cherimoya seeds black or brown?

[C24mccain]

I just ordered some cherimoya seeds for rootstock and when they came in I saw they are brown. I thought they would be black based on what I have seen online. They did come from a source in Florida so it makes me wonder if they are sugar apple seeds.  Thoughts?

[From the sea]

I dont have any experience with cherimoya but with the other anonas i have grown the seeds turn brown when they dry out. I would just plant them out and see what grows. Once they have secondary leaves they should be easy to tell id it is a sugar apple or cherimoya.

[SeaWalnut]

Somme are brown and you can differentiate them from sugar apples because usually they are bigger and wider.
Also all sugar apple seeds i had were black while cherimoya were somme black and somme brown.
The seeds need to be real fresh from my experience.
I ordered cherimoya seeds from Ebay 6 times until i got just a single cherimoya seedling.
Same with sugar apples.There are verry dissapointing these annonaceae seeds.

[spaugh]

They come out of the fruit black then dry to brown.  Its normal.

They dont need to be fresh either, 2 year old dry seeds all sprout for me.  They just need to be left in pots and not over watered.  It takes a month or so to sprout. 

[C24mccain]

Thanks everyone.. the seeds are certainly dry. I'll give them a go.

[BDev]

They come out of the fruit black then dry to brown.  Its normal.

They dont need to be fresh either, 2 year old dry seeds all sprout for me.  They just need to be left in pots and not over watered.  It takes a month or so to sprout.

Yes, exactly true. I live in the area of Ecuador where cherimoya originates. We've got hundreds of them growing wild, all fruiting right now.
Seeds should be viable for quite a while. I got some seeds from another cherimoya variety in a different part of Ecuador. They were over a year old and sprouted without problem.

[RodneyS]

Perfectly fine.  You can soak the seeds until they sink, then plant them.  That softens the seed hulls.  But, it's not necessary

[spaugh]

They come out of the fruit black then dry to brown.  Its normal.

They dont need to be fresh either, 2 year old dry seeds all sprout for me.  They just need to be left in pots and not over watered.  It takes a month or so to sprout.

Yes, exactly true. I live in the area of Ecuador where cherimoya originates. We've got hundreds of them growing wild, all fruiting right now.
Seeds should be viable for quite a while. I got some seeds from another cherimoya variety in a different part of Ecuador. They were over a year old and sprouted without problem.

Thats nice.  Whats the elevation where they grow there?

[ammoun]

These are 1 day old seeds.

[Seanny]

Put a sheet of paper towel over the seeds to pull them under water.

[ammoun]

Put a sheet of paper towel over the seeds to pull them under water.

That's a good idea, although I still think most of these seeds are bad. I tried opening a few and they were almost hollow with some dark matter inside them...

[BDev]

Thats nice.  Whats the elevation where they grow there?

1620m / 5300'