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Tropical Fruit => Tropical Fruit Discussion => Topic started by: chiwoowa9 on June 12, 2015, 04:41:10 PM
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Hello. Please i.d. this Mystery Fruit tree.
This tree is approx 20-25' tall. Willow-like in drooping branch habit. 10-12" diameter trunk very gray and fissured/rough bark. Loads of 3" long by 2.5" diameter fruits. Single pit very cherry-like, but large. Fruit edible but not all that tasty. Skin smooth, golden yellow and fruit deteriorates quickly. Some fruits look very quince-like on their ends, and not like any eugenia I've ever seen. Photos online have led me to think this may be some variety of Eugenia.
Lots of opinions here, but even the City Arborist was wrong in his i.d. He said Plinia edulis and that can't be correct. Please help. Thank you.
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Welcome to the forum!
Nevermind, you fixed the photos :)
I'm not knowledgeable enough to tell what it is. Not pilina edulis, pretty sure.
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i thought it was definitely Eugenia pyriformis...but the bark looks unusual!
definitely a Eugenia!
definitely want seeds! (I got DIBBZ!) ;D
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Tell me where to mail the seeds and I will send you a few.
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Looks cool. What does it taste like?
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In the book called Santa Barbara Trees, by Will Beittel a similar tree is identified as Myrciaria edulis, syn. Eugenia edulis. It was planted by Dr. Franceschi above Franceschi park, being about 25 ft tall with willow like apparance created by slender evergreen leaves and pendulous branches. It has edible apricot-sized fruit. Photo looks like the tree you cited.
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How bad do you want seeds Adam?
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In the book called Santa Barbara Trees, by Will Beittel a similar tree is identified as Myrciaria edulis, syn. Eugenia edulis. It was planted by Dr. Franceschi above Franceschi park, being about 25 ft tall with willow like apparance created by slender evergreen leaves and pendulous branches. It has edible apricot-sized fruit. Photo looks like the tree you cited.
that sounds like a better guess!
I'd love to get at least 20 seeds!
but I've already asked about 3 people in the area for seeds!!! LOL...but yes, please, someone make it happen!
(here we have a tree that looks very similar..i think it used to be a synonym for E. edulis....it's called Eugenia myrcianthes....it looks just like this tree in CA, but the leaves are fuzzier, the branches are not weeping...and the fruits are more hollow, less juicy..and taste downright weird)
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btw...it is definitely not a myrciaria!
it is a eugenia!
(maybe it is another form of E. myrcianthes? I can't find much info on the name E. eduils...maybe that name is antiquated? no longer used?)
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I'd say that is a hundred dollar tree. Does it really make hundred dollar bills? If so i want it! ;)
I saw this tree at Fullerton arboretum in southern California, where they have it labeled under old name: Hexachlamys edulis. The fruit is native to Argentina and there it is called Ubajay. I heard it is not so great, and has a funny smell? But i've never tried it. I have some growing but haven't fruited yet. I think this is a tree that Luc fruited and pulled out because he didn't like the fruit? How does your fruit taste chiwoowa9? Do you like them?
Adam, Eugenia edulis is either a synonym for Eugenia myrcianthes or Plinia edulis:
http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/search?q=eugenia+edulis (http://www.theplantlist.org/tpl1.1/search?q=eugenia+edulis)
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so now we wait to hear some reports of the fruit quality?
still would take some seeds to plant...it looks much better than the ones we have here...(which most likely is the same species)
Oscar, as you already know i'm sure...
Hexachlamys edulis is a synonym for Eugenia myrcianthes.
and there have been threads about this already, where there seems to be at least two forms, one is superior to the other...I'm assuming this is it!
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Could be an antiquated classification as Dr. Franceschi planted over 1000 different kinds of seeds from all over the world in 1895 in Santa Barbara. Quite a guy! OK Adam, you're covered....let me know otherwise as I am in Santa Barbara frequently (60 miles away).
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http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=1396.msg18832#msg18832 (http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=1396.msg18832#msg18832)
another post with E. myrcianthes...more like the ones I've seen in FL
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here is the best thread I've found so far, from my buddy Miguel in Portugal
http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=5839.msg78151#msg78151 (http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=5839.msg78151#msg78151)
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Could be an antiquated classification as Dr. Franceschi planted over 1000 different kinds of seeds from all over the world in 1895 in Santa Barbara. Quite a guy! OK Adam, you're covered....let me know otherwise as I am in Santa Barbara frequently (60 miles away).
