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Has anyone planted citrus maxima in pluvial tropical forests with rain >2000mm and no dry season? Consortiums with other plants? How many harvests per year? Pruning techniques and scheduling? Thanks!
We have those in Malaysia an equatorial country with no dry season.lots of fruit and you'll get bored .btw you might want to get the red fleshed variety since it's way more sweeter than the white flesh

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango alongside Durian
« on: July 18, 2022, 01:39:25 AM »
What’s up TFF.
In Malaysia outside of Perlis and northern Kedah mangoes don't seem to grow well. You can still find some small farms that grow mangoes outside of those two states and the mangoes grown are mostly chokonan mangoes from thailand.those farms can be found in Malacca and negeri sembilan and central sarawak.in Kedah and Perlis it's harummanis.also mangoes unlike durian are grown in flat terrains.over all mangoes seem to grow well in urban areas and coastal areas in Malaysia .in urban areas trees seem to flower well when being grown next to an asphalt road or concrete sidewalks.i wonder it could be the heat emitting from the ground

Which part of Malaysia do you live in?  How do you rate Harumanis?  I saw trees with flowers in urban areas. Heat won’t trigger mango flowering but the asphalt and concrete might be restricting water.
I'm in Sarawak in a district called bau about 1 hour from kuching.harummanis is a great mango and it's exported to japan.it only fruits well in Perlis and northern Kedah.theres a short dry season starting from December to February there which is abnormal and unlike other region in malaysia.just Google  alor star and check the annual rainfall .here in Kuching Sarawak the lowest rainfall is in July with 120mm of rainfall and still wet for mangoes.also mangoes look horrible in my hometown and in Kuching in some of those urban areas it blooms better than in bau

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango alongside Durian
« on: July 15, 2022, 04:42:06 AM »
Hey mate here where Iam in australia just over 16 degrees south mango and durian are grown next to each other.  However in my area its a little too wet for ideal conditions for mango Average 3000mm a year we do however get a decent dry season in a typical year which works for mangoes and durian flowering.  If you go up in elevation from here mangoes are grown on large commercial scale it is much drier and cooler in this location.

I would think penang is way to hot year round to grow mangoes decently certainly the premium location for durian growing though.  Durian are also irrigated here generally even though we get 3000mm a year of rain.
No idea what you meant by too hot to grow mangoes in Penang.maybe you meant it's too wet to grow mangoes.penang is too wet for mangoes and also the fact durians are mostly grown in hilly places whereas mangoes flat terrain.in Malaysia mango farms I notice it's a monoculture farm unlike durian orchards with other trees being grown

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango alongside Durian
« on: July 15, 2022, 04:35:03 AM »
What’s up TFF.
In Malaysia outside of Perlis and northern Kedah mangoes don't seem to grow well. You can still find some small farms that grow mangoes outside of those two states and the mangoes grown are mostly chokonan mangoes from thailand.those farms can be found in Malacca and negeri sembilan and central sarawak.in Kedah and Perlis it's harummanis.also mangoes unlike durian are grown in flat terrains.over all mangoes seem to grow well in urban areas and coastal areas in Malaysia .in urban areas trees seem to flower well when being grown next to an asphalt road or concrete sidewalks.i wonder it could be the heat emitting from the ground

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arvind,
thanks for the info on fruit flies. I think if the tree is kept short a big bag could go over the whole big bunch if it have the same habit as p. pinnata. Could also deter fruit bats.

Also couldn't this one be crossed with the purple p. pinnata to make an even bigger purple sweet matoa/taun fruit?!
Yes it can be crossed with purple one.not sure what colour or how the fruit will look like.seed grown plants here have different fruit colours from the parent trees.as keeping the tree compact well it's possible but this plant is fast grower and and needs frequent pruning.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Madrono de monte
« on: October 21, 2021, 09:52:42 PM »
Well I suppose I can give the plant a try.currently looking for some superior form of garcinias to plant

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Looked at the fruits next to the coke, I think they are around 7-10cm in diameter which makes me wonder if they are somewhat related to Han Sen's Pacific Lychee as in the pics below:




This variant of Fijian longan always has worms in it.the soft rind makes it susceptible to fruit flies .the hard shelled variety doesn't have this problem.the fact that grafted and marcotted fijian longans doesn't seem to exist in Malaysia makes it unworthy to cultivate this variant in my opinion since it's almost impossible to bagged all the fruits on such a large tree

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Madrono lindero
« on: October 20, 2021, 08:22:15 PM »
Wish I could get my hands on those seeds .btw how big is the tree Jim ,now it's more than 10 years?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My garden today
« on: October 20, 2021, 11:23:29 AM »
It's a plantain.we used it to make fried fritter and banana chips

Ah ok thank you! I saw a banana one time planted at a house/garden center in Liberia Costa Rica that had bananas the size of plantains and maybe 10-15 hands per raceme. I thought it could be the one you have.
What you saw could be a plaintain I suppose.Did you asked the owner whether it should be eaten fresh or cooked?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Madrono lindero
« on: October 20, 2021, 10:01:02 AM »
I would say this species is one of the best Ecuadorian members of the genus to try. SE Asian lowland tropics has a different climate from the western Amazon especially where a little altitude is involved even if latitudes roughly correspond.
Do you cultivate this species sir?if so how is your 's doing and how old is your plant or plants?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Madrono de monte
« on: October 20, 2021, 02:13:28 AM »
Sweet and sour, moderate flesh. Beatiful when fruit loaded
Sweet and sour like baccaureas and santol is it?that's the only fruit that I can think about to compare.ive never had other garcinias other than purple mangosteen

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: My garden today
« on: October 20, 2021, 12:46:31 AM »
Wow! Now I totally want to buy garden furniture!

