MIni Yard Update (OK, maybe not so mini anymore)........1/19/2013 & 1/26/2013

[Jsvand5]

Hope the maprang holds for you. When mine held fruit about 6 or so fruit set and then they slowly thinned themselves down to one. Your tree looks like it is putting on some nice sice. Both of mine got badly damaged by the freeze before I got my GH up. Both will survive but there definitely won't be any fruit for me this season.

[natsgarden123]

Harry, what mango varieties would you say for sure, are the most trouble free, regular bearers, that you have ?

If you are asking about the champion producers year in and year out at my house, without regard to eating experience, I would include the following:

Tommy Atkins, Florigon, Pickering, Nam Doc Mai See Tong (Sia Tong), Brahm KaI Mea (Meu), Rataul, Dian Guaw (something that I have that is probably mis-named but has not been further identified), and Keow Savoy.  That would be my top of the top tier.  Angie is a possible addition to this club.  Just below these would be the next group that are very productive and relatively carefree.  They would include:

Beverly, Carrie, Chou Anon (consistant, just not everbearing as advertised at my house), Glenn, Duncan, Maha Chanok, Golden Nugget,  Extrema, Graham, Irwin, Philippine, Southern Blush, Kent, Jean Ellen, Tebow (Young), Parvin, Palmer, Cogshall, Po Pyo Kalay, Tong Dam,  Van Dyke, Vallanato, Valencia Pride, Neelam, Nam Doc Mai, Hatcher, Thai Everbearing, and Keitt.

I think that covers it....as best as I can remember, anyway.

Baileys Marvel ? 

I'm beyond jealous of your gorgeous collection.

Is your Tommy Atkins blooming well this year?  The huge tree by my office has bloomed very well, at least for the last 5 years. And it has produced a ton of fruit. This year there are only some sporadic blooms way up top.

[Cookie Monster]

Where does okrung fit in there? I remember you saying it was a strong producer at your pad.

[HMHausman]

Baileys Marvel ? 

Great mango, but finicky...at my house anyway.  Good bloomer, but poor fruit setter here out west in the east everglades.

[HMHausman]

Is your Tommy Atkins blooming well this year?  The huge tree by my office has bloomed very well, at least for the last 5 years. And it has produced a ton of fruit. This year there are only some sporadic blooms way up top.

I only have a small token Tommy Atkins....just for the sake of completeness of collection.  However, my neighbors have 7 of them.  The trees have a bloomed, but somewhat sporadically.  But from what I can see, there will still be good fruit set.

[HMHausman]

Where does okrung fit in there? I remember you saying it was a strong producer at your pad.

Oops....Okrung is a candidate for elite status as well.  I have always had good crops except for last year. There was a crop, but it was not heavy as it usually is.  This year it will return to heavy production. It is a carefree producer and one of my favorite mangoes to dehydrate.

[HMHausman]

Hi Harry, Any chance you can arrange this list according to your taste preference? 

No, no chance at all.  First, because my preference would differ from year to year and from fruit to fruit.  Second, my preferences might not be yours or anyone else's.  I bought the mango trees I bought because someone, whom I thought was of sufficient knowledge and experience, thought that the fruit was of excellent eating quality. You should try them to rate them for yourself.  You have an  invitation to stop by during mango season to do taste testing.

[jc]

Damn! 

And I'm guessing that "someone" was you...

Fair enough, I guess I'll just have to wait until a tasting season...

Many thanks Counselor.

Hi Harry, Any chance you can arrange this list according to your taste preference? 

No, no chance at all.  First, because my preference would differ from year to year and from fruit to fruit.  Second, my preferences might not be yours or anyone else's.  I bought the mango trees I bought because someone, whom I thought was of sufficient knowledge and experience, thought that the fruit was of excellent eating quality. You should try them to rate them for yourself.  You have an  invitation to stop by during mango season to do taste testing.

[Jackfruitwhisperer69]

Hi Harry,
Always great to see your slice of paradise...Looks like it's going to be a prosperous mango and lychee year for you

Thanks for sharing

[Future]

Harry's space is simply amazing.  A standard bearer of excellence.  Thanks for sharing man.

