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Tropical Fruit Discussion / broadleaf Papaya Update
« on: July 02, 2012, 03:17:47 AM »







For those who expressed interest in the true identity of the broadleafed papaya and the taste of the fruit,my enquiries have been anwered by the grower.Only one person in this country besides yours truely has them.The identity is Carica papaya 100%.The fruit are very sweet and orange fleshed in the style that locals would call a red.The growers claims they are one of the best of all to eat.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Flying saucers' landed, bring friends
« on: June 30, 2012, 08:42:27 PM »



It takes a few people to eat a flying saucer and they grow on a dwarf tree.They are usually bigger maher its mother and even giant mossman but are nearly seedless.This is a modest sized individual with extra seeds in the center I see.They are considered to have flavor as good as any of the 20 or so named local types.

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In 1988 through experience the minimum temps (in celcius sorry) that a variety of tropical fruits could tolerate were compiled through grower experience.Many of these temps have been lowered considerably by identifying particular cultivars that are more cold hardy.Amendments to the list below may include breadfruit 3c and durian 2c.They are conservative and here are the compiled observations:

TOLERABLE MINIMUM TEMPERATURES




COMMON NAME

CELCIUS

COMMON NAME

CELCIUS

 

Abiu

+1

Mamoncillo

-2



Acerola

+1

Mango

+1



Black Sapote

-1

Mangosteen

+3



Breadfruit

+8

Marang

+5



Casimiroa

-5

Miracle Fruit

+1



Charichuela

+1

Nutmeg

+1



Durian

+3

Pitaya

+1



Fiji Longan

+1

Pitomba

-2



Grumichama

-2

Pomelo

+3



Guava

-2

Rambai/Tampoi

+1



Inga

+1

Rambutan/Pulasan

+3



Jaboticaba

-3

Rio Grande Cherry

-6



Jakfruit/Chempedak

+1

Rollinia

+1



Jujube

-2

Rose Apple

+1



Langsat/Duku

+1

Santol

+1



Longan

-3

Sapodilla

-2



Lychee

-3

South American Sapote

+1



Madrono

+1

Spondias

+1



Malay Apple

+1

Star Apple

+1



Mamey Americana

+1

Uvilla

+1



Mamey Sapote

+1

Wampee

-4




--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




PALMS



Jelly

-5

Salak

+1

 


--------------------------------------------------------------------------------




NUTS



Galip/Pili

+1

Macadamia

-2



Okari

+1

 


With winter approaching, members may be interested in the minimum temperatures which their fruit trees will be able to withstand. This is, of course, provided their trees are vigorously healthy and the cold snaps do not last more than a few days.

Many growers are now fertilizing prior to winter to ensure their trees go into the cold weather in a nutritionally healthy state. This may result in some tender young leaves being damaged but overall, the tree suffers less.

This does not apply to trees such as lychee which require a dormant pre-winter period to ensure normal flowering towards the end of winter.
 
John Marshall


DATE: March 1988


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Excellence in mango fruit taste?
« on: June 29, 2012, 04:42:57 AM »
Over many decades various government agricultural facilities in Queensland have grown, assessed and distributed mango varieties for horticulture and commercial farms.Many hundreds of varieties of mangoes have been appraised and below is a list of such types at just one facility over a 17 year period:

Mango varieties: Akbar, Apple, Banana I, Batawi, Betti Amba, Beverly, Blue, Boribo, Brooks Late, Bullocks Heart, Carabao Harbon, Carabao Lamao, Carabao Los Banos, Carabao Mindanao, Carabao Super Manila, Coconut, Crimson Blush, Davis-Haden, Dot, Early Gold, Edward, Elephant Tusk, Fairchild, Fajri, Fascell, Florigon, Gail, Gary, Gedong, Golden Delight, Goldsworthy, Golek, Graham, Harumanis, Hatcher, Hingurakoka-Willard, Hong Sa, Hood, Indo-Chinese, Isis, Jacquelin, Jakarta, Jewel, Joe Welch, Julie, Kalapady, Keitt, Kent, Keow Savoey, Kopu Reva, Kuru, Laskarshikhan, Lippens, Maha 65, Malgoa Ramasamy, Manalagi, Mapulehu, Momi K, Nam Dok Mai, Nimrod, Ok Rong, Olour, Ono, Pairee, Pairi, Palmer, Parri, Pico, Pirie, Pope, Rapa, Rosa, Ruby, Rupee, Sabre, Santa Alexandrina, Sensation, Southern Blush, Spirit of '76, Springfels, Sufaida, Tommy Atkins, Tong Dum, Van Dyke, Vellai Colomban, Wally, Zardalu, Zillate.

