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JABO SCIONS FOR SALE NOW!
Plinia/Myrciaria (Jaboticaba) scions for sale now:

PLEASE EMAIL INQUIRIES TO FLYINGFOXFRUITS@gmail.com with the subject as "JABO SCIONS" or you can post here, or try to send me a PM on FB, and I will try to respond to all requests in an orderly and timely manner.

-minimum order: $20 domestic,$30 international
-shipping domestic is $7 priority mail
-shipping international starts at $14 for the slowest service, and typically cost approx $33 for priority mail for larger orders.

-minimum 2 cuttings per variety
-some varieties will sell out very fast, because of limited availability

approximate cutting sizes:
Small (S) 0.4cm diameter
Medium (M) 0.5-0.7cm diameter
Large (L) 1-1.5cm diameter
(All scions approx 6-8 inch in length)

-Plinia cauliflora hybrid (red/precoce jaboticaba)
(S) $3.5 (M) $5 (L) $7.5
-P. sp "Grimal"
(S) $5 (M) $8 (L) $10
-Plinia phitrantha var "Otto Andersen, Branca Vinho"
(s) $7.5
-P. corontata var "Restinga"
(S) $5 (M) $8
-P. cauliflora "Paulista"
(s) $4 (M) $6 (L) $8
-P. aureana "Branca/White"
(S) $5 (M) $7 (L) $10
-P. edulis "Cambuca"
(S) $7 (M) $10 (L) $12.50
-P. spiritosantensis
(s) $7.5
-P. grandifolia
(S) $7 (M) $10
-P. cauliflora hybrid "Escarlate"
(S) $7.5
-P. trunciflora "Cafe"
(s) $3.5 (M) $5 (L) $7.5
-P. phitrantha "costada"
(s) $7 (M) $10
-P. rivularis (I'm not sure what rootstock is compatible with this species, although rooting cuttings is possible)
(s) $10 (M) $12.5

-Myrciaria guaquiea (grafts onto M. glazioviana)
(S) $6 (M) $8
-M. strigipes (grafts onto M. glazioviana)
(s) $6 (M) $8
-M. vexator ((I'm not sure what rootstock is compatible with this species, although rooting cuttings is possible)
(s) $4 (M) $6
-M. glomerata (I'm not sure what rootstock is compatible with this species, although rooting cuttings is possible)
(s) $10

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / USPS irradiating packages?
« on: August 13, 2018, 12:57:58 PM »
I'm not sure if they are, but I've had a couple trees that I sent recently that were in perfect condition when they arrived, and they suddenly die afterwards...(maybe just because of some other reason, and because they are young?)

wondering how often the USPS irradiates packages?  I tried to look into it, but the information I found was vague.

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just making an announcement, as soon as I found out...

but what I have labeled in my collection as Plinia cauliflora (Otto Andersen) "Acu Paulista", is actually Plinia phitrantha (Otto Andersen) "Branca-Vinho"

SO, IF YOU GOT THE OTTO ANDERSEN ACU PAULISTA FROM ME, YOU NEED TO CHANGE THE NAME, TO P. PHITRANTHA (OTTO ANDERSEN) 'BRANCA-VINHO'

this mistake was due to the fact that there are so many (12 I believe in total) varieties that were selected by Otto Andersen.  With all of them having his name attributed to them, it was easy to confuse the botanical and varietal names.  Too many damn names to keep up with, but as a seller and collector of super rare fruits, I do my best!

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Taking a vote to see what the majority wants.

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I'm organizing a group to meet at Fruit and Spice park in November, on the 16th, @1030-11am

I would take the group on a tour of the park, and show them some of the lesser known fruits, mostly Annonas, Garcinias, Eugenias, Plinias, and other oddball species, not much of the Jackfruits, mangoes, lychees, longans and other more common fruits the park is famous for.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / the Annona spirit is watching you...
« on: July 17, 2017, 12:33:41 PM »


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http://www.nature.com/articles/srep13425

I wonder if it's possible to create a device that monitors electrical activity in plants, so we could test for viabliity on grafted scions?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / FL frosts and freezes 2017
« on: December 31, 2016, 02:17:37 PM »
here in a definite cold pocked zone 9a, we stayed at 32F freezing last night for what seemed like 5hr.  (I think JFK in NYC stayed at 33F...lol)

there was no wind, and humidity was at 99%....I'm waiting to see if there is delayed damage on the garcinia from Luc, which is full of new leaves...also the mulberries have fruits on them still...and jaboticabas flowering all over....Myrciaria strigipes and pitangatuba have flowers and fruits holding...if they got damaged, it will take a few days to notice...but I will post pics and updates.

