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I am looking to do the same thing to the CnC I just lopped.

FG is still under patent, but I would not be opposed to approach grafting, but that would mean seeking out an already grafted one which is far more difficult than getting the budwood of an off-patent but similarly appreciable variety.

I've already decided some of the tree will be an apricot. Maybe there are some similar low-chill pluots that members of this forum could recommend.

Yes Oolie, thanks for the added info, I was thinking maybe the OP needs to go get to purchase the tree instead, thus providing multiple potential scions, since OP likely needs to do multiple grafting on the multiple sprouts that would normally come out from a topped tree. The concern that we have in SoCal is the chill requirement of the FG; Dave Wilson site says it needs 500-600 hours, but I see OP said this is for Santa Barbara region, which is further North than LA/San Diego. My tree is still young, in fact it fruits the first time this season even in my less than the chill requirement specified above, so Santa Barbara's location should be an advantage in this department.

Just for and added note, I even regard the FG flavor to be even better than the rave reviews of SpiceZee nectaplum: a lot juicier, sweeter and as the name implied "imploding" flavor like a grenade, as one magazine described it...
(I didn't bother typing more earlier since it was awkward to do so on a tiny smartphone screen...). By the way, I still can't figure out what CnC stands for, it shows I am still a newbie... ;D

Correction: Double check the chill hrs. of FG: "300-400 hours below 45°F"  Samu 09/11/19

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I highly recommend “Flavor grenade” pluot; my best tasting stone fruits (4) that I grow...

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Looks like you are on your way to becoming tropical fruit tree growers, congratulations!
Glancing at your photo, seems like you got plenty of open space available and having the favorable climate where you live, a great combinations to growing more fruit trees!
Wish you more successes in the future!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Soursop fruiting in living room.
« on: August 11, 2019, 03:02:59 PM »
Congratulations!
This encourages me not to give up trying to fruit Soursop in SoCal...
Thanks Radoslav!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado grafting
« on: July 31, 2019, 04:24:54 PM »
Your young avocado trees look so healthy.
I also notice that you use adjustable mini sprayers to irrigate them. That's
what I use on some of my trees, besides using drip lines as well.
I am thinking of yanking my very slow growing Holiday (bought in pot)
with a direct seed in the ground planting; learnt it from Simon's thread.
Thanks for sharing those pictures, Brad!

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I got to thinking maybe I should do something with my Golden Nugget tree too?!

They were planted almost 4 yrs ago, side by side with a Kishu Mandarin at about the same 5G size; the Kishu has been a prolific producers the last 2 years; but none from the Golden Nugget; also the Kishu tree size overwhelmed the nugget by about 5:1 easy!
So, I am thinking maybe take out the Nugget, and give all the space to Kishu.

Note: The Kishu was from local Durling Nursery while the Nugget was a tree given to me from my sister in San Jose, Ca; maybe it doesn't adapt well with our SoCal climate; just wondering if that maybe the reason for it's retarded growth...


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Just wanted to update this old thread; while googling around, I found someone who stated living in Orange County zone 10a-10b (SoCal) was able to grow and fruited to maturity of Soursop tree she grew from seed.

She (user name "Diana ---") also included some photos of the fruit(s) while it was still hanging and when she cut it open, her first entry was dated June 30 2017, in case you want to jump to it.  Here's the website where I found it:

https://www.houzz.com/discussions/2186787/do-you-have-a-soursop-that-is-producing-fruit-for-you

So, there is one proof that I can find, hope this will give encouragement to others and myself. So, I intend to plant the 2 seedlings that I have into the ground...soon!

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Another creative way of grafting;
I would like to try this method, thanks for sharing, Kumin!

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That fruit looks like still hard to touch, so it’s crunchy. If you can wait for snother week or two, they become softer, sweeter and bigger at a fast rate. Sorry tor spelling error, hard to correct on iphone...

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Video tour
« on: June 24, 2019, 07:49:07 PM »
Wow Brad, that’s a dream SoCal fruit gardener’s back yard! Thanks for sharing, wish I have just a portion of your lot size to play with...erm, to work with... ;)

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Whip graft.
« on: June 23, 2019, 03:14:47 AM »
That looks like an improved whip graft: a "Z graft"; The "Z" makes the joint more stabil too. I probably should be doing more of this, I think it provides a larger cambium contacts than the regular cleft graft.
Thanks for the reminder,  Laaz!

By the way; surprised to see the way he split into the bag, ( assuming to give more humidity?) , I guess it's practical...!  ;D

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Let the Lychee war begin...
« on: June 03, 2019, 12:47:04 AM »
Well so far I've lost about 1/3 of the fruits on the tree. Between the birds and the squirrels (I'm tired of chasing them off) several times a day.

I forgot I have some of the shiny holographic tape that bradflorida mentioned, Thanks Brad for reminding me  :)

Hubby put a bunch on the tree so hopefully I will get to eat at least 1/3 of what's left...Fingers crossed!!

Thanks for sharing your thoughts, ideas and experience. Good Luck to all of us!