Of all these mangoes and hundreds of others only 5 achieved a fruit flavor rating of excellent.These are,

valencia pride
florigon
kensington pride
kwan
nam dok mai
Admittedly a few of the best asian types like maha may have not been included in  appraisals and the methodology of flavor assessment by the government is not given so there are room for questions.Do people agree that these are some of the worlds best tasting mangoes? 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Very modest market day
« on: June 29, 2012, 02:34:01 AM »



There is too much fruit and veg. in the yard so it was a modest market day.Mushies,cocktail peppers (capsicums) and a few passionfruit are good enough.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / The lost varieties where are they now?
« on: June 28, 2012, 07:06:53 AM »
http://rfcarchives.org.au/Next/CaringForTrees/ImportedVarieties5-87.htm
These are fruit varieties that came through a local facilty for trial over a 17 year period.It is only a tiny fraction of what exists in the region but many of these good types are nowhere to be found now.The extraordinary Yook ho pow lychee turned up in someones yard and I heard that several of pulasans are on farms.I suspect many are not lost but are still around somewhere perhaps in backyards.

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Recipes / Range of tropical fruit recipes
« on: June 28, 2012, 04:50:58 AM »
http://rfcarchives.org.au/Next/Fruits/RecipeIndex.htm

Here are a large range of recipes for all sorts of tropical fruits.Follow the links for all sorts of info/

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Could that be a phytophthora canker?
« on: June 28, 2012, 02:17:18 AM »
I have spotted a suspicious canker on my shepard avo trunk that needs interventionist treatment.


Ok this will take a systemic and surface fungicide and steriprune.



Now to clean the wond and assess the damage.



It is only a longicorn wood borer so only needs borer removal,mancozeb spray and steriprune sealing.All is well now.





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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Thai white guava
« on: June 27, 2012, 06:56:47 PM »







Once having a range of guavas I have trimmed it down to the 5 best.My thai white is from a very productive strain fruiting several times a year.The large white fleshed fruit routinely way well over 2lbs in summer,have very few seeds and taste very similar to mexican cream.Seedless thais are not available in australia.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / shelter when planting out
« on: June 27, 2012, 02:07:31 AM »
The sun can be scorching for many plants when young and they need to be sheltered from the spring and summer heat and UV for their first season.Some like mangosteens nee at least 2 seasons of sheltering.The humidity can also be elevated in their enclosures.



The canistel has the top open after after a few months of hardening.



Russells sweet garcinia in its new enclosure .



Montong durian enjoying its new duck and goose proof shelter.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Preparing seeds for travel
« on: June 25, 2012, 08:22:29 PM »



I am a bit conerned about getting seeds ready for travel so they don't grow fungi and don't dry out.If I dip them in a mild fungicide solutionand keep them just a little moist with paper towels would this be a good idea? Is there prefered preparation methods for different seed types with drying and fungiide use? Cleaning seeds where flesh clings is also an area I have difficulty such as in the picture above.
Advice on removing flesh and the use of fungicide would be appreciated.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Friends going overseas
« on: June 25, 2012, 06:43:59 PM »



Have friends holidaying overseas? It is a good idea to have them send seeds home to you or bring them back in person.If you do the research and get a wishlist they may enjoy the thrill of the hunt and it gives a reason to go to local markets and hardware stores.I have done this quite a few times.A friend whizzed over to japan for a week and brought some vegie seeds back for me this morning.The 4 bayberry seeds are from an excellent type eaten only on Saturday but I may be too tropical for for them,I just don't know.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / A star is born
« on: June 24, 2012, 02:56:46 AM »







Carambolas are crazy productive trees and pump out the fruit like machines.My favorites for taste are B10,B17,fwang tung and giant siam.Many B10 and B17 fruit are more than stars and I bet they would be popular in Israel or New York for that matter.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Honeydew showdown
« on: June 23, 2012, 10:13:10 PM »
Pictures are the 2 honeydews that talk on the street suggests are the best.In spite of a passionfruit overload I put them to the test.




