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Question for the FL Avocado Kings (ie, Carlos et al :-)
« on: July 28, 2014, 07:23:00 PM »
I need 3 or 4 really good Florida avocado trees with the following characteristics:

 - Sets fruit outside of mango season
 - A good substitute for california avocadoes

Lately, I've found that there are some pretty darn good west indian type cadoes, and I have a few new spots to plant a few trees (we bought the lot next door to us :-). I bought an oro negro and am looking for 2 or 3 more that are oily / rich and that will give me a long season worth of cado lovin.

Suggestions?

Carlos?
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Re: Question for the FL Avocado Kings (ie, Carlos et al :-)
« Reply #1 on: July 28, 2014, 07:35:13 PM »
Jeff Congrats On The lot man ! , Its a nice size lot ! ....will you have to fence it ?

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Re: Question for the FL Avocado Kings (ie, Carlos et al :-)
« Reply #2 on: July 28, 2014, 07:48:25 PM »
I need 3 or 4 really good Florida avocado trees with the following characteristics:

 - Sets fruit outside of mango season
 - A good substitute for california avocadoes

Lately, I've found that there are some pretty darn good west indian type cadoes, and I have a few new spots to plant a few trees (we bought the lot next door to us :-). I bought an oro negro and am looking for 2 or 3 more that are oily / rich and that will give me a long season worth of cado lovin.

Suggestions?

Carlos?

Congrats! :) Would you be interested in growing glenn x lemon zest and glenn x nam doc mai #4 seedlings in the future?  ;)
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Re: Question for the FL Avocado Kings (ie, Carlos et al :-)
« Reply #3 on: July 28, 2014, 08:04:55 PM »
An expert I am not, but I strongly recommend the cannonball avocado that Bender has sold---I think you tasted it before.  That's the closest to the high-oil hass taste that I have had down here in FL.  Hopefully, he will propagate the trees next year.

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Re: Question for the FL Avocado Kings (ie, Carlos et al :-)
« Reply #4 on: July 28, 2014, 08:10:12 PM »
I need 3 or 4 really good Florida avocado trees with the following characteristics:

 - Sets fruit outside of mango season
 - A good substitute for california avocadoes

Lately, I've found that there are some pretty darn good west indian type cadoes, and I have a few new spots to plant a few trees (we bought the lot next door to us :-). I bought an oro negro and am looking for 2 or 3 more that are oily / rich and that will give me a long season worth of cado lovin.

Suggestions?

Carlos?

Awesome! Glad you got the lot next door.

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Re: Question for the FL Avocado Kings (ie, Carlos et al :-)
« Reply #5 on: July 28, 2014, 08:15:02 PM »
HAHAHA thanks, guys. Believe it or not, I already have the entire lot planned out. 35 trees baby :-).

I'm replacing a good portion of that nasty lime rock with real soil. Having a guy with heavy machinery coming in a few days.

That cado from benders was delicious. I'd love to find something similar in quality to that.
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Re: Question for the FL Avocado Kings (ie, Carlos et al :-)
« Reply #6 on: July 28, 2014, 09:40:57 PM »
Carlos is recommending Blas as the best early avocado (but not "outside of mango season").  He's testing a whole slew of them, as you may well know.  Congrats on the new lot, Jeff!  35 trees?  You're creating envy, man!  (I'd love to see the list.)
« Last Edit: July 28, 2014, 09:50:56 PM by johnb51 »
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Re: Question for the FL Avocado Kings (ie, Carlos et al :-)
« Reply #7 on: July 28, 2014, 09:51:56 PM »
Nice work on the lot. Im jealous.
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Re: Question for the FL Avocado Kings (ie, Carlos et al :-)
« Reply #8 on: July 28, 2014, 09:53:50 PM »
congrats on the new lot!!!

I'm definitely far from an expert on this subject...but, how about Monroe?

(not sure if it's a good substitute for Ca cado, but it's a great fruit!  and is supposed to be ripening around Jan)
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Re: Question for the FL Avocado Kings (ie, Carlos et al :-)
« Reply #9 on: July 29, 2014, 07:24:02 AM »
Jeff congrats on the lost!
What do you consider the time for mango season?
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Re: Question for the FL Avocado Kings (ie, Carlos et al :-)
« Reply #10 on: July 29, 2014, 10:27:19 AM »
I thought about Monroe, but I already have an oro negro that covers a similar period.

