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Somewhat related...collected a lot of pollen from my soursop and dream atemoya this morning and decided to pollinate a few soursop flowers with dream pollen and vice versa.  Any chance these get successfully pollinated?

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Any reasons this can't be a secure site?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2021 Mango Season (Florida)
« on: January 07, 2021, 10:41:04 PM »
Curious...is #11 grafted here or a seedling from Jamaica?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: South Florida is anything fruiting now..?
« on: December 17, 2020, 12:27:45 PM »
Lots of sapodilla, avocado, june plum, and soursop just starting up.

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One word of warning about Malay apple, it seems like the common nursery stock in Florida (at least from PIN) is not that great.
I had 3 planted so far, one fruit after 8 years (only year to fruit) it been there for like 15 years at this point
I also have one planted at my current house since 2014 and no flowers yet.

Seems like everyone I know who bring seeds from "back home" has much better success with the quality fruit and precocity

Yup I second this, my tree is a seedling of a tree grown from seed brought from Jamaica. Pretty much everyone I know who has trees that do well (growth and fruiting) were grown from seeds directly obtained from Jamaica, Trinidad or other Caribbean islands, or seedlings from these trees. That's anecdotal though and just my experience, I'm sure there are great successes with grafted varieties or seeds sourced from other regions.

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Yup growing one as well (from seed), pretty small though. As said above they grow easily here in S. Fl, and I have had some excellent  locally grown fruit... of course not as good as those grown in Jamaica.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Annona reticulata
« on: October 27, 2020, 07:05:02 PM »
Also interested in some thoughts from experienced reticulata growers, esp for South Florida conditions.

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I also live near a canal with prolific iguanas, and they don't touch any fruit (mango, lychee, sapodilla, sweetsop, atemoya, june plum) they do love to chomp my scotch bonnet pepper leaves though, other than that they just graze on little weeds and shoots on the lawn, and some flowers in the larger flowering trees.

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Oh, just realized you guys are in VA, so it's probably a little easier down here to germinate with little comparable effort.

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I always wonder if people overthink this...for me its soil (if I'm tracking it closely) or just scattering in mulch/compost under my big lychee and forgetting about it has had practically 100% success rate for me, be it mango, annona, citrus, lychee, any seeds really...many times it's unintentional success from eating fruit and discarding seeds on thre mulch as i walk around the yard.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sugar apple grafting
« on: July 21, 2020, 05:47:52 PM »
Just grafted dream on SA and SA on dream...will update if they take.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Annona Pollinating Question
« on: June 10, 2020, 09:07:20 PM »
The are called Nitiludid beetles. They are the primary pollinators of anonnas but hand pollination produces much better quality fruits. I had two large Sugar Apples  trees in Coral Springs that regularly produced over 100 larges sized fruits every year. I would remove most of the naturally pollinated fruits since they were too small or poorly pollinated.
did those SA trees have issues with chalcid wasps and if so how did you manage it? I'm
about to lose an entire crop of SA to that. I have Dream tree right next to it, so close their branches are tangled,  that's loaded with fruit, and (crosses fingers) not a single fruit was affected.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Potted atemoya production
« on: June 04, 2020, 07:20:28 PM »
I have a potted Dream that more or less fits that description..get about 25-30 fruit a year

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Reviews
« on: May 31, 2020, 03:27:13 PM »
here's something different for a review for my Jamaicans out there (mango snobs need not reply :) )!
Just got a handful of "Sweetie Come Brush Mi" from South Dade..
Man what a bust of flavor and juciness in these tiny little gems..
Haven't had these in years! First time I've ever had some grown in Fl.




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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Reviews
« on: May 30, 2020, 09:15:21 PM »
Imam Pasand is fantastic...best mango in my yard 5th season in a row and once again my favorite out of anything I've tried elsewhere..

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Hey anyone know any where in S. FL where I can get a 3 gal Custard Apple tree? I'm not too particular about variety. Pine Island nursery wont have any until the early fall, and Excalibur doesn't have.

Or does anyone have any scions to sell and ship?

Thanks!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lychee Bloom 2020
« on: March 03, 2020, 06:56:22 PM »
Noticed the same in my yard the last couple years..bees don't come out for mango blooms (houseflies are the main pollinators for mango) but appear in abundance for lychee blooms.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lychee Bloom 2020
« on: March 03, 2020, 04:17:42 PM »
Noticing a lot of new blooms starting now about 6 weeks after the first set of blooms...must have been the big cold snap a few weeks back?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2020 Mango Season (Florida)
« on: February 29, 2020, 10:07:24 AM »
Seeing a lot of new blooms driving around s. FL

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It's really come along in a year. Still not sure how long it'll be before I get fruit. Can you guys make a guess based how much foliage there is how long it will probably be to fruit? 1-2 years?
yeah that seems to be growing slowly

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2020 Mango Season (Florida)
« on: February 25, 2020, 09:14:58 AM »
Looks like next Thursday to Sunday we may get 4 pretty chilly nights esp for late feb/early March ...upper 40s. What are the chances of 3rd bloom a few weeks after the cool stretch?