Did Dr. Franceschi plant them in one area, or are they spread all over Santa Barbara?
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So,, this tree is Eugenia myricanthes? leaves look thinner that the tree (bush) I have but sure hope when mine fruits it taste like the one Miguel, has :P ;) 8)
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here is the best thread I've found so far, from my buddy Miguel in Portugal
http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=5839.msg78151#msg78151 (http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=5839.msg78151#msg78151)
Thanks Adam for references to the old threads. It was nice to read Miguel's old post with good descriptions and photos. The tree i saw in Fullerton had small and slender leaves, more like the one in question from Santa Barbara. This is the type that Miguel says has the strong garlic like smell. I'm glad to hear some other types exist with better taste. Gives me more reason to plant some in the ground. BTW mine came from different source than others mentioned, so maybe will turn out different?
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Oscar,
i'm not sure if this tree in Ca is the garlicky type! based on some of the descriptions i've read from those who've tasted it, it sounds like a decent fruit...but the aroma isn't something that Americans will typically take a liking to immediately.
I'd like to plant it just to see how it performs here...being that it seems tolerant of wet feet, and low temps...and it fruits up a storm! and it's a beautiful tree!
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This is not a fruit I would recommend, and I consider myself a fruit-aholic. I love trying new fruits. This particular one is juicy and only a little bit sweet. I would call it bland. It really has no allure at all, in its taste. The texture reminded me of biting into a cantaloupe melon. After sampling two different fruits off this tree, taking a small bite from each one, I had no desire whatsoever to finish eating either one. Just not all that much in the way of taste and even reminded me a bit of how one's taste buds react to eating certain types of mushrooms: the kind of mushrooms deemed edible, but not ones you'd really want on your plate. I use the mushroom comparison because I think this fruit is actually kind of off-putting to the palate. Hard to describe, but almost like it isn't really edible, if that makes sense.
After reading all the replies to my post and looking online at many images, I am certain this is not E. myrcianthes. Perhaps it is some antiquated classification.
I am more than happy to mail seeds to anyone who wants them. You pay the postage and I will make sure you get the seeds.
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Oscar,
i'm not sure if this tree in Ca is the garlicky type! based on some of the descriptions i've read from those who've tasted it, it sounds like a decent fruit...but the aroma isn't something that Americans will typically take a liking to immediately.
I'd like to plant it just to see how it performs here...being that it seems tolerant of wet feet, and low temps...and it fruits up a storm! and it's a beautiful tree!
Sounds like she didn't like it at all: almost inedible. :o I think the one in Fullerton arboretum is of the same type, judging from small narrow leaves. Maybe you can make magic with it with your old miracle fruit trick? ;)
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Thanks for the info!
I swore I read on the original thread on edhat.com, that someone said it was sweet and delicious?
Read the link so u can see I'm not hallucinating
http://www.edhat.com/site/tidbit.cfm?nid=154202 (http://www.edhat.com/site/tidbit.cfm?nid=154202)
"Can anyone help us ID this interesting fruit? The large tree, currently surrounded by abundant dropped fruit, is on the corner of APS and Moreno. The fruit is not a kumquat, loquat or quince. Skin slightly fuzzy and tart, with same mouthfeel as a plum or nectarine. Fruit is fragrant and sweet, reminiscent of lychee/pear/nectarine? One or two medium sized stones/seeds. Irregular, ovoid fruit."
Oh well, it sounded nice at first, but now you talked me out of it!
Thanks for being honest
Lol
I still think it's most likely E. myrcianthes...
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100% certain it is a eugenia. 95% certain it is Eugenia myrcianthes. Go to the Fullerton arboretum, they have the same exact tree. You can match it up there. They have it labeled as Hexachlamys edulis, an old name of the same plant. I think at least 3 forum members have this plant: Luc, Miguel, Felipe, and maybe also Huertas? I wish they would chime in to confirm a positive ID.
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Hello Oscar. did you call for me?
No doubt for me!... it is definitely one Ubajai (Eugenia myrcianthes or Hexaclamys edulis) of the narrow leaf type, like the one I have here in Portugal... have you seen that even the fruit season match with mine... my pics of the fruits were also from beginning of June.
