pleasant.
I also occasionally make a tea from fig leaves too.
But, my big P. edulis vine grows like crazy and I just end up composting the trimmings when it gets too out of hand. I will be trying some tea instead! The caterpillars will just have to share :)
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adding to the list ,,, jujube tea good for fatigue-insomnia-shortness of breath to name a few,, white sapote leaf tea for high blood pressure and a sleep aid helps you sleep more restfully. the jujube tea i give my wife every morning with breakfast and the white sapote tea every night at bedtime, these i know work very well sometimes she also drinks loquat leaf tea good for the lungs and sometimes guava leaf tea. i mostly collect my YOUNG TENDER LEAVES when i prune or early in the growing season when i am getting new growth, "young leaves are more flavorful and not bitter " and i am assuming here that just like regular tea that the compounds are more prevalent in the younger leaves. i normally collect my leaves by the crate /box and dry them in the clothes dryer and store them for later use. DO NOT FORGET to clean out the dryer and lint trap. Patrick
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Could people explain how they make tea out of these various leaves? buddy roo mentions drying them . . . does everyone here dry the leaves to make tea, or are they ever used fresh? Thanks!
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Older leaves have accumulated higher concentrations of many ingredients--- that is one reason they taste stronger or bitter.
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So many fruit plants make good teas. Here is beginning of a list:
Surinam Cherry
Loquat
Guava
Cinnamon
Allspice
Passionfruit
Campomanesia
I'm sure i've forgotten lots, feel free to add.
Modify message
Jambolan (aka java plum)
Malay Apple ?
Jujube
White Sapote
Soursop (use with caution)
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Roblack: I use a single fresh leaf and steep for anywhere from 15minutes to an hour. The taste is mild but I am not drinking it for entertainment.
Simon: Top 6 are
White willow bark
Passionleaf
Ginkgo. Biloba
Black cohosh
Valerian
Celery seed
Everyone should note some plants differ in excitatory or calming nature. I use white willow, Passionleaf and valerian in the evening. Ginkgo, astragalus plus green tea mid morning. I don't use black cohosh as mixed views on if this affect testosterone or not. A green light for women though.
Thanks to all posting other teas. Loquat grows wild all over Bermuda yet most walk past it...a few buy it in a Chinese formula to strengthen the lungs...go figure. Curious on guava leaf..excitatory or calming?
Had no idea about white sapote either...or another one growing wild here: Surinam cherry.
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Could people explain how they make tea out of these various leaves? buddy roo mentions drying them . . . does everyone here dry the leaves to make tea, or are they ever used fresh? Thanks!
I've used surinam cherry, cinammon, and loquat leaves fresh, and think they are better fresh. I think main reason for drying is for long term storage.
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Roblack: I use a single fresh leaf and steep for anywhere from 15minutes to an hour. The taste is mild but I am not drinking it for entertainment.
Simon: Top 6 are
White willow bark
Passionleaf
Ginkgo. Biloba
Black cohosh
Valerian
Celery seed
Everyone should note some plants differ in excitatory or calming nature. I use white willow, Passionleaf and valerian in the evening. Ginkgo, astragalus plus green tea mid morning. I don't use black cohosh as mixed views on if this affect testosterone or not. A green light for women though.
Thanks to all posting other teas. Loquat grows wild all over Bermuda yet most walk past it...a few buy it in a Chinese formula to strengthen the lungs...go figure. Curious on guava leaf..excitatory or calming?
Had no idea about white sapote either...or another one growing wild here: Surinam cherry.
Here is the study. Note while yeast do share some genetic pathways with people, obviously we are very different. White willow bark increased their lifespan 369%...people won't get anything close to that. For the science lovers, important to note each herb works a unique genetic pathway.
https://biofoundations.org/delaying-chronological-aging-yeast-saccharomyces-cerevisiae-six-plant-extracts/
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Could people explain how they make tea out of these various leaves? buddy roo mentions drying them . . . does everyone here dry the leaves to make tea, or are they ever used fresh? Thanks!
