Indian Mango season 2018

[simon_grow]

Any news about the 2018 Indian Mango Season? Here’s what I’ve gathered so far:

According to MangosZZ.com, the season starts in 22 days.
They are introducing a new variety called Swarna Rekha( AKA Sunderi) from Andhra Pradesh.

Here’s a link to last years thread: http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=23153.msg287468#msg287468

I’ll update this thread as I get more info.

Simon

[behlgarden]

I wonder why they dont get Gulab Khas, it has exceptional keeping quality on top of being excellent no. 1 mango.

[swapnil.tailor]

Seems too early for kesar, Alphonso and begampally, which we normally find I our local Indian store. Where do you guys buy your Indian mangos from? I am interested to try coconut cream as saw lot of good things and seems better than kesar.

[behlgarden]

Indian store ia best and cheapest bet for indian mangoes. Coconut cream or lemon zest are Zill mangoes not available in markets unless you get someone from Florida to se you. Kesar from India ate phenomenal.

[simon_grow]

I get my online Mangos from Mangozz.com I get the rest of my Mangos by growing them myself or from my friends orchards around San Diego.

Simon

[behlgarden]

I get my online Mangos from Mangozz.com I get the rest of my Mangos by growing them myself or from my friends orchards around San Diego.

Simon

you may be better off driving to Cerritos and buying from Indian stores. They always have Alphonso, Kesar, Bengalpali, and few others. However, Paki mangoes suck, for whatever reason they turn out over 50% fermented whether you buy from online or in store.

[swapnil.tailor]

online looks expensive  (i.e. $70 for a box, double the price of store one). We get kesar for $35-40/box (~10 mangos / box) in indian store till the supply last (2-3 months).

[FruitFool]

San Diego Indian grocery store (Miramar Cash and Carry) has Alphonso, Kesar, Bangalpali when in season.

-FruitFool

[RodneyS]

I get my online Mangos from Mangozz.com I get the rest of my Mangos by growing them myself or from my friends orchards around San Diego.

Simon

you may be better off driving to Cerritos and buying from Indian stores. They always have Alphonso, Kesar, Bengalpali, and few others. However, Paki mangoes suck, for whatever reason they turn out over 50% fermented whether you buy from online or in store.

Little India is technically in Artesia, which neighbors Cerritos.  Pioneer Cash & Carry is a good place to pick them up when available

[noochka1]

I've been checking out Mangozz.  I'd love to get some Mulgova, but I'm concerned that the fruit might be irradiated.  Do any of you know?

[Squam256]

I've been checking out Mangozz.  I'd love to get some Mulgova, but I'm concerned that the fruit might be irradiated.  Do any of you know?

They are all irradiated as per USDA quarantine regulations.

[simon_grow]

Sorry everyone I completely left out the local Indian supermarkets like Miramar Cash and Carry.

I only order online from Mangos.com if there is a new variety I would like to try or if I’m trying to get early Indian Mangos. The local Indian supermarkets tend to get their shipments after Mangos.com. My issue with ordering online is that the price is very high and you are not able to inspect the fruit before your purchase.

At Miramar Cash and Carry, they open up the box and let you inspect and swap out any fruit that you don’t want.

I was really hoping that we would already have the Jumbo Kesars grown in the Dominican Republic
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=JCnW56M77Yw

The Indian Mangos ordered online are irradiated.

Simon

[noochka1]

I've been checking out Mangozz.  I'd love to get some Mulgova, but I'm concerned that the fruit might be irradiated.  Do any of you know?

They are all irradiated as per USDA quarantine regulations.

Will you have Mulgova this year, Alex?  I know it's not the same as the Indian one....but I hear it's pretty darned good.

[Squam256]

I've been checking out Mangozz.  I'd love to get some Mulgova, but I'm concerned that the fruit might be irradiated.  Do any of you know?

They are all irradiated as per USDA quarantine regulations.

Will you have Mulgova this year, Alex?  I know it's not the same as the Indian one....but I hear it's pretty darned good.

