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Title: Looking For - Mango scions
Post by: Tony714 on February 10, 2021, 03:26:24 PM

Hi,


I know it's early, but i want to know the earliest they are available.  i can't wait until August. 
i m looking for Sweet Tart, Keitt and NDM/NDM4.  I hope someone may able help.

thanks,
tony

Title: Re: Looking For - Mango scions
Post by: bsbullie on February 11, 2021, 07:23:42 AM

From Florida,  March/April at the earliest.

Title: Re: Looking For - Mango scions
Post by: Tony714 on February 11, 2021, 11:12:48 AM

Great to know.  That's what i thought.   2 more weeks til March, it will be warmer too.  I am starting early to make sure i have enough time to prepare my young trees and also whoever selling have time to prepare scions.   

Title: Re: Looking For - Mango scions
Post by: Veggieman01 on February 11, 2021, 01:47:11 PM

all my trees are literally covered in flowers its my understanding that flowers on a mango isnt good graft wood i could be wrong

Title: Re: Looking For - Mango scions
Post by: bsbullie on February 11, 2021, 02:10:44 PM

Quote from: Tony714 on February 11, 2021, 11:12:48 AM

Great to know.  That's what i thought.   2 more weeks til March, it will be warmer too.  I am starting early to make sure i have enough time to prepare my young trees and also whoever selling have time to prepare scions.

Maech/April would only work for harvesting if the trees are not in bloom.  As stated above, with our cold spells, most trees are in heavy bloom.

I would also check with the Cali boys.  I dont think March/April would even be a good time for you to graft. 

Title: Re: Looking For - Mango scions
Post by: Johnny Eat Fruit on February 11, 2021, 03:41:40 PM

Unless you have a greenhouse grafting mango scions outdoors in March/April is a Complete waste of time in So Calif. Already tried it and had less than a 5% success rate.

In my greenhouse last year my mango grafting success rate was over 50% in April but the greenhouse temperatures are 20-30 degrees higher than the outdoor temperatures.

In our Temprate climate your greatest chance of success outdoors for grafting in July-August.

Good Luck.

Johnny

Title: Re: Looking For - Mango scions
Post by: Tony714 on February 11, 2021, 07:07:11 PM

another great to know guys.   

Johnny -  did you graft on young or old tree?  does young tree make any different?

Title: Re: Looking For - Mango scions
Post by: Johnny Eat Fruit on February 11, 2021, 07:48:29 PM

Mango trees are the most difficult subtropical fruit trees to grow and graft in coastal So Calif. Our clime here is marginal due to the lower heat hours and cooler winter relative to Florida.

There are many variables and success growing mangos can be elusive long term. You can read my previous threads on the subject and info covered by Simon.

Growing Mango Trees is a long-term proposition (5-10 years) and a lot of things have to go right for success.

Johnny

Title: Re: Looking For - Mango scions
Post by: Tony714 on February 12, 2021, 09:47:48 AM

thank you Johnny for your pointer.  I'll look for that thread .

Title: Re: Looking For - Mango scions
Post by: spaugh on February 12, 2021, 01:58:36 PM

Tony, grafting in June seems to give good success on mangos for me.  Theres a big difference in climates between a beach town and an inland area in socal.  By July and August the heat and low humidity cause grafts to fail after they push through the tape here.   If you live closer to the ocean, you should probably wait until 4th of July at least to graft mangos.  We really don't get that hot summer weather until around July. 

Title: Re: Looking For - Mango scions
Post by: Tony714 on February 13, 2021, 12:54:30 PM

I think humility is OK because I'm 4 miles from ocean and I have pond in my backyard.  My brother and sister have matured 8-10yrs) manila trees.  They want to graft something else on them too.  They are about 15 miles away from ocean.

Thanks Brad for rips
Tony

Title: Re: Looking For - Mango scions
Post by: Seanny on February 22, 2021, 10:34:24 PM

Mango is an evergreen tree.
We can graft it any time except during month with frost.
Use veneer with nurse leaf.

(https://i.postimg.cc/bSYpJfBc/5-B0-DEF8-B-B7-C1-45-E4-9-B29-200-BA58-A4357.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bSYpJfBc)

(https://i.postimg.cc/R6Lv4ZGL/7-EB710-D3-6733-4-F00-96-D6-07-B6019612-FD.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/R6Lv4ZGL)

These were grafted 2/28/2020 in FV.
Scions were 1 node each, with nurse leaf.
Removed 1/2 of leaf and bagged with a bit of water.

Both grafts are flowering.
You should graft now if you have scions.

Title: Re: Looking For - Mango scions
Post by: Orkine on February 22, 2021, 11:03:36 PM

You may have to harvest scions locally.  Most folks who ship don't leave any leafs on at least not the ones who I have secured scions from.

Title: Re: Looking For - Mango scions
Post by: Seanny on February 22, 2021, 11:49:31 PM

Oops
Pictures say 1/28

Title: Re: Looking For - Mango scions
Post by: Viraldonutz on March 15, 2021, 11:46:01 PM

Quote from: Seanny on February 22, 2021, 10:34:24 PM

Mango is an evergreen tree.
We can graft it any time except during month with frost.
Use veneer with nurse leaf.

(https://i.postimg.cc/bSYpJfBc/5-B0-DEF8-B-B7-C1-45-E4-9-B29-200-BA58-A4357.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/bSYpJfBc)

(https://i.postimg.cc/R6Lv4ZGL/7-EB710-D3-6733-4-F00-96-D6-07-B6019612-FD.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/R6Lv4ZGL)

These were grafted 2/28/2020 in FV.
Scions were 1 node each, with nurse leaf.
Removed 1/2 of leaf and bagged with a bit of water.

Both grafts are flowering.
You should graft now if you have scions.

Whoa... this seems like a black diamond move.  Can you explain the concept of "nurse leaf" a bit better?