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Tropical Vegetables and Other Edibles / Re: Thai eggplant id
« on: May 09, 2019, 02:46:14 PM »
☺️No, thank you, im not growing them currently. Just fascinated with them since most of us in the west use only one eggplant variety.

They grow these types commercially here in the Coachella Valley in addition to the Italian, Japanese, Chinese, Indian and of course the American eggplant.






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Count me in for 2 Dolores and 2 Jalisco Red. Willing to put down a deposit or pay in advance if necessary.

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I think I'd rather take our dry occasional 125 degree day and 110 degree August average than 90-95 degree high humidity days in the south. I remember visiting a family member in Shreveport during the summer years ago. Wow. I don't know how you guys do it.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Seaberry
« on: April 28, 2019, 02:22:45 PM »
Tried to grow these from seed because I thought they were interesting. They sprouted up readily enough but just failed to thrive after temps went over 105, then died. I had them in filtered shade next to a bunch of other seedlings, that aren't exactly known for their desert heat tolerance, which did fine. Not sure what I did wrong. Then again, I bought them off Ebay so who knows what seeds I really got.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Australian Finger Lime Culture
« on: April 25, 2019, 01:03:33 AM »
It seems after the bibliography that you can expect up to 60g for each fruit but 20-30g are more common values. Having more seeds would translate to bigger fruits probably

I would be thrilled to get into the 20-30g range. 20-25g is about the size of a kumquat which is much larger than the fruits I have seen so far on my little tree. The 12g Pvaldes mentioned is what I'm seeing on mine. If anyone is getting 60g finger limes, please post the cultivar. I'd love to get that variety.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Australian Finger Lime Culture
« on: April 24, 2019, 04:59:35 AM »
I planted some in full sun and they slowly croaked. Later i read that most are understory trees and appreciate some shade, especially in the tropics. I'm trying again in a more shaded locations and so far they seem a lot happier.

Weird. I bought one from Home Depot over 2 years ago, it's a purple with green flesh variety simply called "Dwarf Finger Lime" I believe. The first year I had it partially shaded because I was afraid of what our sun would do to it. I even planted a castor bean plant to the west of it to provide protection. However it looked like it took our heat fine so this last summer I removed the shade and cut down the castor bean so it received sun all day long. It did fine other than a few leaves on top yellowing at the edges a little. We are also one of the hottest places in the nation outside of death valley. We had 5 days of 120 degrees or more and an average August temp of 110 degrees. It took our winter just fine as well that destroyed a lot of my subtropicals. Tough little tree.

It also fruited last year, and is fruiting this year despite yesterday being 100 degrees, today 103, and tomorrow 104. The tree is still no more than 5 feet tall but the leaves are bright green and beautiful. Looks in the best shape I have ever seen it. That said, the fruits are very small which is disappointing, like a little over half my pinkie and smaller in diameter. I'll see what the fruit looks like this year, if they are small again, I'll probably try and put a full size, grafted variety right up against it. I didn't see a graft line. Since it was from HD, I'm guessing it's a seedling.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mulch problem - need your help
« on: April 17, 2019, 05:40:03 PM »
Just out of curiosity. What was your reaction to the neighbor's complaints when they approached you before they went to the city? Did you tell them to go fly a kite? Or did they just go directly to the city to complain?

It's going to look pretty cool once the trees are big, like mini forest in the neighborhood but it does look kind of junky atm with all the mulch you can see in between them.



Alternately, OP could consider fencing in the property?



Very good point

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mulch problem - need your help
« on: April 17, 2019, 05:25:52 PM »


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: To Mulch or Not to Mulch (Fruit Trees)
« on: April 14, 2019, 12:10:47 PM »
My neighbor just told me that landscapers had heavily mulched her avocado tree (week or 2 ago?), and it quickly died. It was a large tree. The stump is at least 2 feet in diameter. Will try to get more info.

I have heard the same thing happen to others. Begs the question if there were herbicides or other harmful chemicals in the "mulch".

I only get hardwood mulch from the tree companies. If it's landscapers, the mulch probably has lots of grass and weeds in it, and much more likely to have chemicals in it, in addition to tons of weed seeds.

Is there something specific you like about hard wood vs softwood?  My tree trimmer guy will being whatever I ask for.  Ive been getting pine lately.

