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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« on: October 20, 2018, 07:34:54 PM »
You really should get ahold of some Sugar Dragon variety. I personally havnt tried the new, larger yellow fruits that have started showing up recently, but I know I wasn't a fan of the original yellow Megalanthus. It wasn't its sugar content either that turned me off, in fact, it was almost the opposite. To me, Megalanthus yellow tastes almost entirely of sugar, like eating old time rock candy, pure sweet but no other flavor. I do know some of the darker reds and magentas are getting pushed into high sugar production, but for me its not all about sweet. Add a bit of fruity flavor to that, though , and now we're talking.
Having said that, Im hoping I can get a chance to check out that new yellow variety sometime soon to I can give an honest, personal, comparison.

Its just sugar flavor again.

I had some sugar bomb american beauties here that were as sweet as the yellows plus a nice grape floral rose flavor.  Excellent.  I prefer that any day over the giant yellow. The fruits are larger and easier to grow too.


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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Sugar cane starters
« on: October 20, 2018, 01:24:13 PM »
The sugar cane juice from Simonís plants are absolutely amazing. Just wish I had the space to grow some.

There should be so much you guys can come get car loads of it for free in a couple years.

I shipped everyones orders this morning.  Emails with tracking are in your paypal email address boxes. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Todayís Harvest from the orchard
« on: October 20, 2018, 12:51:09 PM »
This is another project we have been working on for 3 or 4 months.  Just finished a week or so ago.  We cleared a quarter or half an acre or so of hillside and planted 50 mango trees.  The trees are on a 15x15 spacing. Theres some FL grafted trees, some FL seed stocks and some CA rootstock grafted with FL selections.  It doesnt look like much now but these trees are out on a prime location here with full south exposure and deep draining DG soil in the hottest are of coastal CA. 


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: GEM avocado in Los Angeles area?
« on: October 20, 2018, 08:55:51 AM »
Matt, home depot trees are fine.  They come from the same nursery as most of the other places selling avo trees.  Most likely lavern nursery.  Ive got several of their hass trees.

If you get a large tree they have a few issues.  They usually are staked up because they are weak from being in a nursery forever.  The roots are not in great shape after being in a pot for years.  And when you plant a tree that already has fruit on it the tree is going to put its energy into that instead of establishing good roots and solid branches.  You are much beter off starting with a 5gal tree that isnt staked up.  Look for one with a nice single main trunk that is standing on its own.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Todayís Harvest from the orchard
« on: October 19, 2018, 09:32:45 PM »
Simon, thanks fo the sugar cane juice.  We have been drinking it with limes and water.  Im about to sample some with some pomagranite liqueur and then go for the key lime margarita with reposado and make some guacamole.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cold hardy avocados for sale
« on: October 19, 2018, 07:08:42 PM »
Stewart is much better than mexicola.  You really should start seeds there and then get scionwood from someone here and have a grafted tree true to type.  Then you can do whatever you want with it, use scions or seeds to sell and propogate.
Are you sure? I've read 26Fį cold tolerant for stewart and 16Fį for mexicola...

I was talking about the fruit quality being much better.

If all you care about is cold tolerance and you believe everything you read online sure grow Mexicola.  Are there any real scientific studies done with these varieties to test cold tolerance?  Where did the 26 and 16f numbers come from?  The same farm/university study or two random people on the internet?

Also if you get seeds of mexicola, or any other avocado its probably not going to be a pure mexican plant.  Most likely cross pollinated unless the person with the seeds says otherwise.  In that case all bets are off for its cold tolerance.  You would need a grafted tree of mexicola I would think to guarantee the trait you want.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Todayís Harvest from the orchard
« on: October 19, 2018, 05:24:41 PM »
You are not going to be happy but wonderful is a really sub par pomagranite.  I have one of them.  The seeds are big and hard and leave you with a mouth of seed.  Im going to yank mine and put in a new one.  Ive got a couple other types that are keepers. 

I got my plants as little starter sleves for 20$ from the local nursery.  They were dave wilson starter plants. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Todayís Harvest from the orchard
« on: October 19, 2018, 02:57:10 PM »
Wonderful fruit basket, Simon.
I have parfianka and sirnevyi pomegranate trees,
Have not gotten single fruit in last 2.5 years despite
Fertilizing. Thinking to yank them out.

