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I bought some from this seller:
https://www.ebay.it/itm/RARE-2-GRAINES-DE-SOHIONG-Prunus-nepalensis-SEEDS-SAMEN-SEMILLAS/163052672844?hash=item25f6b2574c:g:-K0AAOSwAQBarmKo

I think they are viable, because when they arrived the inside was rattling and now after 3 weeks I don't hear the rattle anymore so the seed is expanding.
I also bought some indian jujube from him and 3 of 10 germinated immediately, the rest didn't germinate yet.

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I am currently waiting for the sun to set to the west so I can tell how tall a plant is needed to save me from the scorexous sun in 2-3 years time
Remember sun angle and direction varies through the year. This is a handy calculator which uses GPS coordinates to visually show you where a shadow will lie at any location on earth any time of day. It also animates to show how shadows travel through a day. Very cool and very useful if you play around with it.

https://www.suncalc.org/#/40.1789,-3.5156,3/2018.06.08/11:19/1/2

AMAZING!

I was tracking it by eye lol. And taking photos from my bedroom to try and remember the sun. This is absolutely fabulous.

There are several smartphone apps that show you the position of the sun using the phone camera, so you can see exactly where it will be.
Some names: Sun seeker, Sun Surveyor, Sun Position.
I like Sun Seeker but it's a paid app withou demo or lite version.

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You can grow Passiflora Edulis. You will have full shade by the end of the summer if you plant it in some good fertile soil.
It will easily do 7-8 meters in every direction even the first year if properly irrigated and fertilized..

I'm watching you tube for some idea of how the plants grows, actually I was looking for a vine plant to use as privacy, so thank you for this idea as another option. But I can't think of a way to shade the 2nd floor.

Should I buy it from Lowes? Is there a variety I should be looking for, what's your recommendation?

I don't know what is available in USA. I often hear about edulis frederick. In Italy we have Edulis Colvilli that produce big fruits.
You can use big poles and wires in the middle to sustain them. You could use also some wire from the house to a pole in the garden and create a sort of diagonal roof.
You could also use a fast growing tree and let it climb there.
You can get some ideas here:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4woqw1zicfk

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You can grow Passiflora Edulis. You will have full shade by the end of the summer if you plant it in some good fertile soil.
It will easily do 7-8 meters in every direction even the first year if properly irrigated and fertilized..

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Subtropical abiu relatives?
« on: June 07, 2018, 02:33:58 AM »
The closest relative with better cold hardiness is Chrysophyllum imperiale, the fruit seem very similar.
Should grow in 10a zone, maybe 9b too. There are very few specimen so it's impossible to know the real limit.


I had thought of C. imperiale as more closely related to starapple, but it would be interesting to see if they're compatible.

I thought you were looking for a similar fruit, not for a potential rootstock.
Anyway I think Abiu, Star apple and C. Imperiale are more closely related than Abiu and other pouterias like Lucuma, mamey, Canistel etc.
The fruit and seeds are almost identical while common Pouteria seeds are usually bigger and spherical.

Abiu seeds don't look anything like starapple or C. imperiale seeds.


I never had Abiu but from the pictures online this is very similar to my seeds of C.Imperiale  and C. Albidum, it's just a little fatter:


Anyway I am not saying Abius should switch to Pouteria, I am just saying I think they have more in common then some Pouteria and it's worth a try as rootstock.
They must have something in common or they wouldn't be both in the Sapotacee family.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Subtropical abiu relatives?
« on: June 06, 2018, 07:07:05 PM »
Anyway I think Abiu, Star apple and C. Imperiale are more closely related than Abiu and other pouterias like Lucuma, mamey, Canistel etc.

If botanists agreed with this then abiu would be classified under Chrysophyllum.

