Author Topic: Ugly Betty, F-29 (Juicy Peach), HW-14, Sunrise (Read 15431 times)

Patrick · « **on:** July 02, 2012, 06:42:12 PM »

My wife stopped by Zills today and picked up some trees and a few mangoes! One in the box was labeled Ugly Betty and supposedly is in production for next spring!

Awesome mango, great sweet flavor, real ugly!

a couple others..

Cookie Monster · « **Reply #1 on:** July 02, 2012, 07:12:09 PM »

Very nice. Was there a citrussy flavor to the ugly betty?

Patrick · « **Reply #2 on:** July 02, 2012, 08:48:43 PM »

Just ate another one... Super sweet, mild, fiberless, good seed to flesh ratio.. Didnt detect any citrus flavor, but I could if I tried real hard.. These damn mangoes are all so good..

In fairness, the HW-14 wasnt as delightful to me.. Kind of had a vegetable taste at first then sweet and fibery.. Not as noteable in my book..

Also had a Sunset that did have some citrus taste and was REALLY fragrant.. That one was really good, not as big as Betty though!

Tim · « **Reply #3 on:** July 02, 2012, 08:58:04 PM »

All hail ZILL!!!

Squam256 · « **Reply #4 on:** July 02, 2012, 09:56:05 PM »

Sunrise tastes similar to Jakarta (its parent) but is much better, imo.

I really like Ugly Betty. Its a truly fiberless mango; a 'freestone' type. I thought it to be fairly rich in flavor actually.

The F-29 on the other hand tasted peach-like to me when I first tried it, if I'm remembering right . Second evaluation was more citrus/tangerine/orange like.

All are really good.

Can't comment on HW-14, haven't had that one yet.

Mr. Clean · « **Reply #5 on:** July 03, 2012, 01:21:12 AM »

Quote from: Squam256 on July 02, 2012, 09:56:05 PM

Sunrise tastes similar to Jakarta (its parent) but is much better, imo.

I really like Ugly Betty. Its a truly fiberless mango; a 'freestone' type. I thought it to be fairly rich in flavor actually.

When you say "freestone"... are you saying it is seedless?

FlyingFoxFruits · « **Reply #6 on:** July 03, 2012, 01:50:45 AM »

Ok I m fed up now...they went and named a mango after my momma!

Ugly betty!

Hey, I couldn't tell why its so ugly?? the shape?? the pic posted didn't look so ugly to me..but beauty is in the eye of the beholder...and my dad thinks my mom Betty is beautiful.

Thanks for posting pics!

fruitlovers · « **Reply #7 on:** July 03, 2012, 03:15:14 AM »

Quote from: Mr. Clean on July 03, 2012, 01:21:12 AM

Quote from: Squam256 on July 02, 2012, 09:56:05 PM
Sunrise tastes similar to Jakarta (its parent) but is much better, imo.

I really like Ugly Betty. Its a truly fiberless mango; a 'freestone' type. I thought it to be fairly rich in flavor actually.

When you say "freestone"... are you saying it is seedless?

Freestone means the pulp doesn't stick to the seed, not that it is free of a stone.

Mike T · « **Reply #8 on:** July 03, 2012, 08:41:15 AM »

As opposed to clingstone.Saf I'm glad I read on because F-29 is not a very common girls name.

Squam256 · « **Reply #9 on:** July 03, 2012, 09:22:44 AM »

Quote from: fruitlovers on July 03, 2012, 03:15:14 AM

Quote from: Mr. Clean on July 03, 2012, 01:21:12 AM
Quote from: Squam256 on July 02, 2012, 09:56:05 PM
Sunrise tastes similar to Jakarta (its parent) but is much better, imo.

I really like Ugly Betty. Its a truly fiberless mango; a 'freestone' type. I thought it to be fairly rich in flavor actually.

When you say "freestone"... are you saying it is seedless?

Freestone means the pulp doesn't stick to the seed, not that it is free of a stone.

