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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Ackee Trees and Small Children and Pets
« on: August 03, 2018, 04:12:25 PM »
Along the same lines, I shied away from macadamia trees because I heard they are poisonous to dogs.  I have a black lab and anyone who knows labs understands they will eat just about anything. 

Is macadamia similar to ackee where sure its poisonous but animals intuitively know better?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Eugenia ID Help Please
« on: August 01, 2018, 10:16:25 AM »
Good day,

I have a beautiful Eugenia on my property here on St. Croix.  Its very hard to discern which type. I'm leaning towards Eugenia Rhombea or Eugenia Confusa. But perhaps its Eugenia Psuedosidium?   

Any Eugenia experts here that can help?  Berries are small and red when ripe with a sweet taste.  NEw growth is pinkish red that turns to green.  Trunk is mottled. 

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Selling: fruits plants
« on: July 30, 2018, 10:06:45 AM »

I live on St. Croix and would love a Langsat and Durian.  Do you have any left?

No problems importing trees.  Maybe there are certain requirements but I am not aware of any.  I have shipped in plants through US Mail and also through Ocean Cargo and they all arrive no problem.

I should clarify, the Lemon Zest I have seen are in pots at one of the few nurseries.  I thought LZ has been around for awhile.  I am more interested in the recent offerings.   

I have considered budwood.  I have planted out several kidney mangos this year to establish rootsock.  I am new to grafting so I want to perfect my technique before importing budwood. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Update on Russells Sweet Garcinia
« on: July 18, 2018, 09:30:40 AM »
Is there anyone selling seeds?

Good day,

I am traveling up from St. Croix to South Florida for a brief visit . I plan on going to Excalibur nursery to get some other types of fruit trees but not sure if they have any of the new Zill mango varieties in stock.

I'm not really sure which ones I would be looking for because there are so many! If I could find coconut cream, E4 or Sugarloaf, Orange Sherbert, or any other Zill varieties, I would be stoked.

Down here we have tons of Julies, Kents, Carries, and Lemon know, the usual.   I really want to bring some of the Zill varieties down here.

Any suggestions on where I could find these in the South Florida/Treasure Coast region would be much appreciated.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Looking Plinia Edulis Seeds (Cambuca)
« on: June 26, 2018, 04:36:16 PM »
Does anyone have any sources for Cambuca seeds?


Wow! That looks very nice.  You have been busy!  Looks like I should propagate more of my lemongrass and plant more of it! I really like the self-mulching orchard approach. 

I wish I could get my hands on some hurricane mulch.  Its been available in St. Thomas but not in St. Croix.  Go figure.  I heard they didn't do a good job of sorting out the trash from the vegetation. 

We are having quite the influx of Sargassum at the moment so I have been using some of that. 

How long does it take for these to germinate?  I have had them in soil for about three weeks now and have not seen any signs of germination.  One of the seeds looked like it was germinating before I planted it but have not seen anything come above the soil.

I hope I haven't been over watering them.  I have them under some tree canopy and a shade cloth above them so they don;t get any direct sun but still see filtered light.   I mist the soil surface with a garden sprayer every morning.  Fingers crossed!

Hi Miguel!

My Neilita seed I got from you last year is doing well and just under 1' tall.

If you still have some available, I would like to order a few more.  Please let me know!

Maybe he is lurking out there in the interwebz. 

From his profile:

Date Registered:
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I would love to meet Coconut.  He sounds like a character for sure and his posts were one of a kind!

Seems like he was/is pretty well connected and one of those people well versed in many aspects of life.  Has anyone ever met him before?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Suggestions on how to use comfrey
« on: May 25, 2018, 08:32:42 AM »
Great information everyone.

Comfrey is awesome stuff.  I have used it to heal a few injuries.  Now lets see what it can do for my trees!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Chipper recommendations
« on: May 25, 2018, 08:30:26 AM »
Thanks for the replies everyone.  Looks like I need to spend the money on a good one.  Appreciate the input.

His posts were most entertaining and he seemed to have a lot of knowledge.  I messaged him awhile back about the elusive Soursop but no reply. 

Just curious if anyone knows him and why he doesn't post here anymore.  Also would love some seeds from the fiberless seedless Soursop he talked about!

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Suggestions on how to use comfrey
« on: May 23, 2018, 04:21:22 PM »
I have a few potted comfrey plants that are quite happy.  I've read about various ways to use comfrey but not sure what is the most effective.

Looking for any suggestions on how to use comfrey effectively.

I also have tons of stinging nettle on my property.  So my thought was to fill a 55 gallon barrel with drain spout on bottom.  I would fill the barrel with water and place comfrey, stinging nettle, sargasso, seaweed, etc and allow to sit for awhile.  Then drain the liquid from the drain spout and apply via watering can.  Or I could strain what comes out of the drain and add that to totes which I use for gravity drip irrigation during the dry season.  A bit labor intensive but sounds like a good idea right?

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Chipper recommendations
« on: May 23, 2018, 04:15:06 PM »
We are also having a large influx of Sargasso seaweed so I plan to do some collecting on the beach and also apply as mulch. 

I found in the past that its not even necessary to rinse, just put right down and when it rains those trace nutirents from the ocean filter into the root zone.

But!  A chipper sounds like fun and a good tool to add to the arsenal.  I bought a Honda mulching mower just to harvest the grass clippings. Now we added a composting toilet onto our property too and its the bucket to barrel type so also generating mulch/compost that way as well.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Chipper recommendations
« on: May 23, 2018, 04:11:34 PM »
Thanks for the replies everyone!  Looks like I will have to expand my budget a bit.  There is someone on St. John selling a Generac chipper but that's a different island 40 miles away so might as well be a continent away!