I've used surinam cherry, cinammon, and loquat leaves fresh, and think they are better fresh. I think main reason for drying is for long term storage.
In general, yes, fresh leaves provide greater potency. Dried leaves remain good (no storage pun intended) if that is all that is available.
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White sapote leaf tea:
http://www.herbalsafety.utep.edu/herbal-fact-sheets/white-zapote/ (http://www.herbalsafety.utep.edu/herbal-fact-sheets/white-zapote/)
Surinam Cherry
http://www.tophealthremedies.com/15-amazing-health-benefits-of-surinam-cherries/ (http://www.tophealthremedies.com/15-amazing-health-benefits-of-surinam-cherries/)
Guava
http://healthyeating.sfgate.com/health-benefits-guava-leaf-tea-3347.html (http://healthyeating.sfgate.com/health-benefits-guava-leaf-tea-3347.html)
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Thanks Future, time to place an order on Amazon!
Simon
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This is my new favorite thread. Thanks everyone!
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Thanks Future, time to place an order on Amazon!
Simon
Hi Simon, what kind if tea you thinking of?? i am going to be trimming off a bunch of new growth from my white sapote tree real soon if you would like to try some. Regards Patrick
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P incarnata grows everywhere here. I love the fall fruits but never tried leaves in tea. Smoked a few awhile back but nothing special to report from that. ;D
My tea favorite from yard specimens is Persimmon leaf. I prefer the fall leaves that have lost chlorophyll and appear reddish orange but young new leaves that have been dried aren't too bad with honey to sweeten. It is also quite healthy if you care to search it up.
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Passion fruit flowers can also be used for tea (dried or fresh) - and they contain some MAOI alkaloids (monoamine oxide inhibitor). MAOI's are used as a pharmaceutical anti-depressant (although these are less common these days vs SSRIs). Passion flower can also be used augment the effect of some psychedelics, since they contain MAOIs.
Be aware that MAOI's should not be consumed with certain foods (cured meats, strong cheeses, etc.)
So, I'm trying this for the first time tonight. Observational notes:
1) Raw leaf: too strong for me to eat in a salad or whatnot. Maybe cooked in some dishes with other strong flavours.
2) Tea taste (I used 5 large P. edulis leaves in an oversized coffee mug of near-boiling water): the first taste I got was just "leaf". Nothing else. Kind of unappealing, but not distasteful... just uninteresting. However, the more I've been drinking it the more I've been picking up this subtle mint flavour that wasn't there in the beginning.
3) Either this was some crazy timing, or maybe I'm having a very strong psychosomatic effect..... OR, this stuff does exactly what it says on the tin. I was only a quarter of the way into the mug when I noticed that I felt sleepy. And not "normal sleepy"; but like something was actively dragging my awakeness level down. Yet not of the type of effect to cause an imminent "fall asleep at my computer" effect. I'll just put it this way, I don't think I'll have any trouble falling asleep tonight. ;) I also have this sort of heavy and/or tingly effect around my head.... maybe a very tiny bit of that feeling you get when you've had skin numbed for a medical procedure. But again, not a strong feeling like that.
I definitely have to try this again to see if it's a coincidence or if this is a consistently reproduceble effect. But so far, I have to say that I'm believing these reports.
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Passion fruit flowers can also be used for tea (dried or fresh) - and they contain some MAOI alkaloids (monoamine oxide inhibitor). MAOI's are used as a pharmaceutical anti-depressant (although these are less common these days vs SSRIs). Passion flower can also be used augment the effect of some psychedelics, since they contain MAOIs.
Be aware that MAOI's should not be consumed with certain foods (cured meats, strong cheeses, etc.)
yeah, i was going to mention that.
the active principle in Passiflora is an MAOI,
taken in fairly high amounts, you should keep a close eye on your diet.
Coffee and Cacao (chocolate), cheeses, red wine, cured meats, and Yeast
are some of the stronger ones to avoid if i remember correctly.
also, do not mix if taking St. John's wort.
there is a list on the links below.