Sorry to hear about that 1/3 lost of fruits. Now, this holographic tape idea is interesting. Let us know how  your luck is with this tape, I am anxious to hear the result, Pug! My Mauritius fruits are still about pea size at a.t.m. ...

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Too bad its rare to find fresh Sapodilla fruit in the markets here. There is a strong demand for them.
Simon

Fyi, today I found fresh Florida's sapodilla fruits at "Thien Phat" Tropical fruit store in Westminster, CA: 9291 Bolsa Ave. You're right, they don't always have them...Still rather hard to touch, I am told they are from Florida, looks like from different varieties, (home grown?) selling at $7/lbs, I grabbed a bag:



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Simon et Al,

Is the Haysa sapodilla any good in southern California? People say it's more vigorous. I have two trees that I planted this spring. I also have two Alano trees that were planted one and two years ago. The two years old is flowering right now.

Here's my row of sapodillas. Still have room for 6 more. Thanks.

I don’t have a Hasya and I only just got my Alano so I’m not sure how well the Hasya grows and produces here. I have to check with my friends that are growing different Sapodilla varieties.

I used to not like Sapodillas but now I’m addicted to them.

Simon

I planted a 15G that was already flowering Hasya in 2014, (Simon is right, I spent $225 for it!)  it was about 9-10 ft high on it's one lone main trunk. I pugged about 2-3 ft off that main trunk, now almost 5 yrs later, it only reach about 8-9 ft high today albeit wider lateral branches.

Hasya is exceptionally stingy in setting it's fruits, and took 12-13 months to mature. For this reason, I have been trying to slowly cut off the Hasya branches and graft with other varieties on the sprouts that come out.
My Alano branches seem to be more productive, as already mentioned.
Taste wise, I found Hasya has stronger flavor and sweeter than Alano, however. I have Makok and Silas Wood branches on this tree also, but the fruits are not yet ripe. In general, I found it's trouble free/easy to grow it in SoCal, no observable disease that I can tell so far -remind me of growing Guavas and Persimmon- .

Please keep in mind, that these are what I observe growing sapodilla in my yard; I understand folks in Florida experience a lot faster growth and fruiting on saps, so your result may vary...

Here's my tree looks today; good luck with yours!


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Making my cherimoya flower!
« on: May 19, 2019, 03:07:10 PM »
Do you get any chill hours?  I think cherimoyas need some minor chill time maybe 100+ hrs

Jeff,
According to California Rare Fruit Grower's website, cherimoya requires about 50-100 hours of chilling hours; then I looked up your average yearly temp. for Kona, it shows a pretty much steady high 60F's to low 70F's for your night time lows... So, even at 1800ft  elevation I don't think you could get to low 45F to reach the chill zone.

So, as yourself and Brad suspected, this could possibly be the reason of you having difficulty flowering cherimoya at your location. Good to know your atemoyas are doing well there, though... :)

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Lot of people share your frustration growing avocado successfully.
Here's an older thread that might help you:

http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=12844.msg311421#msg311421

Good luck!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: SoCal mango flowering update
« on: April 01, 2019, 12:06:47 PM »
2 days ago photo:



Left: Mahachanok; Right" LZ on Laverne Manila rootstock.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Who dun it?
« on: March 22, 2019, 04:35:29 PM »
Sorry to see that happened!
I usually place a small paper bags on the new grafts, to protect them from the hot afternoon sun as well as to alert others to leave them alone. Saw this at Warren's ("wslau") yard, and they work for me:



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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: WTB Wax Jambu scions
« on: March 15, 2019, 12:26:54 AM »
Received mine today and grafted right away.
Thanks for great packaging and the extras!

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: WTB Wax Jambu scions
« on: March 12, 2019, 10:40:35 PM »
Michael,
I just sent you thru paypal/friend for 4 scions...
Total: $23....fyi.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado grafting
« on: March 12, 2019, 09:52:33 PM »
Brad, your young cados look so healthy!
I very much like the idea of setting up a "breaking in" area,
seems like you are an expert grafter/nurseryman now Brad!

Grand opening "Brad Spaugh" Nursery in view...?  :D

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Thanks for your detail explanation. I respect people living in marginal zones but still putting lots of effort for the sake of growing their favorite trees...

Please give us update on this tree, I think I am not the only one who is interested in it's progress.

Have fun growing it, and good luck McCain!

Edited: vocab.

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Spicezee
« on: March 08, 2019, 02:59:43 AM »


My Spicezee tree is already displaying it's Spring color...I think it will be a good year for stone fruits, considering the cooler weather we have this season in Southern California...

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Wow, that's one super speedy growth! Good job!
I am wondering it is common to grow and fruits jackfruit trees in your 9b zone?
(I saw one photo posting of a fruiting tree that was said to be grown in Southern California,  but haven't seen the tree myself.)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Avocado 24/7 Thread
« on: March 01, 2019, 03:48:01 PM »

 It came back from the dead after a heater failure nailed it last year - 18F.

3 weeks ago and growing like a weed.  One of the most beautiful avocado trees I've seen.



Wow Mark, that is an impressive growth! Looks like you need to prune the top already before long! So, you are letting this tree holds fruits this year, I supposed...?

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