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Jeff vs. Rob--the Battle of the Mango Titans! ;)

There is no comparison! Cookie is a man of action ...  has the best tasting mangos in south Florida,. Rob just runs his mouth

Arent you the pot calling the kettle black...

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Amy, a Jakarta seedling...and I believe it is D-5 (trying to find/access my old notes).

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In all places, its Edward, not Edwards.

The Providence says Kent x Gary on your sheet...you need to remove "x Gary"

I am also not sure ZINC was ever used as a pollinator.

Coco Cream should say Edward x Gary

Carla is C-12, a Zill 80.

There is opinion that many may have been pollinated by Gary but not all crosses are documented.

Crystal is I-29 and a Zill 80 seedling.

J-14 is a ZINC seedling.


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Try eating it when it just barely starts to yellow (still half green). If you snap off a leaf and smell the sap, it's a south east asian smell, but you have to eat them at the right stage. When fully ripe, the spice (and most of the flavor) is gone, and it's a fairly boring mango.

I don’t detect any spice flavor in Maha but everyone’s palate is different.

Some may say that "complexity" comes from being underripe.  Hahahahaha (sorry, Jeff...had to do it).  Then again, the mango in the video did not have the look of an underripe mango.

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Dwarf Hawaiin is a "re-name" of what was originally known as Tete Nene or Tete-de-Nene in Puerto Rico.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rambutan Fever in South Florida, USA
« on: August 20, 2018, 03:09:18 PM »
Usually a fruit has to have been proven to grow well in an area before anyone will risk starting a commercial venture. So far i think only 2 people have fruited rambutan in Florida, Bill Whitman and Adolf Grimel? It is extremely rare that a fruit will go from total obscurity in being grown in an area to being grown commercially.
The rambutan is a well accepted commercial fruit. It is widely liked. So it's good to try to grow it out of it's normal range. But getting to commercial stage, if it is possible at all, would take decades of development, not 2 years.

And its not like people with a wealth of plant knowledge havent tried..

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I remember a time, qa few years ago, when Maha Chanok and Angie were the most talked about varieties in the Forum.  I would be surprised if either one of them got into anyone's top 15 list now. That said, I like Angie more than MC.

Thats mostly thanks to Richard Campbell (as to Angie) and Harry (as to Mahachanok).  Sorry Harry...

BTW, Sheehan is a big lover of Mahachanok.

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I'm comprising a list of the newer zill [propagated] varieties and their parentage and mono/poly....got a lot of blanks for mono/poly determination. This is what I have so far.   I am trying to base these on physical inspection of seeds (a few...more than one).



Providence is NOT Kent x Gary.  It was not part of any breeding project.  It was a chance seedling that was on Walter's property and kept by Walter Zill for certain growth habits and fruit characteristics. 

I also wonder if all the parentage you have is correct.  I would not go by assumption or what a 3rd, 4th or 5th party says (I know Gary was not thrilled and denied providing detailed infornation about the varieties when he was approached about writing a book on his breeding project).

If you are going to make and post a sheet like this, you should make sure all of the facts are correct...just sayin and my 2 cents.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jamaican Cherry near me???
« on: August 20, 2018, 07:53:36 AM »
For those in windy locations, the wood (ie limbs/branches) are brittle and snap easily.

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Guava and Providence are not a Gary Zill/ZHPP creation.  Providence is from Walter Zill and most likely a Kent seedling.  Guava was from a tree growing in West Palm Beach and was going to be destroyed by the County.  Walter took budwood snd saved the "variety".

Buttercream is 34-12.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sugar apple question
« on: August 19, 2018, 09:00:21 PM »
How 'bout not totally hijacking someone's thread...

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rambutan Fever in South Florida, USA
« on: August 19, 2018, 08:58:07 PM »
This thread was just upgraded from the dream into fantasy world.

Actually, I would say sillyness progessing to stupidity...

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Your angie must be receiving nitrogen.

In the video Har commented about the bitterness of Maha skin.  My Angie is much larger than my Pickering.  I have to top it every year.  With Pickering I only cut the lowest branches because I don't want the fruit to touch the ground.
Yeah I guess I should stop the nitrogen.  But Pickering's been getting nitrogen, too.  How do you rate the flavor of Dwarf Hawaiian, Jeff?

Has Julie like characteristics.   I am not a fan at all but those that like that Julie spice do seem like it.   I have seen occasional issues with uneven ripening and anthracnose.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Rambutan Fever in South Florida, USA
« on: August 19, 2018, 09:43:25 AM »
A "Rambutan industry in South Florida"...
hahahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha



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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Flying Fox Fruits Nursery
« on: August 18, 2018, 12:22:52 PM »
Is that the same as pakistani black with the long fruits? I actually just bought one of those a few days ago. Really delicious fruit.

