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Best Cherimoya for SWFL?
« on: January 29, 2018, 06:11:00 PM »
 I am in zone 10 B. I have read the cherimoyas don't grow well in this area. Is there one that will grow well in this area and produce good fruit? Thank you
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Re: Best Cherimoya for SWFL?
« Reply #1 on: January 29, 2018, 07:40:23 PM »
I am in zone 10 B. I have read the cherimoyas don't grow well in this area. Is there one that will grow well in this area and produce good fruit? Thank you
So far, no.  It hasn't been discovered yet.  You could try atemoya.
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Re: Best Cherimoya for SWFL?
« Reply #2 on: January 29, 2018, 07:48:22 PM »
There is a dream cherimoya that does well here. Some people argue it is
an atemoya but the original source calls it a cherimoya? also there is a forum
member selling a low chill cherimoya seeds

http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=22225.0

I got seeds and currently have two seedlings growing. Recently he posted a link
to the weather and it is very similar to your weather. Check out those pictures it
looks amazing
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Re: Best Cherimoya for SWFL?
« Reply #3 on: January 29, 2018, 08:01:26 PM »
I have looked into this and what I have heard so far is that there is none.
I will see if there is new information generated from your post.

What I understand is that it will grow, but will not successfully bring fruit to ripeness. I am told you may bet fruit mature enough to give seeds. 

I have planted a few but the objective is to use them as seedling for grafting.

Meanwhile, you may consider atemoya.  I understand there are some outstanding options but I am not speaking from experience, at least not yet :).





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Re: Best Cherimoya for SWFL?
« Reply #4 on: January 29, 2018, 10:39:03 PM »
Well, Y'all are NOT telling me what I want to hear LOL. 

If anyone has an Atemoya suggestion then, I would appreciate it.  I do have a custard apple that was given to me very stressed, I hope it survives.

Thanks for the input, it is appreciated.
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Re: Best Cherimoya for SWFL?
« Reply #5 on: January 29, 2018, 10:44:32 PM »
Well I depend heavily on UF for advice with plants.  Here is what they have to say:

There are numerous atemoya varieties; however, few have been critically evaluated for an extended period of time. The most satisfactory variety under Florida conditions has been 'Gefner', which does not require hand pollination and produces fruit of good quality. Fruit production of 'Page' is good but fruit tends to split on the tree at maturity. 'African Pride' ('Kaller') and 'Bradley' usually produce few fruit without hand pollination. 'African Pride' fruit may develop internal disorders upon ripening. Other varieties such as 'Bernitski', 'Caves', 'Chirimoriñon A', 'Chirimoriñon B' and 'Chirimoriñon C', 'Hette', 'Island Gem', 'Lindstrom', 'Kabri', 'Malali', 'Malamud', 'Mammoth' ('Pink Mammoth'), 'Priestly', and 'Stermer' have not proven viable for commercial production. The selection of superior varieties in the future is highly possible due to the numerous seedlings that are under evaluation in public and private collections.

So, it looks like a Gefner is what I'll be looking for, unless I hear differently on here.
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Re: Best Cherimoya for SWFL?
« Reply #6 on: January 30, 2018, 09:11:23 AM »
I'd add Lisa, Dream, and PPC to the list too.
As people in Florida have had success with these so far.

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Re: Best Cherimoya for SWFL?
« Reply #7 on: January 30, 2018, 09:56:51 AM »
I'd add Lisa, Dream, and PPC to the list too.
As people in Florida have had success with these so far.

Thank you Sayid. Do you by chance still have that white sapote?  I'm actively looking for one. Seedling I assume?
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Re: Best Cherimoya for SWFL?
« Reply #8 on: January 30, 2018, 09:59:09 AM »
I'd add Lisa, Dream, and PPC to the list too.
As people in Florida have had success with these so far.

Thank you Sayid. Do you by chance still have that white sapote?  I'm actively looking for one. Seedling I assume?

Sorry, no longer have it.
They get severely root bound so I decided to mulch it.

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Re: Best Cherimoya for SWFL?
« Reply #9 on: January 30, 2018, 10:00:28 AM »
Geffner is growing well for me, no flowers yet. Others tell me it does well in South FL and tastes very good. Those growing in other areas tend to have less praise for Geffner.

I'm going to graft cumbe to it this Spring to see how it does.