Salty Cayman, we do have the Australian Pines here.  I was not aware of the pine needles making good mulch.  That is very good to know, thanks!

I didn't see a link to anything there savemejebus lol.  Can you post it again? 

I have a lot of Leucaena leucocephala also known locally as Tan Tan and manjack on neighboring property.  Its a property i hope to buy in the near future to expand my orchard.  I figured I could start getting rid of the bush and chipping it for mulch. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Chipper recommendations
« on: May 22, 2018, 05:07:34 PM »
I am looking to chip small diameter trees and leaves for mulching purposes.  Since I live on island and would need to ship one in.  I don't want to break the bank on this either and would like to keep it under $1000 and if I could find one under $500 that would be even better.    But I've learned my lesson with cheap tools. 

Any recommendations on chippers that can handle say 1" diameter freshly cut brush?  I'm open to electric or gas.


So I have a couple Genip trees that I chainsawed down to stumps and I am planning on planting a grafted Butler Avocado close by where the stumps are.  I have tons of Genips on my property so I have been eliminating some of them to have more diversity.

The Genips would grow back if I let them because they shoot up new growth at the stumps all the time.

If I leave the stumps, would they cause problems for the Avocado?  It seems like they could actually be beneficial by pulling up deeper moisture with their intact root systems.    But then again, perhaps they would cause unnecessary competition for moisture and nutrients.

Any input is appreciated.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Vetiver grass
« on: April 16, 2018, 04:48:31 PM »
I know this is not a tropical fruit, but I just learned about how this grass can really be an asset to a permaculture or food forest type of setup. 

I'd like to order a few plugs but can't seem to locate them anywhere.  Puerto Rico has a farm but they were hit hard and only recently starting to recover so they are not accepting orders at this time. 

Does anyone have any Florida sources?  Or perhaps would a forum member be willing to sell me a few plugs?


Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Luc's / Mexican Garcinia .
« on: April 12, 2018, 04:34:29 PM »
Hi Luc,

Have all the seeds been spoken for?  I sent you an email about 6 months ago and you said check back in May. I didn't realize I could have reserved some seeds at that time.

Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Flying Fox Fruits Nursery
« on: November 08, 2017, 10:29:54 AM »
Damn that  youtube video is classic!!! 

Adam you must grow other things than just fruit trees!!! 

Hey kudos to you if you can make a good living doing your own thing.  Would love to be self employed myself. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: We are alive but battered on St. croix
« on: October 16, 2017, 10:38:23 AM »
pineislander hit the nail on the head.  After the storm the lush tropical landscape looks like the dead of winter in the northeast, completely barren coupled with massive trees uprooted or snapped in half.  The grass is completely unaffected so when you see aerial footage from after the storm you see the barren landscape interspersed with these bright green patches of grass.

We have tons of beautiful and giant mahogany trees on St. Croix as pineislander pointed out.  Overall they are very strong and hold up to storms very well.  However they are no match for a Cat 5 and several large ones were completely uprooted.  I'm talking about 300-400 old tress that have seen countless storms.  I bet trees like this would live even longer but its probably big storms like Maria that cut their life short.    I saw one that was not only uprooted but some how lifted and flipped over so the roots were pointing straight up, crazy! 

I was really bummed my Lingum Vitaes did not make it because they grow so slow.  Pretty much the strongest wood in the world so I was really surprised to see what happened to the ones on my property.  Its like a hand from the sky came down and grabbed them and tossed them somewhere else.  No hole in the ground where they were or anything.  On the other hand, my friend on St. Thomas says he has a couple on his old Danish Plantation property with 2' diameter trunk that he says probably saved his house.  So maybe mine weren't big enough to have developed and extensive root system. 

Tbe black ironwood (Krugiodendron Ferreum) trees I have on my property survived which is also a native hardwood. They lost branches but did mostly ok. The West Indian Locust trees also known as stinktoe did very well.  There is a massive one near me that is easily 500' tall and it survived!  The Kapoks and Baobobs seem to have done ok, perhaps due to less windage.  We have tons of big mango trees as well and they do surprisingly well. 

The genips which are everywhere here don't do well at all but they come back quick even if they get snapped in half, those things are almost like weeds! 

Other trees which you would think would do well actually don't.  The Saman do not handle high winds, several large specimens just tossed over like toys.  Neem trees I have come to learn have a shallow root system and are toppled easily.  Tibet trees are the worst, they were coming down in Irma which was only tropical storm force winds for us on St. Croix.  Flamboyant aka Royal Poinciana are susceptible too high winds too. 

Unfortunately like pineislander mentioned the opening up of the canopy is allowing the vines, tan tan (Leucaena Leucocephala), Acacia, and manjack to thrive.  I know a place where there are tons of juvenile mahogany trees so I'm going to try and relocate them to my neighborhood so one day we will have a beautiful mahogany canopy. 

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: We are alive but battered on St. croix
« on: October 15, 2017, 07:47:21 AM »
Thanks for the replies everyone I really appreciate it!

We lost our guavas, eggfruit, mesple (sapodilla), tons of pineapples, Meyer lemon, several avocado, several mango, a tangelo and tangerine, and a few jabos.

The bananas should come back quickly, the ice cream bean made it, guavaberry made it, alll of our dwarf coconuts got blown over but I was able to stand them back up.

I would love just about any kind of seeds people are willing to donate. I am looking at this as an opportunity to replace all the fallen trees with fruit bearers instead.

I will send pms individually.

 It's really a bummer looking at pictures before the storm. Enough time has passed where the shock has worn off and we have accepted the new landscape as normal. Rebuilding structures is easy and realively quick process. Replacing mature tees though is much more difficult and at the mercy time.

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