The winner is clear without a shadow of a doubt the yellow skinned white fleshed one is sweeter and has a more complex taste.It's external similarity to the' top shelf' mango melon also helps its appeal.The white skinned like it's green skinned comrade in the honeydew stakes is not a winner.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Flavicarpa vs edulis passionfruit
« on: June 23, 2012, 09:42:51 PM »
The most popular commercial Passiflora edulis edulis and red Passiflora edulis flavicarpa are in these pictures.They are available at just about every supermarket and corner store.Which tastes better? I tried a load of each and both are great and probably equal in taste.The only certainty is that neither come close to the best yellow flavicarpas.




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Tropical Fruit Discussion / A park revisited
« on: June 22, 2012, 11:33:41 PM »



Maprang mayon chid



Nutmeg



Kepel new foliage



A small fruit selection from the park.Unfortunately many young fruit are removed by city council to discourage urban foraging but only up to a point.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / A morning pluck
« on: June 22, 2012, 06:45:38 PM »



A quick whip around the garden reveals just a few odds and ends.The star fruit are B10 and siam giant.the citrus are tahitian,valencia,honey murcott,hickson,emperor.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Loquat,Passiflora edulis and S.jambos
« on: June 22, 2012, 02:12:48 AM »
While driving home from the outback I came over the atherton tableland and grabbed a couple of fruit.The P.edulis was the best tasting of several types I tried.The loquat tree in a park had great tasting fruit.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Papaya trees in the backyard.
« on: June 15, 2012, 07:20:47 PM »



















I often have to give papaya away as they are so productive.Once they get too tall I chop them off so they can multi-branch and be shorter but storm damage can do that for me.I really need to head a couple in the garden.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Abius
« on: June 15, 2012, 06:30:18 AM »



Abius are one of my favourite fruits and the trees are extremely productive.Seedlings fruit in about 3 years the tropics and a little longer in the subtropics.They are grown to about 28 latitude in australia but take a little longer to fruit near the limits of their tolerance.The named varieties are quite different in shape,colour,seed number and flavor.The one in the photo is the preferred farm variety in my area.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Another Friday at the Market
« on: June 15, 2012, 03:36:09 AM »











The star o this show is the Z4 abiu even though it copped a few 'dings'.The flesh is white and flavoursome and the 2 seeds can be seen in front of it.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Even more bad pictures of good trees.
« on: June 12, 2012, 03:42:51 AM »



Santols may be unsuitable for small yards.



I don't know this small tree fending off cardemom but it looks like a jaboticaba of some sort to me.



An unusual eugenia I believe planted near a group of eugenia species including giant acerolas.



Ambarella

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / More unusual fruit trees
« on: June 11, 2012, 08:29:10 AM »















Tentacled mystery tree,malay dwarf,mabolo and poshte.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Unidentified Fruits, what are they?
« on: June 11, 2012, 04:04:45 AM »
I picked some fruit up off the gound in a big park/orchard and the identities of some I am only guessing.


I believe there is pearl barley, randia formosa,bunchosia,maybe flacourtia inermis,old kepel,betel nut,mini kinda canistel (it tasted great) and then I get hazy and I don't know if they are correct.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / A stroll in the park with fruit trees
« on: June 11, 2012, 03:29:49 AM »
A drive past a park that is a few acres all the time and I remember seeing all the fruit trees many years ago.The trees are now giants the ID signs have gone and I can only tell maybe 50 of 120 species.There were lots of flowers and old fruit without seeds but it is a disneyland of free fruit I will be frollicking in regulaly from now.The brazilian eugenias and garcinias had me baffled and my head is still spinning at this wasted resource.I'll try to get identifications from experiences foum members but here a just a couple of the 100's of trees.My fishing 'bucket volunteer' pal is in some for size reference.

120ft santol


Spanish lime



star apple



jaboticaba


kepel

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