I love those fruits and they taste like the acid Uvaias to me, but definitely is a fruit that some will dislike.
I'm still waiting for fruits on the large/blueish leaf Ubajai type so not sure if I will like those fruits too???... But I definitely eat all the fruits from this narrow leaf type straight from the tree... and I remember one article from Uruguay where they teach how to prepare a desert or marmalade with these fruits.
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I'm still convinced that there are at least two different types of Ubajai... and this narrow leaf one should be the best for fruits... great find!
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Just found the article from Uruguay (in Spanish)
www.guayubira.org.uy/monte/Ubajai.pdf (http://www.guayubira.org.uy/monte/Ubajai.pdf)
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Hello Oscar. did you call for me?
No doubt for me!... it is definitely one Ubajai (Eugenia myrcianthes or Hexaclamys edulis) of the narrow leaf type, like the one I have here in Portugal... have you seen that even the fruit season match with mine... my pics of the fruits were also from beginning of June.
I love those fruits and they taste like the acid Uvaias to me, but definitely is a fruit that some will dislike.
I'm still waiting for fruits on the large/blueish leaf Ubajai type so not sure if I will like those fruits too???... But I definitely eat all the fruits from this narrow leaf type straight from the tree... and I remember one article from Uruguay where they teach how to prepare a desert or marmalade with these fruits.
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I'm still convinced that there are at least two different types of Ubajai... and this narrow leaf one should be the best for fruits... great find!
HAHA, glad you got my telepathic phone call. Thanks for giving positive ID. Now i have to go out and dig some holes and get those potted ubajais in the ground!
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Oscar, he planted seeds all over Santa Barbara, most have not survived due to neglect etc. However, there are still a number of rather exotic trees around the city thanks to Dr. Franceschi. It is fun to wander around in the parks collecting seeds of palms and other uncommon plants. By the way, the literature in the book cited says " This rare drought-resistant species should be planted more because of its edible, apricot-sized fruit, which in flavor equals or surpasses many of the other kinds of tropical fruits grown here."
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Oscar, he planted seeds all over Santa Barbara, most have not survived due to neglect etc. However, there are still a number of rather exotic trees around the city thanks to Dr. Franceschi. It is fun to wander around in the parks collecting seeds of palms and other uncommon plants. By the way, the literature in the book cited says " This rare drought-resistant species should be planted more because of its edible, apricot-sized fruit, which in flavor equals or surpasses many of the other kinds of tropical fruits grown here."
Thanks for sharing knowledge on Dr. Franceschi, Franceschi park and some of the early plantings around SB. I'll make a trip there the next time I pass through. Do you happen to know what day the good SB Farmers Market is off hand? Have a nice day.
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I would have a hard time naming a fruit that I really dislike, except this one.
It's hideous.
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Oscar, he planted seeds all over Santa Barbara, most have not survived due to neglect etc. However, there are still a number of rather exotic trees around the city thanks to Dr. Franceschi. It is fun to wander around in the parks collecting seeds of palms and other uncommon plants. By the way, the literature in the book cited says " This rare drought-resistant species should be planted more because of its edible, apricot-sized fruit, which in flavor equals or surpasses many of the other kinds of tropical fruits grown here."
Thanks for the info. I never heard of Franceschi before. Is he the one by any chance that planted that enormous Moreton Bay fig that is right next to the freeway?
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I would have a hard time naming a fruit that I really dislike, except this one.
It's hideous.
Hello Sergio,
didn't know you have one fruiting... is it the narrow or large leaf type?
I remember to have seen one of these trees on a Botanical garden in Lisbon some time ago... it was a big tree and it should have fruits right now.
Do you know this tree?
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The Moreton Bay Fig Tree is believed to be the largest Ficus macrophylla in the US of A. A seaman, visiting Santa Barbara In 1876, presented a seedling of an Australian Moreton Bay Fig tree to a local girl who planted it at 201 State Street.
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The Moreton Bay Fig Tree is believed to be the largest Ficus macrophylla in the US of A. A seaman, visiting Santa Barbara In 1876, presented a seedling of an Australian Moreton Bay Fig tree to a local girl who planted it at 201 State Street.
Thanks for the info. Didn't realize that tree is so old = 139 years old!
