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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Red Finger Lime
« on: March 31, 2017, 02:36:41 AM »
I think its great that you found a finger lime in Colorado!  Now you have two, congratulations! Its always fun to find those kind of things. :)

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Where Has All The Oranges Gone
« on: March 31, 2017, 02:34:15 AM »
I was talking to someone who remembered smelling lemon blossoms while driving through southern California as a child.  I don't think that's as easy to find now. We were advised against buying a citrus orchard because of the uncertainty of being able to afford the water, because the citrus would not bring in enough to pay for its own water in southern California.   As well as development, water is a key factor here.  We are planting citrus, but most of it is unusual varieties. 8)

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Great clip! Now if we could get a quantity of the essential oil like that, we could use it for so many things!

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Wow! thanks for the heads up.   I agree Millet, I can't believe they waited that long to act, this is an emergency situation!

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I wonder how it will affect lemon growers.  Many citrus growers in California are already struggling with the low prices and in our area many orange groves have been left to die, partly its cost of water, but its the metrics of paying all of the costs and getting a high enough price to return even a small profit.

I agree with Sylvain, it is an issue for trade if there isn't a give and take.  Though some crops, like avocados, can also bring in pests, like thrips, which do scar the fruit.  We didn't have those ( I'm told by old time farmers) before fruit came in from certain countries that are not as careful as California has become.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Thanks To US Customs Office
« on: March 31, 2017, 02:10:16 AM »
Good for those dogs!  I was at the Vet today and read that dogs only have about 1500 taste buds, and humans have about 9000.  I guess those dogs are really talented discerning the difference between such a strong odor (limes) and the pot. Maybe they have extra olfactory sensory power that makes up for their limited taste bud supply.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Kishus
« on: March 31, 2017, 02:03:37 AM »
We have a few trees and we love the fruit, I agree, the sweetest I have tasted.  They are very small, and tend to be soft and fragile. It might be those two things that make them difficult to manage for the commercial market.   Consumers will have to be educated about the superior taste.

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Does anyone know of a company selling trees to the home garden market?   That would be a rival for attention with the Zaiger fruit trees.  I'd love to have one or more, imagine having a supply of that fruit.  It would be an attention getter at a Farmer's market.  Probably make fantastic dried slices too, peels and all.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Leaf Drop Period
« on: March 30, 2017, 09:26:06 PM »
Similar thing happened to one of my outside navel orange trees.  We were away for a week and a half and when we returned it had dropped a lot of leaves.   Weird, because there was a huge rainstorm, about three inches so we did not water, I could not believe how the tree went from beautiful and lush looking to dried out branches with leaf drop so fast.  (Maybe too much water?) We were selling the house so I don't know what its doing now, but it kind of scared me, that there was some disease factor going on. a grapefruit nearby also had some leaf drop, but not as severe. You might be right Millet about the bloom time effect but this tree has never done this before.

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Now that is amazing, growing in those temps!

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: So what is a Tangerine?
« on: March 30, 2017, 09:13:18 PM »
Appreciate the clarification about the word "tangerine".  So we should not use it?  I want to be accurate when I describe fruit varieties. :)

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Harvested today
« on: March 30, 2017, 09:11:02 PM »
Beautiful!  I love the striped Minneolas! So elegant looking.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Red Navel
« on: March 30, 2017, 09:08:31 PM »
Galka, that is an interesting story about the one odd fruit on your tree, keep us posted, it sounds like you have a new variety.  I've read that citrus tends to be influenced by other citrus.  Those growing near each other can develop traits of other types. Maybe at the nursery your tree was growing near something that influenced its development. There is a variety called "Honey Sweet" that someone was offering for sale.

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Wow! that's great news.   I have been thinking that these varieties will make meals more interesting.   I've really enjoyed having blood orange juice and pulp in "mocktails". I can add a few ice cubes of blood orange juice to water or sparkling water and make it last longer than the fruit does.  I have blood orange marmalade on the list of things to do this year, I had better get some more of them while I can.  Trader Joes has had some in lately.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: First Grapefruit
« on: March 30, 2017, 08:48:23 PM »
Thanks for sharing your experience! Highlights how patient gardeners are!  Glad to hear your grapefruit is doing well. :D