Correct

natsgarden123 · « **Reply #10 on:** July 03, 2012, 09:41:35 AM »

Ugly Betty... You gotta wonder how and why they came up with that..its always a female name

glad they didn't name it Ugly Natalie!

Patrick · « **Reply #11 on:** July 03, 2012, 09:13:03 PM »

Some shots of the F-29, did note some citrus taste in this one! Really nice flavor..

Tropicalgrower89 · « **Reply #12 on:** July 03, 2012, 09:17:34 PM »

Quote from: pj1881 on July 03, 2012, 09:13:03 PM

Some shots of the F-29, did note some citrus taste in this one! Really nice flavor..

Looks like a Cushman seedling.

Tim · « **Reply #13 on:** July 03, 2012, 09:41:38 PM »

jelly seed

Patrick · « **Reply #14 on:** July 04, 2012, 09:39:50 AM »

Sunrise Mango

mangomandan · « **Reply #15 on:** July 04, 2012, 11:24:09 AM »

Quote from: pj1881 on July 04, 2012, 09:39:50 AM

Sunrise Mango

Very nice.
I could imagine an enlargement of that Sunrise pic hanging in my living room.
And the fruit hanging out on my kitchen table.

MangoFang · « **Reply #16 on:** July 04, 2012, 06:21:52 PM »

LOL....Dan......I thoughy your decorating was all done!

But you are right - that Sunrise is one well-hued mango.
I wouldn't mind a little juice drizzle from that puppy
on my chin!

TheDesertRat

Mr. Clean · « **Reply #17 on:** July 04, 2012, 10:14:57 PM »

Quote from: pj1881 on July 04, 2012, 09:39:50 AM

Sunrise Mango

Nice, hopefully my Sunrise tree will have a mango next year.

Mr. Clean · « **Reply #18 on:** July 04, 2012, 10:56:35 PM »

Quote from: natsgarden123 on July 03, 2012, 09:41:35 AM

glad they didn't name it Ugly Natalie!

If that was the case, they would have called the mango tree something like "Nice Nectar Natalie"...

They would sell a lot more trees with nice names. Who would buy a tree called, "Nappy Natalie"...

natsgarden123 · « **Reply #19 on:** July 05, 2012, 09:32:20 AM »

Quote from: Mr. Clean on July 04, 2012, 10:56:35 PM

Quote from: natsgarden123 on July 03, 2012, 09:41:35 AM
glad they didn't name it Ugly Natalie!

If that was the case, they would have called the mango tree something like "Nice Nectar Natalie"...

They would sell a lot more trees with nice names. Who would buy a tree called, "Nappy Natalie"...

Well thank you Mark ...that sounds better

murahilin · « **Reply #20 on:** December 12, 2013, 09:22:15 PM »

Quote from: pj1881 (Patrick) on July 03, 2012, 09:13:03 PM

Some shots of the F-29, did note some citrus taste in this one! Really nice flavor..

Your review of the Juicy Peach makes it sound pretty good. It's a nice looking mango as well. Zill's has now finally released the tree for sale so I might have to go buy one. I think DonGeorgio had a few to trade if anyone is interested. I think he may still have some. Here's his post I saw today:

http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=8425.0

Squam256 · « **Reply #21 on:** December 12, 2013, 09:56:20 PM »

Damn I had the number wrong. F-29

Cookie Monster · « **Reply #22 on:** December 12, 2013, 10:21:09 PM »

Ms Marlys spoke really highly of the juicy peach. I did planted one already :-)

Tropicalgrower89 · « **Reply #23 on:** December 13, 2013, 12:40:54 AM »

Darn it. All these new Zill creations and no space.

Oh well, at least I have lemon zest, coconut cream and other top quality cultivars. Better than just a haden like I had in the other house I lived in.

