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An interesting (& helpful) paper on pollination in Annonaceae:

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Sibu: a rare fruit supermarket !
« on: January 18, 2019, 04:11:52 PM »
Did you sample the buah langir?  I have heard it is supposed to be very sweet but have heard no particulars about the flavor or how much flesh there is?  If you could provide any details, it would be appreciated.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pulasan trees flowering . . .
« on: January 06, 2019, 11:32:56 AM »
Congratulations, Doug.  I hope you have a pair in there, you'll have to let us know how it turns out.  I'm happy to hear that two trees in one hole appears to be working out.  I've done the same thing with a number of different species (based on forum members' advice) and none of mine have fused yet but some are approaching this.


Here is an old paper by Swingle on a rarely seen citrus relative:

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Giant LauLau experience
« on: December 12, 2018, 02:17:00 PM »
I've never heard glowing reports either.  I think most reports I have seen say it is insipid.  I have one here in Hawaii and it, so far, has been growing slowly.  I am hoping it is nearing the point where it will kick into gear and start to put on some serious growth.  I think it is one of those fruit that are grown for its novelty value, not its flavor.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Another rewarding Borneo fruit trip
« on: December 12, 2018, 02:09:58 PM »
Looks like a great trip.  What areas are you visiting in Borneo on this one?


I believe seeds for all of these except the Annona would be available from Oscar at Fruitlovers, Jim West in Ecuador, or Montoso in Puerto Rico.  You should be able to find links for them in the seed source section, above.


Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Raulglezruiz
« on: November 14, 2018, 12:28:08 AM »
I've always had good luck with anything from Raul.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jackfruit Berried Treasure
« on: November 09, 2018, 04:32:46 PM »
It has been a rough year with a rainy spring and then a near miss by a hurricane that dumped about 4' of water here in a couple of days.  My berry jack has been a trooper though, blooming throughout (& still blooming now).  It is carrying 3 fairly large (8-10") fruits now, several smaller ones (probably 5-6") and several blossoms; it is looking pretty promising that I'll have some to taste this year.  I have another berry seedling that seems to be much less vigorous (at least so far).  I also have a Ziman Pink that was a larger, grafted tree.  This berry jack has blown by that tree in growth and is carrying fruit while the Ziman has blasted all the fruit the past two years.  The bigger fruits are not the prettiest I have seen but I am hoping that will taste as good as the mother tree in Aus that Mike T was so good to send seed from.

Pics of the bigger fruits:

Tropical Fruit Online Library / Starting coffee from green beans
« on: November 08, 2018, 06:31:56 PM »
I noticed a posting about "rare" coffee seed being available.  I don't know if it is general knowledge but coffee can be germinated from fresh green coffee beans so you can then have access to truly topshelf varieties like gesha and others.  I have not yet tried this (I am waiting to develop some "overstory" first) so I cannot comment on the germination rate.  If you search on line, there are many articles on it, here is one:

I have a few varieties of blackberry that have been fruiting for me here outside of Hilo at 600-700' altitude.  I decided to give them a try based upon a guy a short way down the coast (at similar altitude) that was successfully fruiting Natchez.  I'd need to check which ones are fruiting for me.  Correspondence with a prof at University of Arkansas put Natchez at 300-400 chill hours so I selected clones that were the same or less.  I see Navaho listed as 800 chill hours so I would try one with less if I were you.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Bellucia sp. pollination
« on: October 16, 2018, 09:23:37 PM »
If any of you have ordered Bellucia grossularioides from Jim West (or other Bellucia sp for that matter), it appears that they are self-incompatible so at least a couple need to be planted.  I will enter the link to the paper in the library section.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: How good does Carambola taste?
« on: October 15, 2018, 12:10:04 PM »
As others have mentioned, most do not consider this a top tier fruit (I would certainly put it under the 3 fruits you mention).  There are better varieties as some have mentioned but some are pretty bad.  To me, most seem to have a vegetal component but in the better varieties, there is enough fruity flavor & sweetness to offset this and make them more interesting.  Not a bad fruit to clear your palate after breakfast, for example, but not many people would be saying "oh boy, starfruit!" when they see one.