Yes It’s  not the same and yes it’s excellent. I hope to have some even though the trees aren’t blooming well.

[ajeshcool47]

hi, the Spoth Indian season of mango  has already started, season will be ending in june...

[simon_grow]

I just called Miramar Cash and Carry to ask them when they are expecting their Indian Mangos and they said they may get them in about two weeks. This is not a guaranteed date but they should be showing up soon.

Simon

[swapnil.tailor]

Looks like kesar is going to be available this weekend in San Jose, CA. Called local Indian grocery and they confirmed.

[behlgarden]

I have found first batch of mangoes from India not to be good, not even 50% of what we get in middle or last shipment. They rush to get first batch out and I was disappointed in the past.

[simon_grow]

Yes Behl, I agree. The early season Fruit is not as good as mid to late season Fruit but it’s been a long wait and I’m eager to sample the first Indian Mangos of the season.

I picked up a case of Kesar for $35 and a case of Alphonso for $38 at Miramar Cash and Carry.





Simon

[behlgarden]

Simon, keen to know how they turn out. by the way, you waste your money on Alphonso here, in 10 years I am yet to be wowed,  they have bad internal breakdown and spongy tissue issue. you should try Bengalpali if they show up.

[ajeshcool47]

Two days back I got some Priyoor mangos, they are 75 percent ripe on the tree , will keep them indoor for one week till the skin turn to yellow.. One main speciality of this mango is that it is not at all sour in this condition..

[mangokothiyan]

Two days back I got some Priyoor mangos, they are 75 percent ripe on the tree , will keep them indoor for one week till the skin turn to yellow.. One main speciality of this mango is that it is not at all sour in this condition..

Ajesh,

Have heard so much about Priyoor mangoes, but by the time I visit Kerala in June/July, they are all gone. All I get to taste are Neelams.  

[simon_grow]

The Kesar Mangos are still mostly green and have not softened up yet. The Alphonso’s are yellowing up nicely. I cut up three fruit and they tasted good, not great. They have the classic Indian resin taste, especially near the skin and the flesh is a nice orange color. The ripe fruit doesn’t have much of a smell but once you cut the Fruit open, you can smell the Indian resin. The fruit tasted sweet even though the fruit only had a Brix of 16%. This is a pretty low reading and the later fruit should get much better in quality.





Simon

[RollingInTheWeeds]

I get my online Mangos from Mangozz.com I get the rest of my Mangos by growing them myself or from my friends orchards around San Diego.

Simon

you may be better off driving to Cerritos and buying from Indian stores. They always have Alphonso, Kesar, Bengalpali, and few others. However, Paki mangoes suck, for whatever reason they turn out over 50% fermented whether you buy from online or in store.

Little India is technically in Artesia, which neighbors Cerritos.  Pioneer Cash & Carry is a good place to pick them up when available

Ooh, thanks for sharing this info.  I've always relied on my local Indian grocery store; but this is the first I've ever hears of Kesar.  I'll definitely try it!

[ajeshcool47]

dear mangokothiyan, Priyoor is an early season variety,its season is March -April..there are a lot of Priyoor trees around Thrissur..Seedlings are true to type...thank u

[wslau]

I was told by a friend:  Pioneer Cash and Carry Artesia CA
$25 for Kesar (qty 10-12)..UTTM brand
$33 for Alphonso (don't know qty)

[simon_grow]

The price will drop as the main season Fruit gets harvested. You guys are already paying a lot less than San Diego. The Alphonso’s have been good. The fruit had wide shoulders and blunt filled in nose and the skin had yellow color.

The Kesars look like they’re about ready but went out with family today so I’ll sample them tomorrow. The Kesars appear not filled in and the skin of unripe fruit were all green with just the slightest yellow blush so it appears they were harvested prematurely.

