The Tropical Fruit Forum

Your jak from last year looks like a Bangkok Lemon ("BL") however they do grow pretty true from seed (not always and not exact but the BL has known to be very close) in that regardless of whether it is grafted with one side the graft and one side the rootstock or a seedling, you may not be able to tell the difference.

You are assuming that it was grafted onto BL rootstock.

Make sure to spray with copper right after.

In your previous experiments, did you fully submerse the plants like you're doing now with the hybrid?

HELP! I have done my homework and I would like to try to grow the achacha and the garcinia intermedia. Problem is, I can't find them!  I found 2 places in PR, but does anyone know of a place in Florida?

Patrick (Pj1881) has a grafted G. intermedia for sale. Excalibur in Lake Worth also has some larger grafted G. intermedia.

Harry, (HMHausman) may have some of the achachairu seedlings for sale. Not sure though. He may not be willing to part with his seedlings.

As i pointed out before, red coloration is only important in American and European mango markets. Asians don't care about mango coloration. They will certainly buy green mangos. They look for good taste, and buy cultivars that have reputation for very good taste. Mango is still a rather new fruit in American markets and marketers have trained consumers to expect mangos to be red colored.
Oscar

I want to see a nice range of colors with the mangos. It's so boring to have a green or yellow mango. The oranges, purples and reds look so nice.

What you are saying is true for individuals, not for nurseries. Certified nurseries don't need to get individual inspections of each package for nematodes. They get inspected once a year by ag, and then get an yearly permit.
Oscar

I now remember the lady actually telling me that. The reason why I am still confused on how plant o gram is doing it, is because he buys the plants from other nurseries where I know many of the trees weren't grown above the ground.

Then there is the nursery near here that is mailing the plants to CA and using a fake return address. Is it worth facing jail time, like that citrus nursery, over a few bucks?

Hello Friends,

I guess I'll throw my 2 cents in here.  I started buying from Mickey about 2 years ago, as he is one of the few nurseries that ship to California.  He is absolutely Great!  A true gentleman with a generous heart.  He also takes pictures so that you can pick out the exact tree you want.  What other Nursery does that......NONE!  Plus, most of the 3 gallon trees he sells could easily be sold as 7 gallon so you are really getting a good deal, and he always throws in a free plant, so that makes it even a better deal.  The only high-priced item he has is the Maha Chanok, and its because he has to buy them retail.  I know he buys from wholesale nurseries, but I also know that he propagates and grafts as well.  He is very trustworthy and a truly nice guy.  If there is ever a problem, he'll take care of it right away.  You can't go wrong with Plant-o-gram and Mickey.

Jacob

I spoke with the FL Department of Ag yesterday and I don't understand how he is able to ship to CA without charging a very high price. First there is the Fire Ant treatment that is required for every plant shipped from FL to CA. That has to be inspected by the USDA of FL D of A I think. Then there is the burrowing nematode restriction which requires every plant to have lived its entire life 18"+ off the ground. It also requires a $40 test to make sure the tree does not have burrowing nematode. If he is not doing all of that, he is doing something illegal. Also, fruit can't be shipped to CA due to the caribbean fruit fly problem here. I'd be wary of the feds trying to fine people.

I want to try the royal purple fruit. It looks good. How can I get budwood from those trees?

Here is what I found. I think Sqam may have written this article. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osteen_%28mango%29

did you buy a refractometer ?

Yup. It should be here on Friday.

There are ones with higher brix. Jeff posted an article in GW with some brix tests done in the 90s and Kari didn't have the highest brix. Then again, brix alone doesn't make it the sweetest because the others could have had higher brix but more acidity so you wouldn't notice the brix as much etc. So I don't know.

I also read an article from PR where B-17 had a higher brix. For me, the sweetest alone isn't important because it could have a high brix and just be insipid. Kari does have a good flavor though. So does Bell. I will see if I can do a brix comparison of some carambola this weekend and get back to you.

Yes, that's the one. Seebabat is often called the black pulasan, but it's really dark purple exterior color. All the pulasans you folks are tasting are improved and selected cultivars. Wild pulasans growing in Borneo are very inferior fruit.
Here are some pulasans putting on a Happy Valentine's Day Face:
Oscar

Awesome pic. Makes me want some pulasan right now.

Very interesting what you said about the wild pulasan being inferior. I wonder how many inferior fruit could be so vastly improved by continuous selection? Maybe we should not give up on any fruit because it's possible that in that fruit are the genes to make a really good tasting cultivar.