If this was proven science we would have names that stick forever, instead I see way too often plants changing names and I am not talking of incorrect ID on this forum.
The same Chrysophyllum Imperiale we are talking here was :
1-Theophrasta imperialis
2-Martusiella imperialis
3-Chrysophyllum Imperiale

And now they want to go back to Martusiella, because some dna study revealed it is not closely related to neither Chrysophyllum nor Pouteria.
I am not a botanist, but the above is my point of view.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Subtropical abiu relatives?
« on: June 06, 2018, 05:18:18 PM »
The closest relative with better cold hardiness is Chrysophyllum imperiale, the fruit seem very similar.
Should grow in 10a zone, maybe 9b too. There are very few specimen so it's impossible to know the real limit.

I had thought of C. imperiale as more closely related to starapple, but it would be interesting to see if they're compatible.
I thought you were looking for a similar fruit, not for a potential rootstock.
Anyway I think Abiu, Star apple and C. Imperiale are more closely related than Abiu and other pouterias like Lucuma, mamey, Canistel etc.
The fruit and seeds are almost identical while common Pouteria seeds are usually bigger and spherical.

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Citrus General Discussion / Re: Aphids destroying my Citrus
« on: June 06, 2018, 05:11:27 PM »
Hands is the best insecticide, after the initial gross you won't mind anymore except for the finger becoming green(or black, depends on the aphids :D).
I had the same results with neem oil, not much instruction on how to use it online.
You must use a drop or two per liter and add some dish soap that should make some chemical reaction(probably help break it apart), not super effective however.
Another eco friendly way is to spray them with a strong water jet to remove them, they will return in a few days but after the leaves are bigger they won't eat it anymore or do less damage at least.

On a side note, a lot of aphids could also mean the plant is not happy.
My sister had a big kumquat tree in pot that had tons of aphids and mealy bugs, I was tired of seeing it in such a poor state that I decided to put it in the ground where it would have needed less cure(it was practically abandoned) and there was a lot of mold in the end of the pot, probably due to poor drainage. Never saw any parasite since then.

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I noticed the same, too much sun doesn't make them happy. Sure, they will grow anyway but you can see the leaves are often showing sign of sunburn and discoloration.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Subtropical abiu relatives?
« on: June 06, 2018, 06:37:23 AM »
The closest relative with better cold hardiness is Chrysophyllum imperiale, the fruit seem very similar.
Should grow in 10a zone, maybe 9b too. There are very few specimen so it's impossible to know the real limit.

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Red hybrid has small leaves and those ones look a bit big. The new growth is often more coppery than that.

My red hybrid has similar sized leaves. The first year in ground had green new growth, this year it's orange. Didn't change anything in the soil.

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Do we need to cut off scion above ground but below the graft union after sometime?



Like Chandramohan said, approach graft.
I would like to add, don't cut the scion below the graft, there is no need. Keep it as additional rootstock, it will give the plant a more established root system given by the combination of the two.
Just cut above the graft the rooststock if you don't wish to keep that variety.

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Any update on this? Got myself some Lotus and Virginiana seedling to try, but I would like to hear how it's going from you guys.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Should I train my cambuca?
« on: May 21, 2018, 01:58:55 AM »
When I don't want to cut I always train the branches with wires to open/close the canopy an guide a branch in a specific direction.
I see no reason to let it grow freely if you got the time do do it


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Thanks - I wish we could "Like" posts here  :)
Likes were possible before and moderators took that out.
Oscar, have you ever restocked these seeds?
I believe they are out of stock since forever right?
Or they come and go immediately?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tasting Pitomba
« on: May 07, 2018, 07:22:13 AM »
Good to know, I will keep it in a pot then. 
Did you try Pitangatuba in the ground by any chance? I just put mine in the ground but I am fearing for it.
However sometime the same plant can vary a lot between seedling.
I am finding it is easier to make reasonably young ( around 2 years) plant happy in my climate then older plants.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tasting Pitomba
« on: May 06, 2018, 05:32:33 PM »
Hi Joe,
How did you Pitomba pass the winter?
We have similar climate, so I am always curious as to what survive at your place.

