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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Are Pitangatuba Self-fertile?
« on: June 18, 2018, 07:35:41 PM »
some have issues with self-incompatibility, and may virtually never set fruits, i think because the flower opens up, and receive its own pollen immediately, which is incompatible, and also making the situation worse, it block the reception of any viable pollen from another donor plant...the solution i've found is to grow several seedlings instead of just one seedling, or make sure the mother tree you got your seedling from is known to set lots of fruits in isolation, from a young age.  And the final solution I've found, is to topwork a non-produtive tree, with scions from one that is known to be productive.

most of the trees that have these issues seem to be from the original stock that was imported over 30yrs ago, the recently imported stuff from 2005 to now, seems to be of superior quality, in terms of productivity, and flavor.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Grafting Cambuca
« on: June 18, 2018, 11:55:03 AM »
Though I am not a fruit tree lover (more of a lustful exploiter) I think I know the answer.
I think intercompatibility exists with Plinia trunciflora as well as Plinia peruviana.
Rock in Taiwan insists that cambuca can also be grafted onto Plinia cauliflora (regular jaboticaba).
Since the taxonomy shake-up, Myrciaria is a separate genus populated only by cambui/tenella, blue jabo/vexator, guaquica, strigipes, yellow jabo...)

Plinia peruviana is now the accepted name for Jabuticaba de Cabinho, so P. trunciflora is a synonym.

I used to think cambuca was incompatible with the common jaboticaba, Plinia jaboticaba var. Sabara, but come to find out, it is compatible, or at least somewhat.  I have heard that they will suddenly reject the scion in certain cases, after about 4yrs of solid growth, where others never have an issue.  I had tried grafting P. edulis onto P. jaboticaba several times in the past with no success, but recently I had a graft take with no issues.

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I order at least one box per year, or else i'd have to drive all around the state visiting friends with mango trees, asking for handouts...

always a pleasure to get fruit from Tropical Acres Farms...

if you live in Ca or Hi he can't ship to you, but at least you got some really good mangoes growing in your state already...

all other states, I highly recommend you make a purchase!

i got a custom box for $55 total, it included Angie, Cac, Simmonds, Carrie, Zill, and Cogshall.




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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Myrciaria guaquiea
« on: June 10, 2018, 12:11:05 PM »

If they set fruit at such a small size I might just leave this 3 footer in a pot



that is not a Myrciaria, it looks more like Plinia coronata, maybe var. Restinga

This is my Restinga and the leaves are very different



lol, you'll thank me later...that is your Myrciaria guaquiea...looks like your labels got mixed up about 2-3y ago.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Myrciaria guaquiea
« on: June 09, 2018, 10:48:12 PM »

If they set fruit at such a small size I might just leave this 3 footer in a pot



that is not a Myrciaria, it looks more like Plinia coronata, maybe var. Restinga

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: JF Annona grafting in Florida
« on: May 30, 2018, 04:05:08 PM »
That's bodoss

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mexican Rheedia/Garcinia?
« on: May 26, 2018, 01:58:46 PM »
I had a feeling mine should be flowering by now (thanks Ed Self for giving me my trees, back in 2012?  they were already nice sized, maybe a foot tall?)...I've been trying to keep an eye out for flowers, but it's really hard to check the plant because it's so bushy (taking so many scions)...I guess it's about 10-12y old by now...maybe 5.5ft...I just cover it with a ton of blankets when it goes down to 30F or lower (25F for many hours this last winter).  I checked it today, and found one female flower with what appears to be a  fruit that set...but after looking close at the photos, seems the stem is shriveling...I don't expect it to hold, but it's great to finally see some flowers.  I'm grafting the heck out of them now, and selling them on Ebay one at a time.  Also grafting lots of the superior lemon drop mangosteen (my favorite for growing in greenhouses or pots)...I've kind of abandon the Annonas (as far as propagating and collecting), and now focus more on the Garcinias, which are much easier for me to graft, and maintain, with the conditions I have here at my farm (wet, hot, cold, acid pH)






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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Looking for Licia scion
« on: March 29, 2018, 11:23:57 PM »
Need licia cherimoya budwood

you'll have to email me, but i should have a few cuttings.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pruning rollinia problem
« on: March 29, 2018, 11:21:59 PM »
pretty common with biribas in FL, i see die back all the time, it seems like some limbs just abort...it's definitely a touchy tree in some cases, it hates root stress.

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I was smelling longevity spinach blooms today and they have a strong smell of                              nacho cheese doritos ,small yellow flowers

lol those frickin flowers smell like the worst case of athlete's foot ever!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Wild Plinia Phitrantha?
« on: March 28, 2018, 07:37:08 PM »
looks a lot like phitrantha, but hard to say for sure from just a few pictures, because there's so many possibilities in your area.

but yes, fruit looks costate, leaves look right, and bark color does too.  I would bet on phitrantha.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: fruit fly and jaboticaba?
« on: March 25, 2018, 02:23:51 PM »
They can get fruit fly, but it's uncommon here, and mostly the thin skinned types, Red Jabo mainly, never cabeluda, or blue Jabo

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they need to go through some official proceedings to designate a botanical name for Grimal jabo...i don't think it would be Plinia jaboticaba, but rather a new species, that has not been named.

Helton has done some great work, but I have seen quite a few debates arise due to his taxonomic beliefs.