We have some very old trees here planted also around that time in a place called Foster's Garden in Honolulu. Recently renamed Honolulu Botanical Garden. It's right in downtown Honolulu and there are LOTS of massive trees, including some very old tropical fruit trees.
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It was me who asked for the i.d. and I am still not convinced this is E. myrcianthes. I am not kidding when I say that the fruits of this tree here in Santa Barbara are not enjoyable to eat. And I love all fruits. I will eat durian, if I can find a good one.
As for the question earlier about the Moreton Bay Fig here in SB: The Moreton Bay Fig Tree is believed to be the largest Ficus macrophylla in the US of A. A seaman, visiting Santa Barbara In 1876, presented a seedling of an Australian Moreton Bay Fig tree to a local girl who planted it at 201 State Street.
So, not planted by Franceschi.
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Is there a lag time on posts here? I tried to reply just now and don't see it.
I guess perhaps this is a variety of E. myrcianthes, although I am here to testify that the fruit of this Santa Barbara tree is not enjoyable to eat. And I will eat any and all kinds of fruits, if they're good----including durian.
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In answer to the question of whether it was Franceschi who planted the Moreton Bay Fig tree here in Santa Barbara:
The Moreton Bay Fig Tree is believed to be the largest Ficus macrophylla in the US of A. A seaman, visiting Santa Barbara In 1876, presented a seedling of an Australian Moreton Bay Fig tree to a local girl who planted it at 201 State Street.
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Thanks for the info!
I swore I read on the original thread on edhat.com, that someone said it was sweet and delicious?
Read the link so u can see I'm not hallucinating
http://www.edhat.com/site/tidbit.cfm?nid=154202 (http://www.edhat.com/site/tidbit.cfm?nid=154202)
"Can anyone help us ID this interesting fruit? The large tree, currently surrounded by abundant dropped fruit, is on the corner of APS and Moreno. The fruit is not a kumquat, loquat or quince. Skin slightly fuzzy and tart, with same mouthfeel as a plum or nectarine. Fruit is fragrant and sweet, reminiscent of lychee/pear/nectarine? One or two medium sized stones/seeds. Irregular, ovoid fruit."
Oh well, it sounded nice at first, but now you talked me out of it!
Thanks for being honest
Lol
I still think it's most likely E. myrcianthes...
Did u post the first report of the fruit on Edhat? In my quote above?
That description sounded more promising!?
I'm wondering Who wrote that?
It was me who asked for the i.d. and I am still not convinced this is E. myrcianthes. I am not kidding when I say that the fruits of this tree here in Santa Barbara are not enjoyable to eat. And I love all fruits. I will eat durian, if I can find a good one.
As for the question earlier about the Moreton Bay Fig here in SB: The Moreton Bay Fig Tree is believed to be the largest Ficus macrophylla in the US of A. A seaman, visiting Santa Barbara In 1876, presented a seedling of an Australian Moreton Bay Fig tree to a local girl who planted it at 201 State Street.
So, not planted by Franceschi.
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Is there a lag time on posts here? I tried to reply just now and don't see it.
I guess perhaps this is a variety of E. myrcianthes, although I am here to testify that the fruit of this Santa Barbara tree is not enjoyable to eat. And I will eat any and all kinds of fruits, if they're good----including durian.
Yes there can be a lag time for posting.
Are you reading all the posts? Doesn't seem like it. We've already discussed that there are at least 2 versions of Eugenia myrcianthes. One version of it some people find quite disagreeable. Look at this post: http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=16300.msg207478#msg207478 (http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=16300.msg207478#msg207478) Some people and literature also says it has a bad smell, similar to garlic.
What you have has been positively identified = Eugenia myrcianthes.
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It was not me who posted on Edhat, although it is because of that posting I contacted this group. As I wrote earlier, our City Arborist misidentified the tree as being Plinia edulis. Some of the photos are mine, as seen here and on Edhat. I am the one who used the $100 bill, as it was the only bill I had that didn't look all bedraggled. So---E. myrcianthes is the correct i.d.? I guess so.
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It was not me who posted on Edhat, although it is because of that posting I contacted this group. As I wrote earlier, our City Arborist misidentified the tree as being Plinia edulis. Some of the photos are mine, as seen here and on Edhat. I am the one who used the $100 bill, as it was the only bill I had that didn't look all bedraggled. So---E. myrcianthes is the correct i.d.? I guess so.