Simon

[simon_grow]

I ate the first Kesar today and it actually tasted great. It only had a Brix reading of 17% but it tasted sweet and piney. I love the piney resin flavor on the flesh close to the skin but it can give you a tickle or cough on the back of your throat. I’m surprised how sweet it tastes with such an average Brix reading.




Simon

[simon_grow]

I just cut open three Alphonso Mangos and all three had some degree of spongy tissue and internal breakdown. This is a reminder why I took out my Alphonso trees.

Simon

[ajeshcool47]

Here is the Priyoor mango, ready to eat.. .

[JF]

Looking good Simon I think I’ll go get me a box

[Johnny Redland]

Ate an ataulfo mango today.  I finally understand what people mean by a 'chaulky' component to the taste.  no thank you. 

[JF]

Ate an ataulfo mango today.  I finally understand what people mean by a 'chaulky' component to the taste.  no thank you. 

Chalky is not bad if it’s flavorful like HK which can be quite chalky but ataulfo is bland horrible mango


Indian Kesar excellent brix between 18-21 slightly piney sweet complex bit of fiber better than HK

[ramv]

I am currently in Bangalore India. I picked up Banganapalli, Raspuri, Imam Pasand, Badami (a strain of Alfonso), Malgova and Mallika.

Malgova is excellent and consistently good. This IMO is the top pick for this area each year. . Raspuri is wonderful as well but a bit tart. Imam Pasand is outstanding, the best fruits beat everything else.  but quite inconsistent. Banganapalli is also excellent but even more inconsistent.

Alfonso is not very consistent at all. Mallika is good but it is still too early in the season.

Kesar is not here yet.

It is peak season for Sapota (Sapodilla). I tasted some of the sweetest fruits this season.

[RodneyS]

Hit up Pioneer Cash & Carry today and picked up a box of Uttam Kesar mangoes $25/box.  This will be the first time trying kesar







Also picked up a box of Soleil Manila mangoes $5/box

[Pasca]

Is Kesar the only type of Indian mango that is available at the store now?

[RodneyS]

I only saw Kesar and Manila

[Pasca]

I went to Pioneer Cash & Carry today and found some Alphonso mango.  They just came in on a shipment from India.  They are $35 for a box.  I am sure the cost of air shipment has something to do with he cost.  If you would like to try some Alphonso mango from India, come and pick up some before they run out.  The store is at the corner of 183rd and Pioneer.

[simon_grow]

I stopped by Miramar Cash and Carry today and they have a new Indian Mango variety I have never had before. The variety is called Rajapuri and it is a large mango. The fruit size actually varies a lot. They had boxes that contained 7 smaller fruit, 6 medium fruit or 5 large Fruit. I selected the box containing 5 larger fruit in the hopes that the larger fruit are better quality and more ripe. The biggest fruit in my box weighed exactly 1.5 lbs. the fruit were so large that they had to use special boxes that are higher to accommodate the large shoulders of the Fruit.





Rajapuri next to Kesar

They also had Banganpalli with 8 fruit per box.
Banganpalli and all three lined up





The Kesars are still small but they have more color and smell so hopefully they will be better than the last batch



Simon

[simon_grow]

I just cut into the Rajapuri Mango and wow, what an unexpectedly delicious mango. A friend of mine also purchased a box of Rajapuri and reported to me that they were ok but nothing special so I wasn’t expecting much from them. When I cut open the fruit, I was immediately hit with a Mango perfume that I’ve never experienced before. The smell is like a combination of Guava, Passionfruit, Peach and a tiny hint of Indian resin.

The fruit tasted very sweet, it tasted sweeter than the 19% Brix I got from the sample. This is a very complex flavored mango that I highly recommend if you need a break from regular mango flavored Mangos. This Mango was also extremely juicy. The cons are that the fruit was slightly bruised in shipping, one side of the Mango was flattened and softer than the rest of the Fruit. The fruit also had a slight amount of fiber, less than a Haden.