Why is Peluda de Alagoas (Large leaf Jaboticaba) still referred to as Plinia sp.? It is Plinia jaboticaba (distinct from Plinia cauliflora). If they are conspecific, then so should P. coronata be absorbed. At least, this is the way it was explained to me by Helton, who has read all of Mattos's original work. The key morphological difference is that P. cauliflora flowers on everything from trunk to thin branches, whereas P. jaboticaba only fruits on the thick branches. Varieties of cauliflora include Sabará, Paulista & ponhema. Varieties of jaboticaba include Olho de boi, Rajada, Pintada, açú etc... So PdA or Grimal is variety of P. jaboticaba. Or if you want to go with the current incorrect orthodoxy, a variety of P. cauliflora...

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yea i got 10 of them or more, and last year we had hurricane, and freezes, pretty bad...the freezes came and i watered them constantly overhead to protect them with ice formation, but what happened is crazy, i think there's pics on my FB page, but the trees got covered in ice, and it weighed them down so heavily that they were toppled, and uprooted from the pots, i guess the roots hadn't fill out the new 30 gal pots i put them in sufficiently to keep them upright with all that ice formation, it was crazy like 26F one night, and 25F the other, the trees were frozen over, and sitting in pools of water, with their roots disturbed heavily, but i just set them back upright, and kept them tied up, so the wind wouldn't jostle the roots as they recovered, and now they are doing just fine, but this year, not much flowering so far, just a light bloom, and light crop setting now, hopefully later this year the put out a nice crop..

I recently transplanted some Grimal Jabuticaba trees from 15 gal, into heavy duty 25 gal pots with reservoirs built in at the base.

some of the trees have light crops, and some are bare...but one is going crazy..(this is the 3rd crop this year...one was light, one was heavy)

Admittedly, I have been over-watering them...although the trees don't mind, the fruits will split when they are close to maturity. 

You can see the minerals from the water on the skin of the fruits, making them look chalky. 










Adam.  Do you still have this tree? or fruiting Grimal?

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Nice!

I had been selling some of the trees as pre-healed, which means I graft them and immediately send them to my customer to heal...the Garcinias have had surprisingly high success rate. 

I hope they grow very well for you, it's nice to be able to propagate this tree without waiting for seeds.

thanks for sharing!

Hi all, I'm new to the forum. I've enjoyed reading this thread. Exciting to see how close several people are to having fruiting trees. I wanted to share this grafted Luc's I got from Adam that just took.
-Josh



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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: can you ID this garcinia?
« on: February 10, 2018, 06:41:33 PM »
how did that greenhouse work out for you? the one i see in the picture from 2015?

I will try to get pics of my G. gardneriana for you, so we can compare leaves, yours does look a little funny now that i see 2015 pics, reminds me of gardneriana more i suppose...it would be nice if it was brasiliensis (maybe a superior form) or even gardneriana, or achachairu...they're all good eating fruits.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: can you ID this garcinia?
« on: February 06, 2018, 12:31:08 AM »
probably achachairu G.humilis.

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congrats on all that action...

use those vexator seeds as stock for grafting camu camu, it's fun.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: New jaboticabas, 1.5m, 5 feet tall
« on: February 01, 2018, 06:30:23 PM »
lol, maybe the other post was of paulista, this one coronata...and it helped confuse me for the other post.
Ok thanks, these are from another source, ver y similar but leaves smell stronger and nicer...

I made a tea out of its leaves and it tastes very good

now i see more pics i hadn't seen before, i guess i agree with Helton, it looks more like coronata than pualista,,, congrats on your flowers

Ah,ok, maybe wild coronata... we dont have flowers yet :-S

hey i thought those were flowers coming??

btw, you can easily tell once they fruit...the paulista kind of has a crown, but it's just not the same as real coronata, which has much more prominent apical disk.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: First jaboticaba flower buds??????
« on: February 01, 2018, 02:50:03 PM »
this is same tree we tried  figure out if paulista or coronata?

you have flowers coming right?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: New jaboticabas, 1.5m, 5 feet tall
« on: February 01, 2018, 02:48:38 PM »
now i see more pics i hadn't seen before, i guess i agree with Helton, it looks more like coronata than pualista,,, congrats on your flowers

Ah,ok, maybe wild coronata... we dont have flowers yet :-S

hey i thought those were flowers coming??

btw, you can easily tell once they fruit...the paulista kind of has a crown, but it's just not the same as real coronata, which has much more prominent apical disk.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: New jaboticabas, 1.5m, 5 feet tall
« on: January 31, 2018, 10:26:34 AM »
now i see more pics i hadn't seen before, i guess i agree with Helton, it looks more like coronata than pualista,,, congrats on your flowers

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Two year old Red Jabo plants
« on: January 29, 2018, 07:50:55 PM »
likes to be in a dish, and then let it dry out somewhat every few weeks if you don't want mosquitoes...lol

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started selling scions a few weeks ago,  i still have vinho tinto (reticulata), genova red illama, Pet pack chong atemoya, big red sugar apple, giant mexican sugar apple and annona salzmanii, and miami guanabana...i have a few others that were on my original list, but my yucatan sugar apple died....

please email me at flyingfoxfruits@gmail.com, and i will try to respond in a timely manner    ;D

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