Cookie Monster · « **Reply #24 on:** December 13, 2013, 08:36:41 PM »

haha no doubt. Reminds me of when I used to collect baseball cards when I was a little dood. I think I'm up to 8 of the new zill cultivars planted out now.

dongeorgio · « **Reply #25 on:** December 13, 2013, 08:46:18 PM »

What is a comprehensive list of the new Zills varieties? I have the following:

Harvest Moon
Juliette
Peach Cobbler
Juicy Peach
Sweet Tart
Pineapple Pleasure
Coconut Cream
Lemon Zest
Ugly Betty
Pina Colada
Am I missing any?

johnb51 · « **Reply #26 on:** December 13, 2013, 08:51:20 PM »

Zill should have a website!

Squam256 · « **Reply #27 on:** December 13, 2013, 09:49:30 PM »

Quote from: dongeorgio on December 13, 2013, 08:46:18 PM

What is a comprehensive list of the new Zills varieties? I have the following:

Harvest Moon
Juliette
Peach Cobbler
Juicy Peach
Sweet Tart
Pineapple Pleasure
Coconut Cream
Lemon Zest
Ugly Betty
Pina Colada
Am I missing any?

Lady's Choice I think counts as one, but you probably wouldn't want to eat that unless you're into East Indian.

Quote from: johnb51 on December 13, 2013, 08:51:20 PM

Zill should have a website!

They kind of do but it never gets updated.

Mr. Clean · « **Reply #28 on:** December 14, 2013, 12:15:37 AM »

Quote from: dongeorgio on December 13, 2013, 08:46:18 PM

What is a comprehensive list of the new Zills varieties? I have the following:

Harvest Moon
Juliette
Peach Cobbler
Juicy Peach
Sweet Tart
Pineapple Pleasure
Coconut Cream
Lemon Zest
Ugly Betty
Pina Colada
Am I missing any?

You have a pretty good collection. Orange Sherbert and Sunrise should also be on the list. I only have these new varieties in ground:

Harvest Moon, Peach Cobbler, Sweet Tart, Pineapple Pleasure, Coconut Cream, Lemon Zest, Ugly Betty, Pina Colada

cwojo · « **Reply #29 on:** December 14, 2013, 10:41:01 AM »

I thought Orange Sherbert was something that Walter Zill had at his house and never officially started propogating? Not the same as Zill's High Performance where Gary works...

mikesid · « **Reply #30 on:** December 14, 2013, 10:45:09 AM »

Quote from: cwojo on December 14, 2013, 10:41:01 AM

I thought Orange Sherbert was something that Walter Zill had at his house and never officially started propogating? Not the same as Zill's High Performance where Gary works...

It's Gary's tree..Walter top worked one of his tree to OS...Walter only sells the fruit..Zill HPP has not released the tree for sale yet...the only way to get one is wait or plant a poly seed and wait...

dongeorgio · « **Reply #31 on:** December 14, 2013, 10:55:14 AM »

Orange Sherbet and Fruit Punch may or may not be released next year. It seems that Gary is on the fence on those two. (At least that is what I heard from someone who works there.)

thewildpapaya · « **Reply #32 on:** December 14, 2013, 11:33:56 AM »

I think from all of zills mangoes the coconut cream mango is my favorite. It is fiberless and creamy. Incredible taste. If anyone is interested in any variety in particular please visit the wild papaya nursery at www.thewildpapaya.com. Only a couples varieties are posted but we can get pretty much anything you like just email me with your inquiry. Keep checking back as i will be uploading more varieties.

gunnar429 · « **Reply #33 on:** February 05, 2014, 09:41:42 PM »

besides lady's choice, are there any others from above that in your opinion, are NOT worth planting?

Mangosurf · « **Reply #34 on:** February 21, 2014, 06:31:30 AM »

Does Juicy Peach have a flavor similar to Glenn? I planted a Sunrise in December and it is a relatively fast grower. I'm looking forward to trying some of these new releases in the next couple of years when my trees finally produce

gunnar429 · « **Reply #35 on:** February 21, 2014, 07:02:04 AM »

mangosurf, what is the growth habit of your sunrise mango in your experience?