Seriously though, I love sapodillas, maybe one of my favorite fruit. It's like eating wet brown sugar! Is that banana a banana or a plantain? I've never heard of those but they look awesome!
It's a plantain.we used it to make fried fritter and banana chips

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Madrono de monte
« on: October 20, 2021, 12:44:02 AM »
Just madroño

Looks similar to a yellow pulasan we have in Borneo.hows the taste and flesh ratio?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Madrono de monte
« on: October 18, 2021, 09:05:47 PM »
If you ever visit Borneo to smuggle some of those seeds so that we can have em here too

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Madrono lindero
« on: October 18, 2021, 09:03:38 PM »
NW Ecuador means its native to the choco rainforest or maybe moist forest on the Andean mountains.if it grows at your place it'll sure do well in my place

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Madrono lindero
« on: October 18, 2021, 10:27:14 AM »
here they are...<br /><br /><br /><br />
Yes I've seen the photo at your website.There you mentioned about it originating from tropical South America.Exactly where is that and how many years will it first fruit after being panted ?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Madrono de monte
« on: October 13, 2021, 11:56:22 AM »
Just curious how is seedlings doing now? hopefully it has grown into a tree since it's already 7years

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Madrono lindero
« on: October 13, 2021, 11:37:15 AM »
Are there anyone here growing or had tasted  madrono lindero an undescribed garcinia sp from Jim west' farm in Ecuador?.I got to know about this particular garcinia after visiting his website.From the description it sounds like great fruit

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I planted 45 trees of Luc's garcinia about 2 years ago to complement my achacha trees, someone has since mentioned to me that they are slow to fruit and mediocre producers. is this true? DId I waste a bunch of space on them? So far these trees are strong growers even under neglect, and the roots go straight down, which is unusual as most trees in our climate are too lazy to go down given how much moisture is at the surface. But they're only a little faster than my regular mangosteens. Most artocarpus grow to 12-15 feet in a year in our climate, but the garcinia as a whole are significantly slower. Right now I seem to get about 2-3 feet a year with adequate fertilizer.
Guess you missed my previous post? This species looks like it's not going to set fruit in our very rainy climate. Three years in a row flowering, and only one fruit set. Now i find out that area of Mexico has very dry weather for many months when the plants are flowering.
Well you can always buy another property in a drier part of Hawaii.😊.since Hawaii is blessed with different kind of climates

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fire in the Amazon...
« on: August 27, 2019, 12:03:36 AM »
Civilisation didnt evolved on the Amazon because of the bad soil the rainforest grows.Bad soil means no agriculture and no agriculture means no cityes.
But somme ancient amazonian people used slash and char techniques as oposed to slash and burn and the charcoal made the soil suitable for agriculture.
The big fires from now are slash and burn wich renders the soil unusable for agriculture in just 10-20 years.
Its all explained here https://youtu.be/0Os-ujelkgw
You are right about the soil factor.Thats why complex civilization never sprang up there.Another reason could be due to the fact that the Americas was pretty much isolated from the rest of the world during ancient times.In south East Asia especially in areas which is  Indonesia and Malaysia in the present day  maritime civilization rose about 1000 years in the past thanks to the Indians and Chinese and also arabs

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 4 seasons longan
« on: August 01, 2019, 03:19:43 AM »
We grow Diamond river.  How does that compare to Ping Pong and Lada?
Peter
Depends on how you compare.lada is a shy bearer and doesn't produce much fruits.but it has small seeds unlike diamond river.i think diamond river is smaller seeds than ping pong.ping pong has very big seeds and thin arils

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: unindentified fruits from Sarawak
« on: July 22, 2019, 01:02:58 AM »
Dialium indum and laurinum are two slow growing trees here in Reunion Island. Less than 2 meters tall in five years ! May be next century the children of my children will built a house for their sons !

Gouralata
Hopefully they'll learn to appreciate those plants and care for them.would be bad if they cut em down .

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: 4 seasons longan
« on: July 22, 2019, 12:57:59 AM »
Look out for Longan Lada, it's known for fruiting 3/4 times a year in tropical weather....
Or try looking for ping-pong longan which fruit year round here in malaysia.longan lada is a shy bearer unlike ping pong

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Hi,

I tried to find out more about this tropical longan on the Internet. Do you know of this is Dimocarpus longan var. malesianus (mata kuching) that you grow?

Tomas
No those aren't mata kucing.those in the photos are the typical dimocarpus longan which had gone acclimization in tropical climate.i was surprised you don't have them in the americas

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tropical Longan
« on: July 22, 2019, 12:49:39 AM »
In Malaysia and Indonesia it's called ping pong longan.this variety is from southern Vietnam.cheers

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