Another strike against this fruit is that it can be harmful to those with impaired kidney function so, if you have any kidney issues best to eat this sparingly, if at all.


Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: First Fruiting of Cola Nut (Cola acuminata)
« on: September 22, 2018, 01:53:17 AM »

Tried eating the Cola acuminata arils for first time. Not only palatable but kind of sweet. Have fresh seeds available now, if anyone is interesed PM me.

Thanks for the report.  Is there any flavor profile that they remind you of?  I had heard comparisons to peas & carrots for the arils of monkey colas.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Corynocarpus cribbianus
« on: September 18, 2018, 03:50:36 PM »
Anyone know anything about this fruit?  It evidently occurs in Aus, PNG, & the Solomon Islands.  Since rare fruiters like Mike T do not seem to have mentioned this (couldn't find in google search), I am assuming it is not worth attention.


Whatís the taste like?  I tried to read about it online but thereís not much information. Iím definitely interested in seeds.

Info is definitely hard to find on line.  I found the following, which isn't very helpful, on line (I have put a link to the doc in the library section):
Eugenia casearioides (HBK.) DC. Prodr. 3: 275. 1828. Myrtus
casearioides HBK. Nov. Gen. & Sp. 6: 145 [folio ed. 115]. 1823. Type
locality, "in monte Cocollar Cumanensium," i.e. on the Orinoco.
Distinctive chiefly in having the branchlets rather long-pubescent
with spreading hairs up to 0.5-0.7 mm. long. The pedicels are
short and the flowers glomerate, i.e. the axis of the raceme is very
short. The species is known chiefly from northern Venezuela, and
from one locality in Colombia (Norte de Santander).

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Registration of New Variety of Mango
« on: August 27, 2018, 03:52:42 PM »
I find myself really scratching my head over this string.  The original poster (N321), never mentioned patenting.  Maybe I misunderstood, but I did not get the impression he wanted to get rich off of this hypothetical mango, just wondered if there was a mechanism where it could be named at some central clearing house to avoid confusion with other mangoes.  Any sexually produced seed-grown plant is an individual clone and could conceivably be named and propagated (not saying this is always a good idea).  The notable thing about registration is that it ties a name to a seedling from a specific grower or hybridizer.  Otherwise, several people can give very different clones the same name and cause considerable confusion among growers.  A central registrar avoids this and sometimes doesn't even allow names that sound very similar to existing cultivars.

Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Registration of New Variety of Mango
« on: August 27, 2018, 01:59:20 AM »
Registrations & patents are two very different things.  I am sure that the US Patent office is not registering fruit tree cultivars.  Registering a cultivar with the appropriate organization generally does not grant you any type of protection like a patent does.  It only registers the clonal name, the parents (if known), and the person who bred (or perhaps found?) the cultivar.  I am not sure if there is an actual registrar of mango cultivars.  Various organizations do it for various plants.  For example, the Royal Horticultural Society in the UK is the registrar for orchids as well as some other ornamental plants.

If you are interested in pursuing it, the RHS mentions the International Society for Horticultural Science here:
that might be a good starting point to find out if there is a mango registrar somewhere.


I hope your stream has finally gone away, Oscar.

Its been raining all day here since morning.  Thankfully, it is not so heavy to form a stream here today.  For the prior three days, for much of the time, I have had a stream running about 15' from my house (about 3' from my lanai), making a small pond in the backyard before it flows off into the small pali in back of my house.

Rained all night long here. Have a stream coursing through length of my whole orchard. Short pause in rain right now at 11AM. No sign of clear sky or sun here.

Despite being teased with a small glimpse of the sun for about 1 1/2 hrs, the rains have been back the past couple of hours.  So far, only light to moderate but still not good with all the rain we have had (I'm guessing around 40").

The rain finally stopped here sometime early morning, I hope it is really over now.  Seems quiet this am but still completely socked in with clouds.  Our PV system has made virtually no power the last few days -- I hope the sun pops out at some point today.

Good luck to those on neighbor islands, it sounds like parts of Maui have probably gotten hammered too, hopefully the rest of the state will be spared anything too bad.


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