The Tropical Fruit Forum

Great! I'm glad people are reading (since you guys don't really respond on that website)! Did you start the seeds in a seed starting mix, or just dig the hole, amend and toss them in? Also, a silly question, but where do you buy California avocado fruit in Arizona, notable the Reed?

Have you seen my post about this subject on http://phoenixtropicals.com/phpbb/index.php, starch? What kind of seedling did you use? I haven't done this before, so can you post some pictures?

What types of stor  bought mango was the rootstock? Was it Tommy Atkin or manila?

I find this in abundance at my local Lowes. They come in March, but stay on the shelf for quite a while. I think it's because people don't know what they are and would spend their ~20$ on a mango instead.

Jsvand5, what kind of plastic do you use?

I think the Arizona climate has a lot more to do with the leaf burn issue.

Then forget about it, I guess you don't need Arizonian help.

Sorry guys, had to start it! 

I'm sure it's mostly about variety, but in general, non astringents do better in warmer areas than astringents. If you wanted to know if an astringent persimmon is American or Asian, it's easy to tell. First of all, they each have their own distinctive flavors, so If you matched it up against a Hachiya, then it would be clear. Second of all, American persimmons can take much more cold than Asian persimmons. I would say that if you were growing Asian persimmon in zone 6 then it would be surprising, although there is the island heating effect (if you live in the city) to take into account and the popularity of Asian persimmons over American ones. Third of all, American persimmon fruit is  much smaller than Asian persimmon. But if you haven't tried the fruit before, you could ask whether the tree suckers a lot (Americans sucker profusely). As for chill hours, if you have at least 100 chill hours, then you'll be fine. Most places say <100 chill hours, others say 200 just  to be sure, so it's hard to say when it comes to like 50 chill hours or so. If you try, please put it in a cold micro climate and pour ice on the roots if like. It may also need frost protection if it never goes into dormancy, but you could try experimenting. To help your chances, try grafting more cold tender varieties (such as Hachiya or Giombo, for astringents).

There are quite a few out there, mostly originating from Mexico and Madagascar. I stated looking the san marcos grower website and a few caught my eye.