For me, mango season is May to Sept, so anything outside of that range is bonus, but anything inside is hard to keep up with as the piles of mangoes build up. A good March / spring cado and a good Oct / fall avocado would be fantastic to fill out both sides of the oro negro.
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Re: Question for the FL Avocado Kings (ie, Carlos et al :-)
« Reply #11 on: July 29, 2014, 12:00:41 PM »
Jeff Congrats on the Lot . Does this mean you will be selling fruit in the next 3-5 years or so?
That would be great for me when i make my yearly trek to Fl
Hope you are in good shape to be maintaining that lot :)

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Re: Question for the FL Avocado Kings (ie, Carlos et al :-)
« Reply #12 on: July 29, 2014, 05:13:18 PM »
I thought about Monroe, but I already have an oro negro that covers a similar period.

For me, mango season is May to Sept, so anything outside of that range is bonus, but anything inside is hard to keep up with as the piles of mangoes build up. A good March / spring cado and a good Oct / fall avocado would be fantastic to fill out both sides of the oro negro.
If you have a Monroe with no nitrogen added can carry fruit to January, February.  Utuado will come in  October and November, before Monroe and Oro Negro. Catalina September-October. All good fruit.
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Re: Question for the FL Avocado Kings (ie, Carlos et al :-)
« Reply #13 on: July 29, 2014, 07:23:51 PM »
Thanks, Carlos. One question: where do I find a utuado for sale?

Yah, the plan is to sell fruit in the next 3 to 5 years. Between my lot and the one next door, we'll have around 80 trees in ground. Not enough to compete with the titans up in palm beach county or harry's fruit and spice park, but enough to keep the wifey busy selling fruits and the cookie monster's tummy full nearly year round with yummy fruits.
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Re: Question for the FL Avocado Kings (ie, Carlos et al :-)
« Reply #14 on: July 29, 2014, 08:23:02 PM »
Jeff I will take a trip down your way to buy some fruit once you get your other grove going !..
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Re: Question for the FL Avocado Kings (ie, Carlos et al :-)
« Reply #15 on: July 29, 2014, 08:46:49 PM »
Are there any Laurel Wilt resistant varieties?

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Re: Question for the FL Avocado Kings (ie, Carlos et al :-)
« Reply #16 on: July 29, 2014, 10:08:05 PM »
Are there any Laurel Wilt resistant varieties?

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So far it affects all races. USDA is conducting some experiments and some varieties are showing more resistance but the result are not completed. Bottom line: No easy fix.  Hoping that nature will take care of it like the white fly.
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Re: Question for the FL Avocado Kings (ie, Carlos et al :-)
« Reply #17 on: July 29, 2014, 11:33:15 PM »
Congrats on the lot next door, I like the plans that you have in mind for it.
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Re: Question for the FL Avocado Kings (ie, Carlos et al :-)
« Reply #18 on: July 30, 2014, 05:49:27 PM »
Jeff what size trees are you going to plant ? 3,7,15,25?

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Re: Question for the FL Avocado Kings (ie, Carlos et al :-)
« Reply #19 on: July 30, 2014, 09:44:19 PM »
Thanks, Guys.

I'm doing mostly 3's and 7's. There are a couple in 25 that I've been growing for a few years.
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Re: Question for the FL Avocado Kings (ie, Carlos et al :-)
« Reply #20 on: July 30, 2014, 09:48:05 PM »
Thanks, Guys.

I'm doing mostly 3's and 7's. There are a couple in 25 that I've been growing for a few years.

Are you willing to type out a list of what you plan on planting?

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Re: Question for the FL Avocado Kings (ie, Carlos et al :-)
« Reply #21 on: July 30, 2014, 11:51:42 PM »
Thanks, Guys.

I'm doing mostly 3's and 7's. There are a couple in 25 that I've been growing for a few years.

Are you willing to type out a list of what you plan on planting?

Let's see if Pina Colada makes the list.
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Re: Question for the FL Avocado Kings (ie, Carlos et al :-)
« Reply #22 on: July 31, 2014, 12:03:34 AM »
Thanks, Guys.

I'm doing mostly 3's and 7's. There are a couple in 25 that I've been growing for a few years.

Are you willing to type out a list of what you plan on planting?

Let's see if Pina Colada makes the list.

of course it will...I believe he told me he will be planting a one gallon that was grafted 18 days ago with a weak, rotting root ball but he said he expects to harcest about 200 lbs next year and 300 - 400 pounds by year two, all off of one single tree.
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Re: Question for the FL Avocado Kings (ie, Carlos et al :-)
« Reply #23 on: July 31, 2014, 05:36:34 AM »
Hey Rob Where can I get that 1 Gal Tree ;)....
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Re: Question for the FL Avocado Kings (ie, Carlos et al :-)
« Reply #24 on: July 31, 2014, 09:11:12 AM »
thanks for the morning laugh! ;D
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