-FruitFool

That sounds really strange.  Poms are prolific with very little effort here.  Did they bloom?

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Pink key finger lime,  pink mexican caviar, pink key lime caviar,  mexican finger lime....

Kevins pink caviar

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Kevin this is very cool.  Is this your own creation?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: GEM avocado in Los Angeles area?
« on: October 19, 2018, 12:49:28 AM »
Matt,
If your goal is a Hass-like avocado and you want to keep the tree to 15 feet, maybe you should just plant a Hass. I have a Hass that I keep to 15 feet, and it's easily done. I'm certain you can manage it.

That would be too easy...

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cold hardy avocados for sale
« on: October 18, 2018, 02:53:14 PM »
Stewart is much better than mexicola.  You really should start seeds there and then get scionwood from someone here and have a grafted tree true to type.  Then you can do whatever you want with it, use scions or seeds to sell and propogate. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: White Jade Pineapple
« on: October 18, 2018, 02:49:23 PM »
Not sure about leaf miner on DF.  Probably if they arent allowed on your oranges they have to go somewhere...

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: White Jade Pineapple
« on: October 18, 2018, 02:05:35 PM »
Nice job Simon, am surprised at the low brix.  The store bought "twistees" are not only sweet and rich, they're free starts.

My dos centavos - no Osmocote near the leaves or cup, only scratched into the top of the soil.  The salts are too concentrated at the tissue where it's contacting.   I use a Polyon 18-4-9 or Osmocote Indoor/Outdoor which is still high N.  Trust me, that Peters applied often in the cup with an occasional fresh water flush will set those plants on fire.  That's what they do in the commercial fields, fertilize using overhead spray booms running down the rows.

 

Mark, I put some osmocote pro 8 month in all the pots and some of the fancy organic stuff with innoculant when I made the mix.  I used cactus mix and perlite in 7gal pots.  Using RO water 2 to 3 times then RO with dynagro foliage pro.  And foliar feeding dynagro and seaweed extract occasionally.   I can switch it up and use the peters jacks high performance on it too.  Im going to run half of them in the greenhouse over winter.  Only issue with that is when I bring things outside in spring the foliage is not as hardened off as plants that stay outside.  Even its a problem on dragonfruit.  The plants get a bit spoiled in the GH with all the humidity and shade cloth.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Sugar cane starters
« on: October 18, 2018, 01:58:46 PM »
Getting more pieces tomorrow from Simon and filling orders.  There were a ton of people who ordered.  Thank you everyone. If anyone wants more today is the last day to let me know.  We are going to harvest and ship tomorrow and saturday and close the sale.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Sugar cane starters
« on: October 17, 2018, 07:19:14 PM »
I used some of simons juice to make margaritas that came out excellent.  Home grown key lime, sugar cane juice, splash of water, and a shot of reposado.

You could also add passionfruit juice or other acidic fruit/citrus with it or add to a smoothie...  I cant wait to get these established here. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: GEM avocado in Los Angeles area?
« on: October 17, 2018, 02:59:59 PM »
FYI: The GEM Avocado was named after commercial Dragon Fruit grower Gray Martin. GEM is his initials.

A picture of Gray on the Left.



Ricshaw, whats the patent or legalities surrounding propogation of gem avo trees?  Any ideas?  I would propogate some of these trees but don't want anyone kicking my door in at 3am or sending me a million dollar fine.  Seems like a lot of people are asking for it.

I think it is a Patent variety. That depends, I am not an expert... Do you plan on selling trees labeled GEM?



BTW: Gray Martin DOES NOT own the patent. I think the University Of California and/or Brokaw does.

I am not planning on anything.  Just curious how serious they are about people not selling these trees.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: pulling out white sapote
« on: October 17, 2018, 02:44:37 PM »
It will not like having its tap root severed.  But, they are pretty tough and can be moved.  I planted one and then decided later to move it.  It was a seedling plant and about 3 or 4 ft tall when I dug it up and moved it.  So you should be OK.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: GEM avocado in Los Angeles area?
« on: October 17, 2018, 02:38:14 PM »
FYI: The GEM Avocado was named after commercial Dragon Fruit grower Gray Martin. GEM is his initials.

A picture of Gray on the Left.