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I'm getting a thread started for Annona scions 2017.

Feel free to post here if you have some for sale.

I'm not going to be grafting many Annonas this year, but will be selling lots of scions...I usually start selling them in February (depending on weather)....but I am willing to ship any time of year, as long as you accept that there are no refunds.

here is a quick list of what will be for sale, although there are no prices listed, I've tried to list the scions from least rare, to most rare...so cheapest to most expensive.

Geffner Atemoya
Lisa Atemoya
Kampong Mauve Sugar apple
Mr. Minh Atemoya
PPC (pet pac chong) Atemoya
Yucatan Sugar apple
Dream Atemoya
Big Red Sugar Apple
Annona cornifolia
Meiogyne cylindrocarpa (fingersop)
Annona muricata "miami" guanabana
A. scleroderma
A. dioica
A. globiflora
A. mucosa (Rollina deliciosa) "Monstrinho"
A. macroprophyllata (A. diversifolia) "Genova Red Illama"
A. reticulata "Kimber Red"
A. reticulata (unnamed yellow fruited variety, scions from NullZero)
A. reticulata (x squamosa?) "Vinho-Tinto"...from Luc of Mexico.
A. squamosa "Giant Mexican"
A. salzmannii "Beach Sugar Apple"

*possibility of selling root cuttings from Anonidium mannii (Junglesop) as well...so far looks like they may be relatively easy to root...i have some really long root cuttings to harvest.


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Possibly the largest pair of Junglesops in the USA?
approx 10ft tall, in 15 gal root pruner pots.

must buy them both for $1k ea, grand total $2,000

no shipping, local pick up only in Central FL (delivery might be possible for certain locations in FL for a fee)

for information please email FlyingFoxFruits@gmail.com

thank you




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I have been thinking about the devastation in Haiti, and wondering if we can come together to donate seeds (or plant material)?  I know some of the growers there were depending on cacao and coffee as a crop...I wonder if we can help somehow?


i found this thread from a while ago...

http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=10969.msg140753#msg140753

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If you want to buy some seriously excellent jam, get it from http://www.threesistersfarm.com. They are located right across the street, just North of Fruit and Spice Park, in Homestead, FL. The jam is perfection in a jar! Certified Organic too!




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An interesting subject to me...I wonder what exactly causes delayed incompatibility...I imagine, in certain cases, it's caused by chemicals (hormones? enzymes? Or something comparable to antibodies found in animals?)

I have a sugar Apple that was grafted onto custard Apple, which lasted a good 2yr, growing wonderfully, before suddenly dying...I assume it was delayed incompatibility....and not a pathogen that afflicted the plant...because the rootstock (Annona reticulata) is now growing happily...I wonder if the rootstock has a mechanism to reject the scion, in order to free itself from the oppression of the scion (A. squamosa), so it can reproduce.

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sometimes it can be difficult to determine when to harvest certain fruits (in my case guanabana)

in short, I have found that you can tell when certain fruits are ripe by percussing them with your finger.

gently tap the fruit, and you will hear a hollow sound...the same as you would with a watermelon.  I suppose the moisture in a ripe fruit allows the vibrations to reverberate a little bit, as opposed to when the fruit is still green, the dry unripe pulp will not allow for such a sound.

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about 5 yr ago, I accidentally figured out you can root Eugenia brasiliensis (Grumichama) via leafy cuttings.  I had stripped some seedlings of their leaves, letting them fall below onto the soil (which was a layer of 100% Canadian Sphagnum peat).  I kept the seedlings in the shade, as I was letting them recover from being separated from a community pot.  About 4 months after, I noticed the leaves on the soil were still green...i went to pick up a leaf, and saw it had a 4 inch long root.