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Re: Best Cherimoya for SWFL?
« Reply #10 on: January 30, 2018, 10:59:33 AM »
Geffner is growing well for me, no flowers yet. Others tell me it does well in South FL and tastes very good. Those growing in other areas tend to have less praise for Geffner.

I'm going to graft cumbe to it this Spring to see how it does.

Thanks to both of you, Roblack, where did you get your Geffner?
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Re: Best Cherimoya for SWFL?
« Reply #11 on: January 30, 2018, 12:02:14 PM »
Picked up from from Pine Island Nursery.

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Re: Best Cherimoya for SWFL?
« Reply #12 on: January 30, 2018, 12:17:20 PM »
One more vote for Dream! It's a great fruit that can be grown in FL. I have a couple of trees that I am waiting on to fruit, but I tried the fruit at Flying Fox Fruits  couple years ago and it blows away the other FL Annona I have tried.
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Re: Best Cherimoya for SWFL?
« Reply #13 on: January 30, 2018, 01:18:49 PM »
Thank you all.  I'm willing to take a chance on a Dream.  Anyone know where I can find one?
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Re: Best Cherimoya for SWFL?
« Reply #14 on: January 30, 2018, 01:29:58 PM »
Thank you all.  I'm willing to take a chance on a Dream.  Anyone know where I can find one?
Wayne Clifton in Bradenton.
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Re: Best Cherimoya for SWFL?
« Reply #15 on: January 30, 2018, 02:14:17 PM »
You might want to try Illama and Rollinia as others in the same family more suited for your area.

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Re: Best Cherimoya for SWFL?
« Reply #16 on: January 30, 2018, 08:26:28 PM »
I got my dream from forum member Dom. He's closer then Wayne to you,
I have dream scions if you have rootstock? Also Fruitscapes may or will have dream
available. Steve told me Tim is better then dream and they should have Tim
available also.
 

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Re: Best Cherimoya for SWFL?
« Reply #17 on: January 30, 2018, 08:44:28 PM »
Steve told me Tim is better then dream and they should have Tim
available also.
So Tim is an atemoya?
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Re: Best Cherimoya for SWFL?
« Reply #18 on: January 30, 2018, 09:11:24 PM »
Steve told me Tim is better then dream and they should have Tim
available also.
So Tim is an atemoya?

http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=25013.msg293855#msg293855

I hope this year to have my first fruit on both the dream and Tim and I get to compare them?

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Re: Best Cherimoya for SWFL?
« Reply #19 on: January 30, 2018, 10:27:34 PM »
Cherimoyas don’t fruit in Florida. Dream is an atemoya here are pix of top tier moyas

Pierce


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Re: Best Cherimoya for SWFL?
« Reply #20 on: January 31, 2018, 12:10:41 PM »
Cherimoya grafted on Soursop . Holualoa, Hawaii
I would have to confirm flowers or fruit with the gentleman . Soursop and Breadfruit fruit at his location.


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Re: Best Cherimoya for SWFL?
« Reply #21 on: January 31, 2018, 04:58:51 PM »
Well, Y'all are NOT telling me what I want to hear LOL. 

If anyone has an Atemoya suggestion then, I would appreciate it.  I do have a custard apple that was given to me very stressed, I hope it survives.

Thanks for the input, it is appreciated.

If you can get your arms around Hillary White, that would be fantastic. I heard its as creamy and delicious as Pierce Cherimoya.

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Re: Best Cherimoya for SWFL?
« Reply #22 on: January 31, 2018, 10:38:56 PM »
Well, Y'all are NOT telling me what I want to hear LOL. 

If anyone has an Atemoya suggestion then, I would appreciate it.  I do have a custard apple that was given to me very stressed, I hope it survives.

Thanks for the input, it is appreciated.

If you can get your arms around Hillary White, that would be fantastic. I heard its as creamy and delicious as Pierce Cherimoya.

I'd hit up Steve at Fruitscapes, I believe he has Hillary White as well as Tim.
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Re: Best Cherimoya for SWFL?
« Reply #23 on: January 31, 2018, 11:22:41 PM »
I wonder why he doesn't have a pix of Hilary White in his webpage.....is he waiting for me to post it so he can steal it?

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Re: Best Cherimoya for SWFL?
« Reply #24 on: January 31, 2018, 11:48:40 PM »
I was able to taste hillary white &la habra blanc. Tastes so good.

However, JF wont let me post the photo of the fruits for fear of photo theft.