I dont know why I said hardwood. I meant like hard wood chip mulch from trees. Not soft grass clippings, weeds, palm or brush landscaping mulch.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: To Mulch or Not to Mulch (Fruit Trees)
« on: April 13, 2019, 01:18:43 PM »
My neighbor just told me that landscapers had heavily mulched her avocado tree (week or 2 ago?), and it quickly died. It was a large tree. The stump is at least 2 feet in diameter. Will try to get more info.

I have heard the same thing happen to others. Begs the question if there were herbicides or other harmful chemicals in the "mulch".

I only get hardwood mulch from the tree companies. If it's landscapers, the mulch probably has lots of grass and weeds in it, and much more likely to have chemicals in it, in addition to tons of weed seeds.

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Hi W.F we had the same thing here in Tampa Two Winters ago and last year I dint even get a single Mango, or Anonnas R. this year everything is back with a vengeance.

Carlos

As zone pushers we are going to take our licks haha

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Here is my neighbor's guamuchil. This was his 1st tree till he planted those palms... out in the open.




Nice. Sorry, when I said out in the open I meant like in ranch acreage "out in the open". Tens of meters away from any house, building, wall or large tree. I have some 5-8' guamuchils in containers up against a barn. Looks like they mostly all survived except for their tops. All my mangoes and guavas 15 miles away at my home in the city did just fine, they didn't even defoiliate, the leaves just look a little beat up on top, and purple in the case of the guavas.

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My guamuchil got hit 27 temps..now its coming back nicely

That's up against a wall. My trees up against structure fared much better than my tree out in the open.


All 11 of my planted guamuchil trees including 2 that were 12-13 feet have not come back and appear dead.


Guamuchil often comes back even after a hard freeze, given enough time and water.

I dont think these are coming back. The biggest guamuchil only has green 6 inches up. The rest of them appear graveyard dead all the way down. There are big guamuchils here everywhere, so I figured they were gtg in this area including a huge tree 200 meters away but even that one looks like it took some damage this winter. Supposedly our low was only 28 degrees. Weird how every guava toughed it out with non losing more than 30% of their limbs but these guamuchils which I thought were tough succumbed. I think it was the week of wet overcast weather we had immediately following our frosts.


The biggest one




The rest look like this all the way down.



I have tons of replacement seedlings from bigger and better fruits but I just wanted them for shade and wind protection. Oh well my project will take a 2 year set back.  :-\

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This was a brutal year.

Pretty much everything not up against structure suffered greatly or died

All 11 of my planted guamuchil trees including 2 that were 12-13 feet have not come back and appear dead.

I have 5 sapodillas 1 Morena, 1 Alano, 3 Hasya. This is their 3rd winter and all are close to structure except for the Morena. The Morena, and 2 Hasya appear dead. The Alano and one Hasya barely survived with lots of dieback. Very disappointed in their frost tolerance.

All the mangoes up against structure survived. A sweet tart died, another sweet tart plus a coco cream has died down to the graft but they are already shooting up new growth from the base. A 4 year old LZ completely defoiliated and had dieback 2 to 3 feet from top but is already bursting with new growth.

2 of the 4 12ft+ Moringas appear dead. The other 2 are rapidly shooting out growth a couple of feet from their base.

The white sapote not up against structure defoiliated but are already bursting with growth.

2 of the 4 passion fruit vines are dead. The other 2 exploding with new growth now.

A small ice cream bean tree is dead. The 2 up against structure survived but are slowly growing back.

Dragon fruits under tree didn't fare that bad

Bananas damaged but are already coming back

The Australian finger lime and feijoas completely unaffected

A mamey sapote up against structure also looks unaffected, surprisingly didn't lose a single leaf.

I have over a dozen white and pink guavas. Not a single one died including one out in the open that has a trunk the thickness of my pinkie. They defoiliated but all are now bursting with new growth.

Live and Learn

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Would you accept a tree in this condition?
« on: February 25, 2019, 06:18:46 PM »
Have you tried to grow date palm ?.

I'm literally surrounded by thousands of medjool, barhi and deglet palms. We have 8 medjools on property.

Edit: I know a date farmer who has a barhi seedling that has a red blush to it with fantastic size and super sweet taste. If I add one more date palm that would be it. But I doubt he will be selling any shoots any time soon lol

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Would you accept a tree in this condition?
« on: February 21, 2019, 08:10:45 PM »
Thanks. I might have to do that one of these days. I sent one of our drivers to Mimosa in LA last year but it's kinda of a tight fit on those streets for a commercial vehicle.  ;D

Plus their prices are insane.  I think it was 55$ for a 15gal AP tree at atkins. 

Also cherimoya/atemoya trees are pretty easy to grow and graft from seed.