MAOIs
An enzyme called monoamine oxidase is involved in removing the neurotransmitters norepinephrine, serotonin and dopamine from the brain. MAOIs prevent this from happening, which makes more of these brain chemicals available to effect changes in both cells and circuits that have been impacted by depression.
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/depression/in-depth/maois/art-20043992 (https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/depression/in-depth/maois/art-20043992)
"Monoamine Oxidase Inhibitors (MAOIs) are drugs used to treat depression, high blood pressure, and other medical conditions. If you are taking MAOIs, you will follow a special diet.
A side effect of this type of medicine is that a normally harmless substance in food, tyramine (TY-ra-meen), is not broken down by the body.
High levels of tyramine can cause blood vessels to narrow. This can lead to very high blood pressure, a severe headache, and possibly bleeding.
To avoid these serious side effects, you should avoid certain foods or eat them only in small amounts."
http://www.upmc.com/patients-visitors/education/nutrition/pages/maoi-diet-facts.aspx (http://www.upmc.com/patients-visitors/education/nutrition/pages/maoi-diet-facts.aspx)
Low-Tyramine Diet for Migraine
http://www.headaches.org/2007/10/25/low-tyramine-diet-for-migraine/ (http://www.headaches.org/2007/10/25/low-tyramine-diet-for-migraine/)
Serotonin syndrome.
Rarely, an MAOI can cause dangerously high levels of serotonin, known as serotonin syndrome.
It most often occurs when two medications that raise serotonin are combined.
These include other antidepressants, certain pain or headache medications,
https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/depression/in-depth/maois/art-20043992?pg=2 (https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/depression/in-depth/maois/art-20043992?pg=2)
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Passiflora incarnata is the Tennessee state wildflower - but I grow it in my garden as a fruit crop. Excellent fruit when allowed to drop naturally.
I’ve found the leaves to be a little strong, as some have reported, so I prefer to make times out of the flowers, either fresh or dried. I find 2-3 flowers in 8 ounces of boiling water, steeped 10-15 minutes can have a moderate to high soporific effect. However, for me it seems it takes a
Couple of hours or more to really kick in. When taken immediately before bed, I’ve felt groggy in the morning.
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Not sure of the levels of MAOI in passiflora, but doubt most people would have a problem unless they are taking certain medications. Dietary interactions with MAOI pharmaceuticals tend to be more intense than with natural food sources. I have consumed plenty of passionfruit and cacao at the same time, along with other mixtures. However, mixing MAOI meds with certain psychiatric meds can be deadly. Probably best to consult a physician just to be sure.
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Lets add a couple more-
Mullein tea- http://www.organicauthority.com/health/mullein-herbal-tea.html (http://www.organicauthority.com/health/mullein-herbal-tea.html)
Mulberry tea- https://www.healthbenefitstimes.com/health-benefits-of-mulberry-tea/ (https://www.healthbenefitstimes.com/health-benefits-of-mulberry-tea/)
Soursop tea- https://www.organicfacts.net/health-benefits/herbs-and-spices/soursop-tea.html (https://www.organicfacts.net/health-benefits/herbs-and-spices/soursop-tea.html)
Tried all these and they work wonders
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lets not forget the AVOCADO LEAF TEA PS you want to make sure that the leaves are from a pure mexican variety
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I grew up in northern Brazil, where we occasionally drank Avocado-leaf tea, which was delicious, with a licorice-type flavor. Some times we made it together with Lemon Grass.
But the two or three times I tried to make Avocado-leaf tea here in Florida, it was nasty. Different varieties, I guess. Also I have read that Avocado leaves here in Florida are considered toxic--- which they sure tasted like.
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I think it's only the Mexican type avocados that have the nice anise taste? The Guatemalan and West Indies types are not good to eat? Not sure what happens with the hybrids?