Lol yes, I called it a while ago... ;)
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Well, DER! Sorry for the multiple and replicant postings. New here and didn't get to page 2 (face palm squared). By the way, I have an excellent nose and noted nothing garlicky about this particular tree.
As I posted earlier, if anyone wants seeds, let me know.
And thank you to one and all for helping solve this mystery. Narrow-leaved E. myrcianthes it is. I will now go tell the original Edhat poster. Thank you everyone.
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It was not me who posted on Edhat, although it is because of that posting I contacted this group. As I wrote earlier, our City Arborist misidentified the tree as being Plinia edulis. Some of the photos are mine, as seen here and on Edhat. I am the one who used the $100 bill, as it was the only bill I had that didn't look all bedraggled. So---E. myrcianthes is the correct i.d.? I guess so.
It's no guess. It is correct. I have Plinia edulis trees. It doesn't look anything like that. Your city arborist is way off the mark. If you do a search in this forum for cambuca, the common name of Plinia edulis, you can see photos of the fruits and trees.
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Who's going to be the next contestant on the "what's this Eugenia show?"
That was a good episode!
author=chiwoowa9 link=topic=16300.msg207544#msg207544 date=1434237052]
Well, DER! Sorry for the multiple and replicant postings. New here and didn't get to page 2 (face palm squared). By the way, I have an excellent nose and noted nothing garlicky about this particular tree.
As I posted earlier, if anyone wants seeds, let me know.
And thank you to one and all for helping solve this mystery. Narrow-leaved E. myrcianthes it is. I will now go tell the original Edhat poster. Thank you everyone.
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More and, I think, better photos of that mystery tree. Please forgive me, if you think I'm being obtuse about this. After looking again at the tree this afternoon and tasting again of its fruit, I think it may be a hybrid of some sort. Look at the fruit shape and bark. Do these photos help with any better i.d. than E. myrcianthes?
(http://s21.postimg.cc/fb5sh6bsz/P6130009.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/fb5sh6bsz/)
(http://s21.postimg.cc/6l8pgbubn/P6130012.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/6l8pgbubn/)
(http://s21.postimg.cc/pz9jg0ls3/P6130015.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/pz9jg0ls3/)
(http://s21.postimg.cc/d1d2sodhf/P6130018.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/d1d2sodhf/)
(http://s21.postimg.cc/fb173fmf7/P6130019.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/fb173fmf7/)
(http://s21.postimg.cc/dyo3faedf/P6130021.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/dyo3faedf/)
(http://s21.postimg.cc/fzen04air/P6130024.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/fzen04air/)
(http://s21.postimg.cc/gh9sfz03n/P6130026.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/gh9sfz03n/)
(http://s21.postimg.cc/naa5c8qwz/P6130031.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/naa5c8qwz/)
(http://s21.postimg.cc/6nsl35xz7/P6130032.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/6nsl35xz7/)
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Those are nice pics!
That is a beautiful E. myrcianthes!
;D
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Have you tried eating the fruit at several stages of ripeness?
Fruits hanging from the tree and fruits on the ground?
I'm wondering if they develop a nasty flavor (like some other Eugenias) after they get past their prime, or laid on the ground for too long?
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One friend says he thinks the fruit is okay in taste. My boyfriend ate one and said it tasted okay at first. Then he said he wouldn't want to try more and that the fruit had "a sort of rotten after taste." And he had a fruit that was fully ripe (shaken off the tree).
Also: I must retract my earlier statement denying any kind of garlicky-ness. I had said there was no such taste or odor.
Much to my surprise, the fruit I carried home today in a plastic container (the lidded kind, in which strawberries are sold) and left inside my daypack on my kitchen table was, an hour later, exuding a strong odor extremely similar to garlic-----right through the container and the daypack. So, yes, there is definitely a garlic-like smell to these particular fruits.
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thanks for the report on flavor quality.
I was afraid of this!
I really do appreciate your wonderful photos, and honest description.
but for the last time, I will take a sledgehammer to the head of this deceased equine.
it's a Eugenia myrcianthes (aka Hexachlamys edulis, Eugenia eduils), one of several forms...and it is not a hybrid.