Ricshaw, whats the patent or legalities surrounding propogation of gem avo trees?  Any ideas?  I would propogate some of these trees but don't want anyone kicking my door in at 3am or sending me a million dollar fine.  Seems like a lot of people are asking for it. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: GEM avocado in Los Angeles area?
« on: October 17, 2018, 02:27:35 PM »
I would just get a regular hass tree or a reed.  Its not that difficult to keep them a manageable size.  Especially if you are in a regular sized back yard.  You going to want a vigorous tree like hass that will establish quickly otherwise you are waiting 4 or 5 years for less vigorous types to give you fruit.

Lamb hass is a good (excellent) one also as a season extender for hass.  Still have some hanging on my tree from spring 2017.  I would rather have a regular hass though if only can grow 1 tree.

Holiday grows really bad here.  I have 2 of them and they both are all shaggy and droopy and not vigorous enough for the massive fruit they set.  You will be waiting a long time for holiday to mature and give a decent crop and actually hold fruit to maturity.  And then the trees want to flop over and lean around.  Another waste of space tree IMO.  Much better off with reed tree.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Wurtz Avocado from Excalibur is Type AB?
« on: October 17, 2018, 01:56:20 PM »
Home Depot in Vegas just started selling Wurtz (aka Little Cado). Never seen them for sale here before. First time I've seen Home Depot sell any avocados here actually.

Bought a couple to go with my 1+ year old Fuerte, Mexicola, and Aravaipa. I'll be very cautiously optimistic.

From everything Iíve read itís a very mediocre tasting avocado if grown outside of Florida. What are the average lows in your area? Been thinking about adding a mexicola to my collection as well.

Mexicola is maybe worse than mediocre.  Small fruit big seed, low oil.  Birds peck through them and zero in on the black fruit.  Waste of space IMO.  About to yank mine and put in something better.  Also the mexican avos dont seem to like a lot of heat.  They need cooler weather to be happy.  Thry come from high elevation in mex.

Stewart is much better, larger fruit smaller seed better flavor higher oil.  Still grows like crap in the heat.  Not salt tolerant either.  My mexican trees look the worse of all my avocado trees.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Sugar cane starters
« on: October 17, 2018, 12:27:55 PM »
Iím so used to seeing no shipping to CA that itís kind of refreshing to see some other place be on the list. Why India though?

Because they waste my time asking a million questions and never buy anything.  Nothing against anyone personally.  Just a few people ruined it for the other billion people in India.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: White Jade Pineapple
« on: October 17, 2018, 12:09:54 PM »
roblack, your plants do look like they're not getting enough sun. WJ leaves should have the reddish color like the ones in Brad's photos.

Brad, are the bigger pots short 5 gal or 3 gal?

Is it a good time to fertilize pineapples now? I did the osmocote in the center like Jim Neitzel suggested before but it burned the core. Now I apply it off center and mostly just forget to fertilize.

The larger pots are 7gal pots

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Papaya questions
« on: October 16, 2018, 10:29:38 PM »
Maybe figure out something to grow as a windbreak? Not for everyone but I'm using an edible timber bamboo on one side and seagrape hedge with coconut trees on another side. Windbreaks can be natural and even multi-purpose. My choices are also for hurricane resistance, I guess in Cali fire might be a consideration.

Yeah fire is a problem and also its on a steep hillside so its not really easy to surround everything with trees.  I am planting some trees but its never going to really do that much.  We are on top of a mountain and get nailed by the wind.

Trees are also expensive and need to be irrigated here.  Im planting passionfruit on the dear fence and propogating eucalyptus and jacarandas from seed but thats a slow process.  I got some other cool seeds from florida called yellow jacaranda or yellow poinciana (Peltophorum).  Just sprouted a bunch of those to use for wind breaks.

Heres a photo from the next mountain over pointing back to my house.  The garden has grown a little but you can see the fruit trees below the house. Need to get a newer photo from over there.







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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Papaya questions
« on: October 16, 2018, 10:55:49 AM »
I noticed that one is not straight out of the ground.  Unfortunately its very windy here and lots of my trees end up like this.  The prevailing winds bend the trees when they are young.  Now today the wind has turned and we have strong santa ana winds (hot and dry) coming in from AZ and NV beating the crap out of everything.

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