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Also tea from Noni leaves apparently has a mild niceflavor and the same benefits than drinking the fruit juice...
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Also tea from Noni leaves apparently has a mild niceflavor and the same benefits than drinking the fruit juice...
Young noni leaves are edible. There is a Thai restaurant here that makes a salad with noni leaves. I found them tasty but a bit tough to chew.
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Also tea from Noni leaves apparently has a mild niceflavor and the same benefits than drinking the fruit juice...
Young noni leaves are edible. There is a Thai restaurant here that makes a salad with noni leaves. I found them tasty but a bit tough to chew.
That's nice to know Oscar! I'll try to stir fry them,I'll let you know the results...
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This is some good info as I have sleeping problems. This is partly why I work the night shift. Working night shift takes a toll on my relationship though. Even my days off I have a hard time sleeping at night and struggle staying up during the day spending time with the family. Where are you guys finding passion fruit at? I can't find any at my local stores to take the seeds and plant. Maybe it's not the right season?
Thangbom
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This is some good info as I have sleeping problems. This is partly why I work the night shift. Working night shift takes a toll on my relationship though. Even my days off I have a hard time sleeping at night and struggle staying up during the day spending time with the family. Where are you guys finding passion fruit at? I can't find any at my local stores to take the seeds and plant. Maybe it's not the right season?
Thangbom
Wholefoods usually carry them. If not now, in the summer. Night shift does take a toll on health too. Circadian rhythms link via food and light levels all the way through mitochondria to DNA, genetic expressions. There are lots of good podcasts around on sleep science...far more insight than mainstream medicine generally provides.
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This is some good info as I have sleeping problems. This is partly why I work the night shift. Working night shift takes a toll on my relationship though. Even my days off I have a hard time sleeping at night and struggle staying up during the day spending time with the family. Where are you guys finding passion fruit at? I can't find any at my local stores to take the seeds and plant. Maybe it's not the right season?
Thangbom
Check your PMs. Cheers!
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Wholefoods usually carry them. If not now, in the summer. Night shift does take a toll on health too. Circadian rhythms link via food and light levels all the way through mitochondria to DNA, genetic expressions. There are lots of good podcasts around on sleep science...far more insight than mainstream medicine generally provides.
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Oh I hear you. I think I'm more of an evening person then a night or morning person. 12hr shifts and a stressful job is not good for the body, or mind. Ohh well, it is what it is for now.
Thangbom
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Could people explain how they make tea out of these various leaves? buddy roo mentions drying them . . . does everyone here dry the leaves to make tea, or are they ever used fresh? Thanks!
I've used surinam cherry, cinammon, and loquat leaves fresh, and think they are better fresh. I think main reason for drying is for long term storage.
Bermuda had a fairly calm, fairly dry winter this year. Loquats have set fruit across the country like crazy. Surinam cherry flowers are also going ballistic. Even mango trees are flowering (not mine though). I harvested some pristine loquats leaf today and have some on the stove now...white sapote leaf is next.
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White sapote is in citrus family, rutaceae. Would guess citrus leaves are good in tea, although i've never tried. Do use tangerine peel in my tea. Adds very nice taste. Also use kaffir lime leaves in cooking. Curry leaf, also in citrus family probably would be good in tea.
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Add mango leaf to the list
http://www.beautyepic.com/benefits-of-mango-leaves (http://www.beautyepic.com/benefits-of-mango-leaves)
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Add mango leaf to the list
http://www.beautyepic.com/benefits-of-mango-leaves (http://www.beautyepic.com/benefits-of-mango-leaves)
Have you ever tried it? How does it taste?
I bet almost every tree can be found to have some medicinal use or other if properly studied, and properly applied.
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Add mango leaf to the list
http://www.beautyepic.com/benefits-of-mango-leaves (http://www.beautyepic.com/benefits-of-mango-leaves)
Have you ever tried it? How does it taste?
I bet almost every tree can be found to have some medicinal use or other if properly studied, and properly applied.