One friend says he thinks the fruit is okay in taste. My boyfriend ate one and said it tasted okay at first. Then he said he wouldn't want to try more and that the fruit had "a sort of rotten after taste." And he had a fruit that was fully ripe (shaken off the tree).
Also: I must retract my earlier statement denying any kind of garlicky-ness. I had said there was no such taste or odor.
Much to my surprise, the fruit I carried home today in a plastic container (the lidded kind, in which strawberries are sold) and left inside my daypack on my kitchen table was, an hour later, exuding a strong odor extremely similar to garlic-----right through the container and the daypack. So, yes, there is definitely a garlic-like smell to these particular fruits.
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I can't think of any other eugenia that smells like garlic. That pretty much nails it down.
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I would have a hard time naming a fruit that I really dislike, except this one.
It's hideous.
Hello Sergio,
didn't know you have one fruiting... is it the narrow or large leaf type?
I remember to have seen one of these trees on a Botanical garden in Lisbon some time ago... it was a big tree and it should have fruits right now.
Do you know this tree?
I'd say mine is a broad leaf type, probably from Helton, although I'm not sure.
It refused to die when I tried to remove it and planted an avocado next to it.
It does not even show the signs of chlorosis that pretty much every other Eugenia shows
with the soil I have...Grrr.
Don't recall noticing this species in the botanical garden. Which one do you mean, exactly?
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chiwoowa , is that on the street going up to Botanical Garden?Thanks for great pic's by the way ;) 8)
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I would have a hard time naming a fruit that I really dislike, except this one.
It's hideous.
Hello Sergio,
didn't know you have one fruiting... is it the narrow or large leaf type?
I remember to have seen one of these trees on a Botanical garden in Lisbon some time ago... it was a big tree and it should have fruits right now.
Do you know this tree?
I'd say mine is a broad leaf type, probably from Helton, although I'm not sure.
It refused to die when I tried to remove it and planted an avocado next to it.
It does not even show the signs of chlorosis that pretty much every other Eugenia shows
with the soil I have...Grrr.
Don't recall noticing this species in the botanical garden. Which one do you mean, exactly?
Hi Sergio
It was at the "Jardim Botânico Tropical", or "Jardim Museu Agricola Tropical"... the garden close to "Mosteiro dos Jerónimos"... As far as I remember it was close to the "duck's lake"
I visited it in October 2007 so no fruits then, but I remember the tree having a "Hexaclamis edulis" tag.... did not return there since then so no idea if it is still there
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I have the same tree in Chula Vista. I got my seedling from an old guy in Vista a few years ago. The fruit has the garlic smell that permeates through anything. I haven't put it in the ground, it is in a 25 gallon. I gave another seedling to Steve at Exoctica, I don't know if he has planted it. The old guy I got it from calls it "skunk fruit".
(http://s10.postimg.cc/7qx69p3c5/Eugenia_Uvalha2.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/7qx69p3c5/)
(http://s10.postimg.cc/o377zfhnp/Eugenia_Uvalha3.jpg) (http://postimg.cc/image/o377zfhnp/)
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I guess someone in CA still thinks this tree could be a mystery hybrid of some sort!
At this point I'm trying not to take offense.
read this recent post from edhat.com
http://www.edhat.com/site/tidbit.cfm?nid=154202 (http://www.edhat.com/site/tidbit.cfm?nid=154202)
"Now with that kind if annual wind fall I began to wonder why there were no volunteer trees sprouting? Seems likely that this is a sterile hybrid, that would explain why the fruits are close to one tree, leaves match another and the shape and growth match even another. If that is the case...
Can I name it after my dog? He's the reason I started paying attention to it in the first place.??
I think Orpet or Francheschi left us a riddle.
I wonder if they even knew."
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marklee: Did I miss something? Have you given me the i.d. for this tree here in Santa Barbara? Your photos and description have me very excited, as I know you are writing about the very same kind of tree. What is it? (The smell in my kitchen from several of the fruits is nearly obnoxious.) Please tell me if you know the correct name. Thank you.
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marklee: Did I miss something? Have you given me the i.d. for this tree here in Santa Barbara? Your photos and description have me very excited, as I know you are writing about the very same kind of tree. What is it? (The smell in my kitchen from several of the fruits is nearly obnoxious.) Please tell me if you know the correct name. Thank you.
Yes you missed it!