This is the first fruit I’ve eaten and I’m eager to see if the other fruit are as good. My friend may have selected the box with more but smaller fruit and perhaps those weren’t as ripe?
Here’s a picture

Simon

[barath]

Slightly off topic, but which Indian type mango cultivars seem to do the best for folks in SoCal a medium distance from the ocean (7-8 miles inland)?  (In terms of vigor, productivity, and disease resistance.)

[simon_grow]

I feel it has a lot to do with the rootstocks but in terms of what little we know about Indian varieties grown in roughly coastal inland areas, my friend has a productive Bombay and Kesar and Jumbo Kesar seem pretty disease resistant and sets a good amount of fruit. Another friend has Neelam and Mallika that is productive.

Simon

[barath]

I feel it has a lot to do with the rootstocks but in terms of what little we know about Indian varieties grown in roughly coastal inland areas, my friend has a productive Bombay and Kesar and Jumbo Kesar seem pretty disease resistant and sets a good amount of fruit. Another friend has Neelam and Mallika that is productive.

Simon

Interesting -- thanks!

[marklee]

I just cut into the Rajapuri Mango and wow, what an unexpectedly delicious mango. A friend of mine also purchased a box of Rajapuri and reported to me that they were ok but nothing special so I wasn’t expecting much from them. When I cut open the fruit, I was immediately hit with a Mango perfume that I’ve never experienced before. The smell is like a combination of Guava, Passionfruit, Peach and a tiny hint of Indian resin.

The fruit tasted very sweet, it tasted sweeter than the 19% Brix I got from the sample. This is a very complex flavored mango that I highly recommend if you need a break from regular mango flavored Mangos. This Mango was also extremely juicy. The cons are that the fruit was slightly bruised in shipping, one side of the Mango was flattened and softer than the rest of the Fruit. The fruit also had a slight amount of fiber, less than a Haden.

This is the first fruit I’ve eaten and I’m eager to see if the other fruit are as good. My friend may have selected the box with more but smaller fruit and perhaps those weren’t as ripe?
Here’s a picture

Simon

Simon,

I also got to try the Rajapuri mango, we ate it a little soft, but it was just as you described, I loved the piney taste. I have one more that is hard now so I'll try it at a different stage.

[simon_grow]

Mark, I’m glad you enjoyed the Rajapuri as well. I ate a few more Rajapuri Mangos and most of them were excellent as I described above except for the smallest fruit in the box. The smallest fruit was about the size of a commercial Haden and the color was dark green with no yellow blush. This fruit was obviously picked a bit early and lacked the complexity of flavor that the larger fruit with slight yellow blush had.

The smaller Rajapuri was a bit bland with no Guava, Passionfruit or peach flavor. It did have some slight Indian resin taste and was a bit sweet. This under ripe Rajapuri is reminiscent of Banganpalli which I find somewhat bland when compared to other Indian Mangos.

Simon

[mwambao]

Here in Toronto, a box of Alphonso or Kesar go for 9.99 a box

[simon_grow]

Here’s a description of Mulgova Mangos grown in India.

http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=28791.0

So far, the best Indian Mango I’ve had this year is Rajapuri.

Simon

[simon_grow]

Thanks to a good friend, I had the opportunity to sample an Imam Passand Mango grown here in SoCal. The Mango was pretty small and fairly round with noticeable lenticels. When I received the mango, it was very green and hard and I did not think it would ripen. After about a week, it softened up so I cut it open tonight. The uncut mango did not have much smell to it but as soon as I cut through the skin, I could immediately smell the unmistakable Indian resin.

The flesh color was yellow with a hint of orange and this mango had a Brix reading of 16%. The flesh had a texture that was slightly firm and slightly bouncy. This slightly bouncy texture is a sign to me that the fruit was picked before its prime. This mango had a sweet taste despite the low Brix reading because there was very little acid balance.

The main flavor was Indian resin in the Banganpalli class. I will have to sample a fully ripened fruit in order to give this variety a fair review. So far, I much prefer Kesar. Here are some pictures of Imam Passand grown in SoCal.



Simon