Mangosurf · « **Reply #36 on:** February 21, 2014, 09:39:54 AM »

Here is a pic of my Sunrise mango I picked it up from Exotica and it has been steadily flushing with this unusually warm winter we have been having. The tree so far has a bushy growth habit with a lot of lateral branches

gunnar429 · « **Reply #37 on:** February 21, 2014, 11:48:35 AM »

Quote from: thewildpapaya on December 14, 2013, 11:33:56 AM

I think from all of zills mangoes the coconut cream mango is my favorite. It is fiberless and creamy. Incredible taste. If anyone is interested in any variety in particular please visit the wild papaya nursery at www.thewildpapaya.com. Only a couples varieties are posted but we can get pretty much anything you like just email me with your inquiry. Keep checking back as i will be uploading more varieties.

I agree... I lover the way the tree grows...very beautiful and strong. Plus, it branches out laterally. and forms a nice vase shape virtually on its own. Think I am going to get another one soon

gunnar429 · « **Reply #38 on:** February 21, 2014, 11:49:57 AM »

Quote from: Mangosurf on February 21, 2014, 09:39:54 AM

Here is a pic of my Sunrise mango I picked it up from Exotica and it has been steadily flushing with this unusually warm winter we have been having. The tree so far has a bushy growth habit with a lot of lateral branches

Wow! Now, I am definitely going to get one. I love how it is branching out so well.

Mangosurf · « **Reply #39 on:** February 21, 2014, 01:32:07 PM »

Of the mango trees I have the new Zills releases have been the fastest growing and healthiest. I have 2 Coconut cream, 1 sweet tart, and 1 Sunrise. Other trees include 1 Edward and 1 VP. I am debating on whether to get the Juicy Peach since there isn't much info out there yet but it sounds like an awesome mango! I like that it is a Tommy Atkins seedling because it may help with disease resistance and production. I just hope it doesn't have the fiber and blandness of its parent. Although I'm pretty sure Zills would never release a mango with those characteristics

gunnar429 · « **Reply #40 on:** February 21, 2014, 03:09:32 PM »

still trying to decide on pina colada and pineapple pleasure...gotta wait and try them this summer because a tart mango sounds hit or miss.

Harvest Moon and Ugly Betty get good reviews too. Any plans to get those 2?

Mr. Clean · « **Reply #41 on:** February 22, 2014, 11:53:42 PM »

Quote from: gunnar429 on February 21, 2014, 03:09:32 PM

still trying to decide on pina colada and pineapple pleasure...gotta wait and try them this summer because a tart mango sounds hit or miss.

Harvest Moon and Ugly Betty get good reviews too. Any plans to get those 2?

I have all four of those: Pina Colada, Pineapple Pleasure, Harvest Moon, and Ugly Betty.... unfortunately I haven't tasted any of them. My Pina Colada had a mango last year, but was unripe when I tasted it. :-( The Pina Colada is a small mango. My Pina Colada is covered with flowers now, so I am optimistic of some fruit this year. The Pineapple Pleasure is a larger mango and was good enough that a friend removed his Pina Colada to make room for a Pineapple Pleasure. Subsequently we heard the Pineapple Pleasure is a shy bearer.

gunnar429 · « **Reply #42 on:** February 24, 2014, 01:38:29 AM »

keep us posted. thanks!

natsgarden123 · « **Reply #43 on:** February 24, 2014, 09:12:17 AM »

Quote from: gunnar429 on February 21, 2014, 03:09:32 PM

still trying to decide on pina colada and pineapple pleasure...gotta wait and try them this summer because a tart mango sounds hit or miss.

Harvest Moon and Ugly Betty get good reviews too. Any plans to get those 2?

If you are into aesthetics, Harvest Moon is a very pretty tree. I tried the fruit last summer and its delicious as well.

gunnar429 · « **Reply #44 on:** February 24, 2014, 01:45:22 PM »

awesome....because I just picked up HM yesterday....Also got ugly betty so I guess I am not all about aesthetics...lol

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