I'm also on second bloom for my trees like many here, and for one well established NDM tree in particular, I hoping for a 3rd as the first two blooms only covered about a 3rd of the tree.

Decent possibility there will be some bloom response on stems that weren’t aged enough for the first two waves. The more nights under 60F, the more greater the response.

We’re seeing plenty of what you’re describing as well: partial blooms rather than full on some varieties. We’re even seeing vegetative growth on a number of things that took too long to initiate.

Alex what is the reason for partial blooms ? My Maha is doing that .
Thanks Ed

Inadequate cold stimulus from our failing winters.

Gonna be interesting to see what will come from  this upcoming late season genuine cold spell

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2020 Mango Season (Florida)
« on: February 24, 2020, 11:47:20 PM »
Good stuff I had a similar idea here a few years back about an project to introduce the Caribbean varieties to south FL for many of the same reasons, for the diaspora esp the second and third generations to know some of the fruit from their heritage. Keep it up!

Most of the varieties from the Caribbean suck. I hope my children and grandchildren aren't stuck eating that garbage but can instead feast on some of the much better tasting varieties that can be found in South Florida.
ok

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2020 Mango Season (Florida)
« on: February 24, 2020, 05:08:52 PM »
Whats up Sayyad,  the pickering is doing great at the garden by the way. Hope all is well brother.

I have that community garden in Miramar I told you about and Miramar is an extremely caribbean community so they keep us honest lol.
Guyana Trinidad and Jamaica all have an influx of ancestory from India so a lot of their resources and lingo get mixed up. 
I wouldnt doubt the confusion but its one of my projects for this year is to clear that up. 

Buxton Spice is Black Spice and Black Spice is whats its called by the people.  But there is a much sweeter mango called the Blackie. I have Black Spice and the sap smells bland compared to what this Blackie seedling trees smell like. Theres 3.

The multiple bearing thing is actually something a lot of caribbean varieties do.  Remember in the caribbean they actually like the black spots and sap running.  They selected seedlings for yield and flavor back then.  Aesthetics is a lie to many folks from the caribbean 😏

All in all 2 trees bearing ripe fruit in February is nuts. 
But yea definitely not Black Spice.  Now I have another guy with the hairy mango which is what I believe many Jamaicans call Blackie because they actually look the same other than the fact that the Hairy Mango is smaller.

So to be clear blackie in Guyana is not the blackie I know from Jamaica?

Sidenote- Miramar resident here,  very cool about the community garden I heard about it a few years back but thought it was only about veggies...is that the same City run community garden?

Im working on figuring this all out lol.  The number 11 is in the mix too.  No its not run by the city.  Its a private garden a buddy of mine Hans started and he asked me to join him and since then we've loaded the place up. 

We'll be hosting mango tastings and providing space for a small farmers market/festival soon.  The goal is community and to raise awareness of the land and bring the city back to the roots.  Its tough because its in a rough pocket of Miramar so balancing all the stuff that comes with that and trying to focus on growing for the community is complicated.  I've had to scare off bad people and sometimes it becomes a headache but what can you do...

I dont care though because trees have always been bigger than people.  Ive met some really good people here like this Guyanese senior citizen and the community needs help.  Hans took it to heart and Ive made it my passion to watch over it.  Its not easy but the Honeymation Mango seed will be pulled from this ground one day.  Honeymations Miramar Community Garden.









First Honeymation Tree: Super Julie/Orange Sherbet/Wester(EdwardxEarle Carabao)

Neelam & Francique are the only trees fruiting on site this 1st season.
Soon when I get things organized I'll be inviting everyone from here. 






Good stuff I had a similar idea here a few years back about an project to introduce the Caribbean varieties to south FL for many of the same reasons, for the diaspora esp the second and third generations to know some of the fruit from their heritage. Keep it up!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 2020 Mango Season (Florida)
« on: February 24, 2020, 02:35:31 PM »
Whats up Sayyad,  the pickering is doing great at the garden by the way. Hope all is well brother.

I have that community garden in Miramar I told you about and Miramar is an extremely caribbean community so they keep us honest lol.
Guyana Trinidad and Jamaica all have an influx of ancestory from India so a lot of their resources and lingo get mixed up. 
I wouldnt doubt the confusion but its one of my projects for this year is to clear that up. 

Buxton Spice is Black Spice and Black Spice is whats its called by the people.  But there is a much sweeter mango called the Blackie. I have Black Spice and the sap smells bland compared to what this Blackie seedling trees smell like. Theres 3.

The multiple bearing thing is actually something a lot of caribbean varieties do.  Remember in the caribbean they actually like the black spots and sap running.  They selected seedlings for yield and flavor back then.  Aesthetics is a lie to many folks from the caribbean 😏

All in all 2 trees bearing ripe fruit in February is nuts. 
But yea definitely not Black Spice.  Now I have another guy with the hairy mango which is what I believe many Jamaicans call Blackie because they actually look the same other than the fact that the Hairy Mango is smaller.

So to be clear blackie in Guyana is not the blackie I know from Jamaica?

Sidenote- Miramar resident here,  very cool about the community garden I heard about it a few years back but thought it was only about veggies...is that the same City run community garden?

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Please put me down for a grafted tree whenever they're ready.

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