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Here is what I did. Several years ago I planted two M lemons on the N side of my home. In the bald a-- open with no windbreak of any sort. They are ever blooming/bearing as M lemons do. I threw a blanket haphazardly over them when they were young on freezing nights. They are grown trees now and I do nothing except fertilize and keep the bugs at bay. They suffer a little leaf damage on very cold nights (16/18 degrees) but they come back strong and bear a sustained crop of lemons. I have learned to plant cuttings of M lemon & grow tbem on their own roots. The roots are survivors...regardless of cold. Never grafted M lemon in the last. 8 or 7 years. This might work for others up N of me. Just what I do.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Rooting Cuttings Without Leaves?
« on: June 03, 2019, 07:18:45 AM »
I have always left half a leaf on cuttings that I root. The cutting needs to continue with its process but in a reduced manner. I have stuck a plump budstick in the propagating medium and it has popped and grown
 I guess my answer would be yes. Good conditions, good plump budstick....success.

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As far as lemons I can see a 16 degree survival...if the rootstock is poncirus....if environment was right and we are not speaking of sustained 16 degrees
 M Lemon on poncirus is probably as cold hardy as lemon gets....and it usually does not do well at 16 degrees suztained without cold protection. It will survive but I feel that is a ways from (cold hardy).

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Citrus Buy, Sell, & Trade / Wanted bearing or blooming flying dragon
« on: June 02, 2019, 01:11:14 PM »

Citrus friend desires a blooming or bearing flying dragon. All I have are small and immature. Anybody got one?

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Butterflies...
« on: June 02, 2019, 09:10:54 AM »
Dont be sorry. Everyone is entitled to and free to state their opinion. I respect the opinion other folks. I wish natural predation would do the job for me. If it would I would be glad to let nature take is course. Mean as mother nature is at times....she needs a little help on occasion
😉.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Butterflies...
« on: June 02, 2019, 08:34:36 AM »
It is good that you are ecology minded. I also understand the impact of using chemical means to control pest. Lets face facts. Natural predators are in short supply for some pest. Natural predation is slow and ineffective lots of the time. The ugly catipillars are very fast when they ruin a tree. I want to stop them immediatly....and natural predation will not do it. Therefore I opt to destroy them chemically. Just think...if everhone destroyed them we would soon be rid of this pest.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Tree Dieback??
« on: June 02, 2019, 02:51:48 AM »
https://arcosalightweight.com I am lucky in that the huge production facility is close to me. They load railcars with this and I am able toload a pickup truck with the spillage with their blessing.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Tree Dieback??
« on: June 01, 2019, 08:36:32 PM »
Here is what I use:
70% Expert garden soil...get it at Walmart
15% sharp sand...Home Depot (builders sand)
15% light weight agate....fired clay..a lightweight, porous filler.
This works for me.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Butterflies...
« on: June 01, 2019, 06:56:16 PM »
The eggs are laid on the new growth of citrus. Imagine of having a hundred trees with new cleft and bud grafts just starting to pop and finding that the nasty catapillars have eaten all the new growth. Enough to cause me to wage war on them in any manner possible. I hand destroy eggs when I find them and keep my citrus sprayed with chemical killer. I do not like my hard work destroyed by a bug I can control.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Tree Dieback??
« on: June 01, 2019, 05:18:46 PM »
I am venture that you have a saturated soil problem...and I surmise that is from too much water. I would dig and look at the bottom of my roots to see if they are good healthy growing roots. If that is not the case I would probably wash, root prune and repot with new soil. I dont know where you got the trees from but I would doubt that you have anything else that is drastic going on. I use a good draining soil mix and I water until water runs from the weep holes. Water slowly.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Tree Dieback??
« on: June 01, 2019, 12:12:47 PM »
Nutrient deficiencies is what I think. What are you using for soil. What and when are you fertilizing with? Could be a lot of reasons. Too much water will make leaves turn yellow and drop. Tell me details and I can make an educated guess at the problem.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Butterflies...
« on: May 31, 2019, 07:26:20 PM »
And I will help you to lower the population. They will seriously damage your citrus trees. Yea malithion.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: PT seedlings growth rate
« on: May 30, 2019, 06:51:33 PM »
Most of my rootstock is soil in containers. The exception is a 60' row of poncirus that I budded this year. I do not use a conditioner for rootstock. Poncirus likes dirt....dirt of many kinds. I use the Mississippi delta sandy alluvial  gumbo) that occurs naturally here. I have no problems with it and my rootstock is green and healthy. When I containerize a citrus that will live much life in that container I go to 60% Expert garden soil (Walmart) 15% sharp sand & 15%light weight aggate. I take care to fertilize and water well an it works for me.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Citrus worth planting?
« on: May 30, 2019, 10:20:45 AM »
It is rampant in Florida now and sure to spread. Hence the quarantine....no citrus/related in or out of FL.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Citrus worth planting?
« on: May 30, 2019, 09:35:50 AM »
I can not forsee a remedy for hlb appearing magically in the next near future. You can do as I do. Love your citrus, take good care of it, use only "clean" wood to graft with and hope for a defeat of greening. There will be a fix......

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: PT seedlings growth rate
« on: May 30, 2019, 06:22:03 AM »
I have done the experiment you speak of....the end result was: The greenhouse plants failed to keep up with the ground planted rootstock. Both were given the same level of care. For some reason the mother earth environment is what PT wants....and....it seems that in ground plants are greener, bark slips easier, take percentage is near 100%. Drawback is you gotta get down on the ground to bud...

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Top worked poncirus
« on: May 29, 2019, 12:40:31 PM »
I did. Agree with you pokan is worthy to be among the best. Love it.

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Citrus General Discussion / Top worked poncirus
« on: May 29, 2019, 09:05:32 AM »
Top worked. Ponkin, owari and brown select. Rootstock is 7 years old.


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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Butterflies...
« on: May 28, 2019, 07:32:41 PM »
Beautiful as they are I care for my citrus more than the ugly, destructive caterpillar stage of their development. Malithion puts a quick end to them.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Butterflies...
« on: May 27, 2019, 08:09:07 PM »
Yes and they are putting eggs on all new flush right now.......Malithion kills em

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: clay soil amendments?
« on: May 26, 2019, 11:21:41 AM »
I promise that poncirus as a rootstock will thrive in clay soil. I have used it for years and all of my trees are on it. It is my rootstock. My only gripe is that it is a slow grower...but worth the wait in LA.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Interesting...
« on: May 26, 2019, 11:15:49 AM »
Very strange. Never seen one.

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Cold Hardy Citrus / Re: Variegated sour orange seedlings.
« on: May 25, 2019, 05:12:28 PM »
I have tried to cleft on varigated rootstock.....NO vari passed to grafts.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: clay soil amendments?
« on: May 25, 2019, 05:10:02 PM »
Plant the trees in the soil you have. Use PT/FD for your rootstock and they will thrive with good care. Clay soil is not a bad thing....lots of citrus do well on it.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: What is eating my trees?
« on: May 25, 2019, 12:47:19 PM »
Never been done in by a rat. Gotta see it.

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