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Its sometimes only by reading these committee reports that you know there is anything going on.  I was concerned by your post because we grow and sell citrus here, and transport it ourselves.  I have not seen anything even at the local Farm Bureau about this, so I missed it.  I am glad that the California department of Food and Ag are taking it seriously because I've seen horror stories about what's happening in Florida. ( For small farmers.) Thanks for your post, I need to keep up with the Ag dept posts so I can be aware.  I also need to be up to date as an organic farmer on what they are spraying, because if they don't have an organic option they can ruin my careful efforts to be operating organically.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Hass avocado - How hot is to hot?
« on: March 30, 2017, 08:34:06 PM »
Hi, from Hass avocado territory in southern California.  We had quite a problem with the weather being hot ( 110-115 F)( 40-46C) last year during the summer. That was way too hot for them.  The trees all got scorched and some of them had severe burns to leaves and branch tissue.  That takes time to recover from.  California is also dealing with the smallest crop in their history due to a warm, dry spell when the flowers should have been pollinating each other.  So we are watching the trees recover and it might take a year or more.  A small tree may take up to 8 years to bear fruit if its from a seed.  Our Hass trees are all rootstock of one variety with a grafted top of the Hass variety.   If you have one flower, give it more time, your leaves look great, so the tree is growing. The soil is very important, and the tree will do best if it has room for the small roots in the top 8 inches to 11/2 feet of soil can freely soak up nutrients, that means lots of leaf litter and mulch. Now, to get fruit, you need lots of flowers, and if you have a "B" cultivar  ( Fuerte, Ettinger, Zutano, are examples) than you will have more of a chance to have fruit.  Avocado flowers open up for a short time as female, then close and open up as male. Hass is an "A" variety. if you get the "B" variety, their flowers will be male when the Hass flowers are female. That's more opportunity for pollination. When you have flowers, don't let the air around the tree dry out too much, that will give the pollen the moisture it needs to "stick". I wish you well, but as Mike T says, the variety may not do well in your area.  Keep trying for what you want though, because your picture shows a healthy young tree so you are doing a good job so far.  If you can shade them during heat spells it might work.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Introduce Yourself
« on: March 30, 2017, 07:55:13 PM »
Hi Everyone,
Retired Science teacher now an organic farmer. Small farm in Valley Center 9b inland unincorporated San Diego county.  Trying to develop a business that will feed others and support ourselves as we age.   Love to work with the soil and watch the changes all around, really thrilling to find a hawk, snake or a coyote.  Just found this forum and really excited! I learn so much from other kind and dedicated people sharing what they love. I wish I would have seen this 5 years ago when I started growing dragon fruit, I'm sure I would have missed a lot of errors made because I did not know better, but I learned a lot that way too. Thanks to those who set the forum up, its the best way to keep learning, seeing what others are doing and trying new things.  Look forward to reading through all of the posts.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Yuzu & Sudachi
« on: March 30, 2017, 01:09:46 PM »
I have several Yuzu trees. I am growing them for Farmers Markets.  They take time to establish, mine looked awful at first, dropped all of their leaves and then grew a new set and took off.  They are growing where other citrus doesn't do well, in a low lying area, that's a "cold sink".  They also can tolerate poor soil.  I like them squeezed in water they way you would a lemon. They are great in "mocktails" ( non alcoholic mixed drinks).  They add a nice zing to stir frys, and both the peel and juice is nice added to pastry dough and filling.  I am looking forward to having enough to distill for the essential oil this year. The oil can be an ingredient in fragrances and a flavoring. They are not for everyone, but I see a market for them, and fresh yuzu juice has to beat that tin I saw in the market the other day! ;)

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I just relocated from there and am sorry to hear this.   It was a real shame to see all of the fruit falling in yards across the valley and going to waste.  Probably helped increase fruit fly reproduction too, because people just leave it to rot on the tree and the ground.  The efforts to harvest the fruit and donate it to food pantries was a good idea and helped improve the diet of people it was donated to.  I hope they find a way to address the medfly problem.

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Thanks for this article, really nice to hear about the young farmer taking a grapefruit and squeezing it on his grandfather's grave, that's real dedication and respect to his roots.   We used to eat white grapefruit growing up, everyone put sugar on it, and I didn't like the sugar part. Farmers are telling me that people here in So Cal are asking for white grapefruit at Farmers Markets.

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Found more details about the intent and other info like spraying in particular areas and organic options here: https://www.cdfa.ca.gov/citruscommittee/docs/minutes/2016/CPDPC-Minutes-11-9-2016-final.pdf

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