I have never seen this propagation technique referenced in any book, or abstract.

it would be a valuable means of propagation, because Grumixama is a highly variable species that produces seedlings that aren't always true to type.

earlier this year I took some cuttings of a rare variegated variety.  It's been approx 5 month since I took the cuttings....the leaves are still healthy and green...I believe some of them have produced roots.  I'm afraid to disturb them now, but I will post pictures as soon as I can, to show how the root growth looks.

please stay tuned to this thread if you are interested in propagating Eugenia brasiliensis...you just might learn something new, that you won't be able to read in a book.

 ;D





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This variety of Plinia coronata is one with a bright future!

I have just a few seedlings left, price range $50-60, about 2yr old, approx 12-16 inch tall, with nice branching.

(I will be selling grafted trees, possibly later this year)

Here are the details:

-A rare variety of Plinia coronata that grows in a very hot, coastal region of Brazil (so it's extremely heat tolerant, and even tolerant of planting near the sea...most Plinias suffer near the ocean)

-the tree is precocious, reportedly fruiting in about 5-8yr from seed, unlike most varieties of Plinia coronata, that can take 15-20 yr to fruit.

-Plinia coronata var. Restinga is smaller than most varieties of Plinia coronata, most of them are very tall, growing over 30ft in Brazil.  This variety is compact, and can easily be kept under 15ft tall indefinitely, with proper pruning.

-the fruits are large, with thin skin, and sweet pulp.

please email inquires to flyingfoxfruits@gmail.com

thanks a bunch!




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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Unusual Suspects: Eugenia line up
« on: May 10, 2016, 10:44:11 PM »
a surly bunch of hardened Eugenias,

from left to right,

selloi, pyriformis (sweet type), calycina (debated), uniflora "zill dark", uniflora "Chamba", pitanga (the species! not the regular pitanga), itaguahiensis, reinwardtiana, uniflora (smooth type)



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seeds of Eugenia itaguahiensis (dwarf grumichama) available now, minimum order, 5 seeds.

they cost $3 ea.

a rare Eugenia that fruits easily in a pot (about 3yr from seed).  Very ornamental, very productive, and easy to grow.  Fruits taste just like Grumixama, but not quite as sweet.

please email flyingfoxfruits@gmail.com to place an order, and put "itaguahiensis" in the subject line, so I don't miss your email.

thanks kindly
Adam






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this thread may be of interest to some...
over the years I've collected many pitangatubas, from about 7-8 different sources...

I noticed that some of the oldest trees, (which must have been over 10yr old when I got them) have issues with setting fruit.

after years of waiting for them to set fruits, I finally lost my patience...

last year I planted them out in my yard...and this year topworked them with some of the best varieties I have found...putting two varieties on each tree.

here are some pics of the two trees I topworked....I will post some updates as they progress...once they are setting fruits I'll be really happy...











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http://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=11876.msg152528#msg152528

We discussed this plant a bit earlier, in the how to graft Jaboticaba (Myrciaria/Plinia) thread, which I posted above.

here is an updated picture of the tree, (M. dubia, grafted onto M. vexator, appox 2yr ago)







I believe this plant (graft combination) represents an opportunity for growers in South, FL, where the climate is good for growing Camu camu, but the soil is horrible (lime rock, with high pH), making it almost impossible to grow this species, without digging a big hole, and replacing the native soil with acid sand, or peat moss, and also drenching with chelated Fe.

The rootstock I've chose to employ, is the Blue jaboticaba (M. vexator).  It can thrive in the native soils of South FL, as long as it's fertilized, and properly irrigated.  In theory, this resistance for high pH (lime rock soil), should be imparted into the grafted tree, making the scion (M. dubia) more capable of surviving the adverse conditions of South FL soil.  Although the trees will be more resistant to high pH, I'm sure they will still require periodic drenches with chelated Fe, until they are established...but the amount of product required to keep the plants thriving would be a fraction of what you'd have to use if you tried to keep M. dubia alive on it's own roots.

It would make me really happy to see a grove of Camu camu fruiting in the Redlands of FL (even if it's a very small grove, or just one tree! haha!)


 

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