Have not tried this yet. A colleague told me about it today. He swears several people got out of control blood sugar down. I know several people with such issues (western diet, not the absence of mango leaf is the issue...) so took note. Guava and mango leaf tea coming next. We are going through loquat leaf tea fast. My weekly batch is lasting a mere 2-3 days.
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3) Either this was some crazy timing, or maybe I'm having a very strong psychosomatic effect..... OR, this stuff does exactly what it says on the tin. I was only a quarter of the way into the mug when I noticed that I felt sleepy. And not "normal sleepy"; but like something was actively dragging my awakeness level down.
That sounds almost scary! If anyone here reads Robin Hobb, "A leaf to sleep, two to dull pain, three for a merciful grave," although that was written for the mythical "carryme" herb/poison.
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Some people are ultra sensitive. Others can have allergic reactions. So first time trying any of these teas it's good to make a very weak diffusion.
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Regarding guava leaf tea, is it ok to use the leaves which became red from cold during winter? did you try to make tea out of them?
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So my father has suffered from insomnia for a very long time and was very skeptical about the passion fruit leaf tea. He often had to take tranquilizers to help him go to sleep and stay asleep. He is a retired doctor and does not believe in homeopathic and herbal medicine. That being said, we made him try the tea. 3 fresh leaves steeped for 15 minutes and drank an hour before bed. It worked so well for him that now he will not go to bed without drinking it. He has been drinking it every night for almost 2 month and swears by it. So thanks Karenrei and everyone else for the very helpful post :)
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Awesome! I just picked one of these plants up, I can't wait to try this out. My wife can't sleep some nights and marijuana helps her sometimes but I'm down for a cheaper alternative!
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So my father has suffered from insomnia for a very long time and was very skeptical about the passion fruit leaf tea. He often had to take tranquilizers to help him go to sleep and stay asleep. He is a retired doctor and does not believe in homeopathic and herbal medicine. That being said, we made him try the tea. 3 fresh leaves steeped for 15 minutes and drank an hour before bed. It worked so well for him that now he will not go to bed without drinking it. He has been drinking it every night for almost 2 month and swears by it. So thanks Karenrei and everyone else for the very helpful post :)
If it convinced a skeptical doctor then we know it's the real deal.
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WHITE SAPOTE LEAF TEA, i decided to try this on my wife as she has high blood pressure but first i bought a blood pressure monitor and checked her for 5 weeks average was 153/86 she drinks 1 coffee cup full each night before bed (yes it does help you sleep more restfully ) it has now been 6 months and her average for the last 5 weeks is 132/72 so yes i can say for sure this works. Regards Patrick
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I realize it has been mentioned already in this thread, but it bears mentioning again.
The active drug compound in Passiflora is Harman(/l). The compound acts as an MAOI.
This means that if you use the Harmal for its drug properties you must consider the consequences, as doctors do not prescribe MAOI type medications unless the benefits outweigh the risks.
If you eat foods which are made of aged protein such as dry aged steak, cheese, soy sauce, cup soups, cold cuts, chocolate, or generally any food which has a 'savory'/'umami' taste you should be prepared to forego all of them for the normally non-toxic monoamines in the foods become potentially quite toxic when Harmal alkaloids are consumed.
The main worry is a hypertensive crisis, splitting migraine, and a trip to the ER.
The compound is in no way innocuous, so bear that in mind when pursuing a regimen.
FWIIW, the native tribes who used the Passiflora for its effects did not consume aged protein as a staple of their diet.
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Oolie, Can you share sources for this information?
pemmican, a Native American food, I would consider an aged protein.
From Wikipedia: “Traditionally, pemmican was prepared from the lean meat of large game such as bison, elk, deer, or moose. The meat was cut in thin slices and dried, either over a slow fire or in the hot sun until it was hard and brittle. . . The resulting mixture was then packed into rawhide bags for storage. It can be stored for a maximum of 10 years.“
Certainly caution should always be exercised when taking any medicinal substance, herbal or Otherwise