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Nathalie,

Here in Brazil use up some techniques for propagating cuttings Syzygum samarangense . I believe you may have some success with this. Basically you must proceed as follows:

Cut ripe cuttings (with growth already defined) and always using apical cuttings, growth results from the last branch. The cuttings should be about 15 cm and it should be left at the cutting a unique pair of leaves.

To Syzygium  samarangense has not used hormones for rooting cuttings, but maybe for other species is necessary to use something around 100mg / L of IBA immersion for about 12h. Perhaps it is more prudent to try to treat part of cuttings with hormone and other party without hormone ...


After this, the cuttings are placed in vermiculite (10cm stake should be buried) and maintained under intermittent mist, and with 50% shade.
In your case, in the absence of vermiculite and conditions without misting, perhaps viable plant the cuttings in a pot filled with milled coconut fiber and seal the entire top of the pot with a transparent plastic. The plastic must be completely sealed with the pot so there is no loss of water through transpiration, and this will keep the cutting alive for a long time, until she start to take root

Keep the substrate always well watered, and always take care that the drain holes do not get clogged.

The time it takes to root the cuttings varies between 60 and 90 days, and the survival rate is about 60%.

Nathalie, I believe this can help you with these fantastic species Syzygiuns. Any questions please ask me!


Note  - Have you ever thought about making grafting  these materials on Syzygium malaccensis?

Note 2 - Sorry the bad english ..... I need to improve a lot with this

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Huertas, this is a picture with two varieties of Myrciaria jaboticaba the center, and two varieties of Myrciaria coronata on the sides.

Usually the Myrciaria coronata leaves are larger and  long compared to Myrciaria jaboticaba.


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Roy, is there any chance for this to be Cordia?

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Huertas, this looks like Myrciaria coronata. The leaves have a strong resemblance to this, but there are some varieties of Myrciaria cauliflora which also has similar leaves .... if you get pictures of the fruit is easier to identify

Sabara is certainly not

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Please ID this fruit
« on: July 28, 2014, 11:49:40 AM »
looks Davidsonia

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Hancornia speciosa
« on: July 27, 2014, 08:27:46 PM »
Ed, there are no names for mangaba varieties , are simply called "mangaba do cerrado" and "mangaba da restinga".

the tree of mangaba cerrado is higher, the fruit has a light green color, with either reddish streak. The taste of the two types are very similar ... both are delicious!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Hancornia speciosa
« on: July 27, 2014, 07:35:15 PM »
Good point Adam!

Beautiful plants Ed! Your plants look a lot like the variety that grows in the cerrado. These are a bit easier to grow than native varieties in Brazilian Restinga

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Hancornia speciosa
« on: July 27, 2014, 01:23:02 PM »
Adam, if the soil has poor drainage, and / or the pH is quite high, so better to keep it in a pot.

I've seen several trees growing in different places and different conditions such as sandy soils, very stony soils, clayey soils, abundant rainfall regions .... but never in conditions of poor drainage or too high pH. This  conditions perishes be lethal to plants.

To keep them in a pot for many years, I think the secret is to use a very large pot with sandy soil. I believe this will be a big challenge! ;)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Hancornia speciosa
« on: July 27, 2014, 12:15:16 PM »
Friends, mangaba erally is a very very good fruit, the initial growth is difficult, but once they are stabilized in the soil, the growth is much easier, and the plants are very resistant when they are adults.

Here I keep them growing in a pot for a short time, the seedlings should be with partial shade (50%), always use  drained substrate (sandy soil + 30% organic soil) Never use limestone. The newly germinated seedlings are very sensitive to soil fungi. These plants detest live in a pot for a long time, so they can be washed for planting in soil about 20 cm.

Even being hard to grow this fruit is worth it!

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Kgknight, this species grows in a small area of eastern Brazil (state of Espirito santo). Most plants are found in the wild, and we saw very few plants (mostly young) are found in cultivation. I have not tasted the flavor of the fruit, but people who have proven, said to be sweet, agreeable flavor and velvety skin.

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Here is a new picture showing the two species next to each other. Peluda de  Alagoas  the left, and right the real Myrciaria spirito santenssis


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Myrciaria trunciflora
« on: July 22, 2014, 05:39:25 AM »
Myrciaria coronata usually take longer to bear fruit. Some varieties can spend 20 years to bear fruit. Myrciaria truciflora varies greatly, and if they are irrigated and ideal soil can bear fruit around 6 or 7 years depending on the variety.
Scarlet is quite fast, taking fruit in about 4 years. Myrciaria grandifolia are usually 10 or more years.

To grafted plants, including M. coronata, the time to fruiting varies between 5 to 7 years

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ASaffron, I'm sorry but I do not have photos of the fruits now ... all these plants are still small (1 meter for smaller) and  not produce fruit now. Maybe I can get some fruits at the end of the year, produced from other distant trees here. If I get I will send you some seeds. Besides these, there are other 4 unidentified species of jabs, growing here.

Mike, thanks for the compliments. I just planting jabs a couple of years, and during this period I dedicated myself to achieve the greatest possible number of types and also much knowledge about jabs

Huertas, the differences cited by Asaffron are perfect, and this week I will post another picture, with two varieties, one next to each other for a better view

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Friends, here I have a picture where you can compare the leaves of both species. The real M. spirito santenssis is the second leaf (left to right). The peluda de  Alagoas (Myrciaria sp) is the fourth leaf.
The other leaves are Peluda do Jequitinhonha (Myrciaria sp), the Peluda do  mucuri (Myrciaria sp) and variegated Myrciaria cauliflora

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Can someone ID this fruit tree???
« on: July 18, 2014, 05:46:04 AM »
Jf, the flowers resemble a Syzygium .. any chance for this?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Plant ID
« on: July 18, 2014, 05:40:17 AM »
Aleurites mollucana?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Please, help me to idenfy this plant
« on: July 18, 2014, 05:34:40 AM »
Cassio, this is   probably Nicandra physaloides. It is an invasive plant and the fruits are not edible.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tree ID
« on: July 16, 2014, 08:16:47 PM »
looks Mimusops commersonii

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