OK. Yah, we got two. One was for the Boss' friend :D

Im with ya on Tice, in both taste and size...unfortunately there is nothing comparable.

You have the green for the Boss (didnt you guys get two of them?), that is the sweetest.

You might like the Pakistani Red.  It has more of a red berry flavor in its profile.

Similar but there is one that ripens to a (ruby) reddish color and does not go to fully "black"

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sugar apple question
« on: August 18, 2018, 11:27:22 AM »
You dont need to wait till soft to pick a sugar apple...as a matter of fact I personally dont recommend it (the rish if insexts or vermin getting to it or the splat factor is great). 

Whether red or green type, it will lighten in color, especially around the sections, and the sextions will seperate.  If picked properly and hard, will soften up in a day or two and be perfect eating (exxept for the high seed count).

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Noooooo...no tasting videos.  I will host and/or attend a tasting but not be the part of a host tasting video.

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Guess I will agree to disagree.  Dir those in the US, many have the opportunity to  taste, just takes the want, effort and cost.

As for the vidoes, since taste is subjective and most people's taatebuds seem to interpret differently, it doesnt tell anyone how they will taste for each viewer or if they will like it.

As for Sulcata's videos, those are a downright joke...but then again the world lives off of youtube and FB and is hypnotized by the internet and believes all they see and hear.

EDITED:  had to edit due to major typo, it said taste is "objective" and should have said "subjective"

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sugar apple question
« on: August 18, 2018, 08:07:32 AM »
Pictures always help.  Further description of actual fruit (size, color, etc.)?
 Tree size/age?   What type of sugar apple?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: air layer fertilizer
« on: August 18, 2018, 01:25:07 AM »
It is not recommended to use potting mix with fertilizer incorporated into the next. I know people use it but again not recommended. Use a well draining commercial potting mix (Fafard 52 ot ProMix) for the air layer and best to start in a smaller pot, a 2 or 3 gal, till rooted out.  You can apply a light drench of 20-20-20 liquid fertilizer.  Once rooted out, you can up-pot to a 7gal till rooted and then plant out.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Is this mammea Americana?
« on: August 18, 2018, 12:46:49 AM »
No picture of the flesh and only description of the flash as "orange pretty standard" means and says nothing.

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People need to actually eat the fruit for themselves, not vicariously  through videos.  No offense to the usual suspects however I would not think any of those were outstanding fruit based on their comments (the usual caveat if picked by who I am guessing picked them, they were picked underripe). 

Their description of Mahachanok was not very enticing but then again, I dont think its anything to write home about anyway.

The Shwahintha sounds like it was nit fully ripe.

Peach Cobbler does not have a peach component so when I hear comments about "looking for it" while tasting is very disconcerting.

I didnt bother watching them taste M4 when I heard the statement thst one of them has never tasted coconut in a mango...

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Flying Fox Fruits Nursery
« on: August 17, 2018, 11:02:57 PM »
OK. Yah, we got two. One was for the Boss' friend :D

Im with ya on Tice, in both taste and size...unfortunately there is nothing comparable.

You have the green for the Boss (didnt you guys get two of them?), that is the sweetest.

You might like the Pakistani Red.  It has more of a red berry flavor in its profile.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Flying Fox Fruits Nursery
« on: August 17, 2018, 07:05:05 PM »
OK. I like sweet + tart, but the Boss likes hers pure sweet. If it tastes anything like the tice (not sure if you're had that one), then I'd be down. I love Tice mullbary, but the tree is gargantuan.

What's the flavor of the Thai Dwarf Mulberry like?

u can eat them a bit early, and they are tart, with a snap, crispy almost like baby corn!  You can pick them without them staining your hands, unlike most other varieties I have, that are softer fleshed, and leak juice on your fingers.

then u can eat them fully ripe, when they are quite sweet, but also have a touch of tart.

the main attraction for this variety IMO is the dwarf size, and incredible productivity, and large size of fruits!  They are great for making pies, or using in cooking, but also very good for eating fresh. 

If you are looking for an all sweet mulberry, with no tartness at all, then this one is not for you.

Im with ya on Tice, in both taste and size...unfortunately there is nothing comparable.

You have the green for the Boss (didnt you guys get two of them?), that is the sweetest.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Flying Fox Fruits Nursery
« on: August 17, 2018, 09:44:56 AM »
Hi friend,
Adam only ship plants within USA. So if you have shipping address in your account that is outside of USA, you can not see these auction.

Learn something new every day.

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