Don't make me feel bad. I just paid $120 with shipping for an AP 4-5' 3 gallon haha. I know it's too hot here for Cherimoyas or Soursop. Sugar apples do ok, but our winters will kill them. I'm crossing my fingers to see how an atemoya will do. Will probably just be another expensive experiment lol

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Would you accept a tree in this condition?
« on: February 21, 2019, 05:04:54 PM »
Thanks. I might have to do that one of these days. I sent one of our drivers to Mimosa in LA last year but it's kinda of a tight fit on those streets for a commercial vehicle.  ;D

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Would you accept a tree in this condition?
« on: February 21, 2019, 03:02:37 PM »
Well this kinda sucks. Seller decided to just refund instead of sending a replacement when I emailed him about when replacement tree would arrive. Actually he didn't even respond, I just got an email from PP saying the money had been refunded. He still profited though, cost him $7.50 in shipping but charged $15. And I'm out the $7.50 for return shipping. Oh well, at least he refunded. Live and learn.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Would you accept a tree in this condition?
« on: February 11, 2019, 04:41:07 PM »
Seller informed me that wound would heal up "automatically" and be no problem. When I told him I wanted a replacement, he immediately said he'd take it back and replace it, so good on him.

Will you have to pay for shipping?
Do they have a "store" for you to go in and look at their inventory?

Yeah, I'll have to pay for shipping. Probably around $15. Worth it to get a decent looking tree.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Would you accept a tree in this condition?
« on: February 10, 2019, 11:07:45 PM »
Seller informed me that wound would heal up "automatically" and be no problem. When I told him I wanted a replacement, he immediately said he'd take it back and replace it, so good on him.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Would you accept a tree in this condition?
« on: February 10, 2019, 04:03:18 PM »
To be honest its not pretty but most likely will grow right out of that and will never make any difference in the long run.

The scar at the bottom is the only concerning part.  As long as that doesnt get worse I would worry about it much.

It's missing a third of the cambium layer around the base. Probably a lot more prone to infection at that point as well. Plus it's starting to flake or split right there. Anyways mistakes happen all the time, I make plenty of them.  ;D I'm not going to get all excited at this point, I'll just wait for his response.

In hindsight I should have taken a photo of it the way it was shipped but I didn't notice the scar because it was heavily wrapped with not one, not two but three types of tape. Clear carton sealing tape, masking tape and finally electric tape lol. When I cut through the tape and quickly moved the root ball to its new home, only then did I notice the problem.

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How cold did u get waterf?

Not quite certain, I don't live on the property where the trees are at. Accuweather said 30-33(it's said 30 before though and I've temped out 27). But they've seen temp like this before and came out ok. I covered them this winter just like before. Difference is the the cold was followed by a week of rain and overcast skies so they were never able to warm up.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Would you accept a tree in this condition?
« on: February 10, 2019, 01:06:55 PM »
I would not accept that Tree, is that a third graft on the very top?


Not certain bottom 2 notches are grafts. But yeah, that's the graft way up top. Still has tape.




Hopefully they respond on Monday

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This is the 3rd winter for all my subtropicals and they are torn up. They survived the first 2 winters fine but this winter they look really bad even though I covered them.

Alano sapodilla - still has some green leaves, I think it will live



Sapodilla Hasya - think it's dead now. I don't see any green



Lemon Zest - it will live. Still has green leaves on inside and is green pretty far up on main branches



Sweet tart - I think it will live. It's green 3 feet up on main trunk



Coco cream - hanging on to one green leaf. I'm hoping it will live



My 3 year old guamuchil - will live but is completely defoiliated



At my home in the city, the mangoes and guavas don't look happy but they are still green. Luckily, a guy I gave some ST and CC budwood to last spring said he would give me a couple of young ST and CC trees that he's had in his greenhouse. Pays to be nice sometimes  ;D If the mangoes I have now take off in the spring, I'm going to move them next to the house before it gets really hot.

The sapodillas and mangoes really surprised me. Seems like they took the winter worse than the tropical guavas. Most of the guavas defoiliated but none appear dead and green pretty far up.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Would you accept a tree in this condition?
« on: February 09, 2019, 03:00:32 PM »
I ordered an African Pride atemoya from
http://www.chfruittreenursery.com. I couldn't find an AP from any of the sellers I normally buy from so I took a chance on these guys. They sent it quickly, it arrived yesterday afternoon. I was putting it in my greenhouse when I noticed the trunk damaged. Would you accept a tree in this condition?






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