It was finally identified as a new hybrid!
We're calling it a "garlic truffle pear"
The arborist at the university here says it's a sterile cross between a loquat and a quince!
::)
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marklee: Did I miss something? Have you given me the i.d. for this tree here in Santa Barbara? Your photos and description have me very excited, as I know you are writing about the very same kind of tree. What is it? (The smell in my kitchen from several of the fruits is nearly obnoxious.) Please tell me if you know the correct name. Thank you.
Yes you missed it!
It was finally identified as a new hybrid!
We're calling it a "garlic truffle pear"
The arborist at the university here says it's a sterile cross between a loquat and a quince!
::)
LOL 😀
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Seriously? I will not be able to sleep tonight, thinking marklee knows the name and will not say.
And I just had to pour some baking soda into my kitchen scraps pail, where I'd put that fruit. I love skunk smell, but cannot stand the smell of this fruit. Gah.
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I suggest you read through the whole 3 pages of this thread. It's only been positively identified about 5 times now, starting with about the third post.
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Dear Oscar. Thanks for the kind and patient reply. Much appreciated.
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marklee: Did I miss something? Have you given me the i.d. for this tree here in Santa Barbara? Your photos and description have me very excited, as I know you are writing about the very same kind of tree. What is it? (The smell in my kitchen from several of the fruits is nearly obnoxious.) Please tell me if you know the correct name. Thank you.
Yes you missed it!
It was finally identified as a new hybrid!
We're calling it a "garlic truffle pear"
The arborist at the university here says it's a sterile cross between a loquat and a quince!
::)
Good one Adam. Yes Chiwoowa it has been Id'd. I suppose the seeds went around California a while back. The fruit is nasty and if someone in southern California wants a nice size fruiting one in a 25 gallon pot, and has something to trade send me a pm.
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Dear Oscar. Thanks for the kind and patient reply. Much appreciated.
If you find any other unusual fruiting trees in Sta. Barbara please post it here first for ID. It was great to see all your photos.
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why does it seem like the fruits that taste like garbage always fruit prolifically?
I guess jaboticabas are one of the exceptions. :D
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why does it seem like the fruits that taste like garbage always fruit prolifically ?
Answer: because nobody wants to eat them, not even the birds. And you will find big piles under those trees.
There are excellent fruits that are prolific, but then people and animals will also prolifically eat them. Ergo, no piles of fruit under those trees. And they will just seem less prolific.
Being jack of all jabos you should know some good fruits are prolific! ;) What excellent fruit is more prolific than a healthy jaboticaba tree?
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Why is it that crappy fruit are also some of the toughest?
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Why is it that crappy fruit are also some of the toughest?
i guess everyone's got their strong points and weak points!
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I just tried fruit from the Orpet tree, was not good. Had the garlicky weird taste, and was just sweet and sour with no other identifiable tastes besides the bad one. Here is an article about it:
https://www.smgrowers.com/info/Eugenia_myrcianthesOrpet.asp#:~:text=Eugenia%20myrcianthes%3A%20the%20Mystery%20Tree%20in%20Orpet%20Park,-Randy%20Baldwin%2C%20San&text=This%20tree%20in%20the%20Myrtle,in%20late%20winter%20into%20spring. (https://www.smgrowers.com/info/Eugenia_myrcianthesOrpet.asp#:~:text=Eugenia%20myrcianthes%3A%20the%20Mystery%20Tree%20in%20Orpet%20Park,-Randy%20Baldwin%2C%20San&text=This%20tree%20in%20the%20Myrtle,in%20late%20winter%20into%20spring.)
Article implies they might taste good underripe so I may go back and try a less ripe one. A shame it didn't taste good as fruit looks nice, was very juicy and tree was pretty and productive.
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But some people selling seeds have told me they taste really good. Haha
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Planted one on my fence line so fruit-loving neighbor can appreciate the fruit. No fruiting yet.
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I visited the Orpet tree a few times this year. The fruit is "ok" when it is underripe, kind of like an apple or something I guess. When it's ripe, it's garlic as heck - pass. I did gather seeds and plant seedlings for whatever reason though.
Miguel.PT has a variety that doesn't have the garlic flavor he says and I'll grow that one as an experiment.
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Someone is selling seeds from Orpet in the for sale section and saying it tastes delicious lol. They must love garlic...