Some Random Garden Pictures

[Mike T]

It is not mine but a friends' after I gave him seed and then mine died in a cyclone.It is a bisex of course not a female and round bisex types are the way of the future.Yellows and seperate sex one are just so yesterday.Look at the seed company I suggested and I reckon in a few years they'll be on your doorstep.Solos,NG reds,Thai reds and longs are still pretty good but things seem to be moving.

[fruitlovers]

It is not mine but a friends' after I gave him seed and then mine died in a cyclone.It is a bisex of course not a female and round bisex types are the way of the future.Yellows and seperate sex one are just so yesterday.Look at the seed company I suggested and I reckon in a few years they'll be on your doorstep.Solos,NG reds,Thai reds and longs are still pretty good but things seem to be moving.

I think Solos are still one of most sold types of papayas. Don't see them moving anywhere.

[Mike T]

Solos to Papayas are like hayden is to mangoes and both are entrenched.People speak of popularity and the most sold and common is not always best.Lovers of fruit sometimes want to soar with the eagles rather run with pack and try the finest.Don't get me wrong solos are good and I have one.

[simon_grow]

Hey Jacob, great updates on your trees.  Your Hak Ip Lychee is huge and I hope you get fruit next year.  Your Biew Kiew Longan is so small but has quite a lot of bloom spikes, you should get some good fruit from that tree in a couple years.  I wanted to get a Biew Kiew Longan also but couldn't find any in the shape I wanted so I picked up a Kohala and Sri Chompoo instead.  Let us know how your Wampee tastes when it finally fruit
Simon

[fruitlovers]

Solos to Papayas are like hayden is to mangoes and both are entrenched.People speak of popularity and the most sold and common is not always best.Lovers of fruit sometimes want to soar with the eagles rather run with pack and try the finest.Don't get me wrong solos are good and I have one.

Mate? You dare speak of entrenchment in land of the KP? 25 years+ of the same old same old?

[Mike T]

Fruitlovers not really as KP is a whole class of mangoes and it is continually improving in the last 4 decades.Peach and bown special lineages are big and luscious and were so superior to the names I won't say again, they slam dunked the industry in popularity over and over.Only now with good asians has the gauntlet been thrown down to the KP types.1kg,red blushed bowen fruit seem to be in every second park and they have also become entrenched in the psyche over the decades as the best.They can look after themselves and doen't need my defence as I am an advocate of diversity and improvement rather than entrenchment.
Solo papaya is small,uniform,predictable has market recognition so will continue strongly irrespective of the quality of its rivals which may be too large or less recognisable to the public.Hayden I think must enjoy public recognition and a level of entrenchment to do so well in the US market.It clearly appeals to the US palate.

[MangoFang]

Jacob - did they all breathe a sigh of relief when they got outside?

You are an amazing grower of this stuff and all your plants show it!

MangoFang

[fruitlovers]

Fruitlovers not really as KP is a whole class of mangoes and it is continually improving in the last 4 decades.Peach and bown special lineages are big and luscious and were so superior to the names I won't say again, they slam dunked the industry in popularity over and over.Only now with good asians has the gauntlet been thrown down to the KP types.1kg,red blushed bowen fruit seem to be in every second park and they have also become entrenched in the psyche over the decades as the best.They can look after themselves and doen't need my defence as I am an advocate of diversity and improvement rather than entrenchment.
Solo papaya is small,uniform,predictable has market recognition so will continue strongly irrespective of the quality of its rivals which may be too large or less recognisable to the public.Hayden I think must enjoy public recognition and a level of entrenchment to do so well in the US market.It clearly appeals to the US palate.

Mike, you keep talking about solo papaya like it's only one cultivar. But just like KP it's a whole class of small cultivars of papayas, not just one cultivar. Solo includes:  sunset, sunrise, waimanalo, kapoho, and some other more recent ones including GM rainbow.
That said i'm sure KP, even the newest version, will not stand up to our best mangos here or the best in Florida. My KP still hasn't fruited, but people here that have had it both here and in Ozzieland don't think very highly of it. But i'm glad you like it! 

[Mike T]

Yes fruitlovers I should have said solos.It is interesting that it does not appeal to the amercan palate just as hayden may struggle in some areas for the same reason.People from Asia seem to go for it as it may be closer to SE Asian types.

[fruitlovers]

Maybe we don't have the latest and greatest version of KP? How many versions are there and do they carry additional names to differentiate them?

[Jacob13]

Hello Friends,

emegar - I got 1 or 2 lychees a while back but nothing else to speak of yet.  Nor have I got any fruits from my Longan, hopefully a few this year.  As for the Wampee, I got it at Mimosa. It was grafted and only about 2.5' to 3 feet tall when I got it.  It has grown so fast. It is over 8 feet tall and I have already cut 5+ feet off the top.

Joe - Thanks, I think at some point I will plant the Sapodilla in the ground, not sure when or where yet.

Ed - It looks like we'll just be exchanging seeds.

dnt72800 - Thanks for the compliments

Simon - Yeah, my Hak Ip is pretty decent in size.  I say it is between 7'-8' feet and doing really well. Hopefully I will get fruit from it and my Sweetheart next year, and hopefully get to try some Longans from my Biew Kiew this year as well as the Wampee.

Mango Perrito - Thanks Again my friend.

Jacob

[Mike T]

Fruitlovers it is a mess with KP naming so they are all just called Bowens and fairly randomly peach mango and bowen special.They are seedling grown so much even in plantations that there there is ongoing selection of good ones all over the place from Sydney to Darwin.

[fruitlovers]

Fruitlovers it is a mess with KP naming so they are all just called Bowens and fairly randomly peach mango and bowen special.They are seedling grown so much even in plantations that there there is ongoing selection of good ones all over the place from Sydney to Darwin.

If they're not named i don't see how you can differentiate the different KP's ore even call them a class of cultivars?

[Mike T]

Just out of interest Carica monoica fruits at a tiny size.
Fruitlovers I would not say 'class of cultivars', more class of mangoes or number of lineages.You can see differences within seed grown cultivars that are very old even when 'forms' within don't get a new cultivar name.Colour,shape and size varies in KP even though most other cultivars may vary less except due to environmental factors.It does raise an issue,should seedlings of annonas,jacks and many other fruit retain their variety name?   

[fruitlovers]

Just out of interest Carica monoica fruits at a tiny size.
Fruitlovers I would not say 'class of cultivars', more class of mangoes or number of lineages.You can see differences within seed grown cultivars that are very old even when 'forms' within don't get a new cultivar name.Colour,shape and size varies in KP even though most other cultivars may vary less except due to environmental factors.It does raise an issue,should seedlings of annonas,jacks and many other fruit retain their variety name?

No, jacks and annonas raised from seed should not keep their varietal name because they are not true from seed. It's ok to says seedling of, for example seedling of Black Gold, so you know what the parentage is. I suppose you can get away with naming seedling KP's as KP as the seeds are polyembronic. However, in case of KP, if you have several lineages, or land races, but you don't name them then it's impossible to keep track of what is what, and to make further improvements.

[Mike T]

There is no rest for my two krasuey sapodillas.Huge harvests in rapid succession just won't slow it down and it is going in hard immediately.If only my sawo and prolific would follow suit.Sapodilla enthusiasts after a few inspections responded with 'your kidding' and 'bullship' to their productivity.

[Mike T]

Picture inserted again.

[Mike T]

At the risk of harping, the bunching habit of krausey sapodilla makes crops very large.