The Tropical Fruit Forum

Take my Cogshall, please!  My first tree, planted about 10 years ago.  Every fruit is a failed experiment.  Uneven ripening, poster child for jelly seed.  Next month she is meeting the executioner.  Only question:  what to replace it with?  I'm thinking Angie.

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I have a love/hate relationship with my Cogshall.  Well, more like I'm not a fan but my daughter and wife love it.  Which means I'm stuck with it.  I planted it a good 10 years or so ago, when I decided I wanted mango tree in my yard.  The Cogshall, I was told, is a great backyard mango, a dwarf.  Well, my guy is about 18-20 feet tall. I can live with that.  But over the years it has been a very sporadic producer.  Last season no mangos.  This year, an early bloom at about 50% of the tree.  It has always had a jelly seed problem.  I've been picking them early this season and so far that hasn't been an issue.  However, every mango is ripening unevenly.  The bottoms become fully ripe while the top of the fruit remains green and hard.  What causes this?  My Pickering, maybe 15 feet away, has no jelly seed or ripening issues.

I don't see much in the way of fungus, but the tree is pretty big, (by the way, how did Cogshall get a rep as a "dwarf"?  This tree is close to 20 feet tall ).  With the tree being this size I don't know what's going on up top.
As for the male/female flower aspect, that's a new one by me.  What affects this ratio and how is flower gender identified?  Is it even politically correct to do so??

A week or so of Cold weather at the beginning of December. Full blooms on all trees (in Florida) require about 2 consecutive weeks of nighttime temps below 60F. With less of that, there is progressively less complete bloom.

E.g. ,arbitrary numbers:
 10 days of 50s might result in 90% bloom
7 days 60%
5 days less

And so forth.

Some trees had full blooms off the early December chill (mostly older large trees and  “bloom sensitive” cultivars, with exceptions of course).

Since then we’ve largely been above historical average on nighttime lows in our typical pattern over the last 10 years or so. So the mangos are staying dormant until another major cold front rolls through that lasts the better part of a week instead of just a couple nights.

Appreciate the info.  Thank you.

Yeah, color me surprised to see my Cogshall and Pickering sending up pannicles quite aggressively.  I first noticed around two weeks ago.  Very unusual for me.  I don't normally see this in my yard until late January.  And last year, the Cogshall didn't bloom at all and the Pickering gave up about all of 10 fruits.  I'm in central Broward.  Warm days and a few cool nights, and wetter than usual for this time of year.  Should I be concerned about powdery mildew?

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Thanks, zands.  You confirmed what I was thinking.

I'm in central Broward.  My Cogshall, maybe 10 years in ground and  about 18 feet tall, has always been a spotty producer.  Last year she gave up about 90 mangoes.  This year, all of one. . .and a squirrel got to it first.  LOL
My Pickering, three years in ground, produced about 3 dozen mangoes last year.  This summer, about a dozen and surprisingly, a few had jelly seed. 

Thanks, Jeff.  The Pickering gets a stay of execution,  .  But the Cogshall has just about tested my patience. The jury is still out on whether she stays or becomes mulch.

You gotta get rid of that brown thumb!

    Maybe that's it!

Quote from: Carbo on February 23, 2019, 10:48:06 PM

My 18' tall Cogshall has all of 2 pannicles.  My Pickering, 3 years in ground and about 6' tall has about 6 pannicles.

Your mangos must not like you

You'd think they were my in-laws.   

I'm hearing about the Cecilove mango for the first time.  Early reports are encouraging.  What have others heard regarding this cultivar?  What about availability?