Regarding taste, did you try other resinous Eugenia for comparison? Something like Uniflora.
Cause some people doesn't detect the peppery after taste at all.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Can anybody ID this avocado?
« on: May 06, 2018, 04:46:50 PM »
Sorry, I donít know enough about the specific leaf shapes to help you out. Does it have the anise smell that some avocado varieties have?


That's the point. It was supposed to have anice smell since Walter Hole is a mexican breed, but it doesn't.
It should be one of these, cause I am pretty sure the nursery is buying from them:
http://www.viverosblanco.com/en/rootstocks

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Can anybody ID this avocado?
« on: May 05, 2018, 05:20:14 PM »
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Here except from one nursery which sell minuscule plants of registered varieties at exorbitant prices all the other are just labeled: red, pink, yellow,etc.
That's why I wanted to know if it was worth the money.
So far I have:
Faustrime which I totally despise, because of the soapy undertone.

finger sanguinea, which grow like a slug. It did make a fruit last year but didn't fully develop.
The taste was promising however.

One generic red, which is just red outside.
Taste like a regular lime.

Another red, which is flowering now. Never tasted yet.

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Is there any finger lime collector here?
I am intrigued by the finger limes, but so far my experience with them hasn't been overwhelming.
I saw the description of the registered varieties and they seem to vary a lot in taste and juiciness, is it true or it's just marketing.
Juiciness especially has been a disappointment for me, since I couldn't taste yet a finger lime which would pop in my mouth, mostly I feel like eating lemon pulp.
Does some variety really "explode" more than the others?

On another note, what about the varieties that are described as having spicy apple taste and apricot? I really can't picture it. Is it true? Varieties like Red Champagne for example.

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Oh god thank you. I always wondered what that vomit I keep finding around was.

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My Nippon Orangequat produces fruit as large as a mandarin.  It isn't very good, though.  I have most kumquats and hybrids and my experience is that while the skin is edible on the hybrids it isn't actually sweet like "true" kumquats such as nagami, marumi, fukushu, meiwa. 

I would love a kumquat-grapefruit hybrid.   Even better if more seedless kumquats were available. You
Well if the fruit is not too sour, it's ok as long as it's not bitter :D
I didn't know the red lime was sweet. Didn't read raging reviews about that.


Its not big like an orange but skin of the Centennial Kumquat is sweet, and an exxellent balance with the virtually seedless flavorful tart flesh.

Skin of the red lime is very much edible and sweet and fruit is of decent size compared to kumquat.
The centennial kumquat look exactly like my Orangequat variegated. Some website even changed the name too. But mine isn't seedless

The skin of mandarinquat is edible, although it isn't as good as kumquat.

You probably wouldn't consider this edible in the same sense as kumquats but the skin from the rinds of citron are very good in baked goods, or candied.

Too bad. I saw this video about mandarinquat and could never understand what it is.
Seem like an Indio, but people says Indio is too sour. Either she like super sour fruits or that is another thing.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rKu7WEof-YY

So far the biggest kumquat hybrid I have is this. It was sold as Limequat, but I'm not sure if it's an Eustis whose fruit become extra big because there were few or it's a Sunquat. The fruit was edible out of hand at this ripeness. I had another Limequat eustis, smaller plant, and the fruit never got bigger than half of this.





On a side note, what the hell is a Taiwaniquat? Saw it mentioned somewhere on facebook and can't find any info, maybe mispelled?

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I'm a big fan of kumquat hybrid and I was wondering how come there is no hybrid with big fruit yet?
I think it could be a very interesting fruit commercially, it's strange there isn't more hybridization testing.
Something like a orange or a grapefruit cross which maintain the size and combine the sweet skin.
I have an orangequat variegated and while the taste it's exactly like orange, it's still a kumquat in size.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Can anybody ID this avocado?
« on: April 12, 2018, 08:33:55 AM »
Nobody?

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