[happyisland]

No posts on this forum are more inspirational/jealousy-inducing than yours, Harry! I can't wait to see all the fruit pics in a few months. [drools]

[Cookie Monster]

Harry (and the others who've tried the angie), what is the level of acidity in the angie? Is it more of a 'sweet' mango or a sweet and tart mango?

[bsbullie]

Harry (and the others who've tried the angie), what is the level of acidity in the angie? Is it more of a 'sweet' mango or a sweet and tart mango?

Sorry Cookie Man, its sweet.

[cbss_daviefl]

Jeff,

I have only tasted Angie once at Harry’s.  I believe Clint brought them.  I am not sure how helpful this will be to you but I remember it being very good.  I do not remember thinking it had any zing.  As a rule, I do not like things that are solely sweet.  I like a blend of sweet and tart and both in moderation, enjoying higher levels of tart than sweet.   That being said and looking back through the fog of seven months, I would say it was medium-low on the tart scale.  Of all the mango varieties I tasted, it was the one tree I bought when I still lived at my other house with no space for another tree for that property, planning to wedge it in somewhere.  Luckly, I did not put it in the ground and I have planted it in a spot of honor at my new house.

[SWRancher]

Harry (and the others who've tried the angie), what is the level of acidity in the angie? Is it more of a 'sweet' mango or a sweet and tart mango?

Angie is very sweet but also has a little "Indian mango" flavor to it.

[Cookie Monster]

HAHAHAHA that probably puts it into wife's realm of like. Is it creamy? or completely fiberless?

Harry (and the others who've tried the angie), what is the level of acidity in the angie? Is it more of a 'sweet' mango or a sweet and tart mango?

Sorry Cookie Man, its sweet.

[bsbullie]

HAHAHAHA that probably puts it into wife's realm of like. Is it creamy? or completely fiberless?

Harry (and the others who've tried the angie), what is the level of acidity in the angie? Is it more of a 'sweet' mango or a sweet and tart mango?

Sorry Cookie Man, its sweet.

Yes, its fiber free and creamy.  Now that Tony mentions it, I mivht agree that it has some characteristics of an Indian mango (I am not comparing it to say mallika although that wouldn't be a bad thing) which maybe that is a factor why I feel it will or at should wind up on the top of many taste tests.

[phantomcrab]

You have an  invitation to stop by during mango season to do taste testing.

Harry-
Do you think the mango season will be earlier than usual this year?

[Mike T]

Harry you haved a big yard.I thought I had the origin of the Kai sorted out but I'm not so sure because it is not used in thailand like wan or mayon chid.It could be a corruption of the word for chicken but that doesn't make sense.It probably is a variety in the wan group as they have a trinomial naming system.
The red on the fruit won't last long.I have seen mayom chids here the same size with so many fruit the branches are busting.Okrung is a classic mango and one of my favorites by the way.

[HMHausman]

I took a bunch of pictures today.  I'm going to post them here, but I am running our of steam for the night......so to be continued tomorrow.  In the meantime: 


A few young Graham mangoes in juvenile stage against the back drop of a gorgeous blue Florida sky.  Good night.

[murahilin]

Harry you haved a big yard.I thought I had the origin of the Kai sorted out but I'm not so sure because it is not used in thailand like wan or mayon chid.It could be a corruption of the word for chicken but that doesn't make sense.It probably is a variety in the wan group as they have a trinomial naming system.
The red on the fruit won't last long.I have seen mayom chids here the same size with so many fruit the branches are busting.Okrung is a classic mango and one of my favorites by the way.

Mike, I think Kai means "sea" in Hawaiian (It's my nephew's name as well, that's why I was initially interested in getting the Kai maprang). I think it may just be a Hawaiian name that they picked that doesn't have a Thai connection?

[Mike T]

Sheehan it is all coming back to me now and you said all that before.It makes sense all right.

[murahilin]

Sheehan it is all coming back to me now and you said all that before.It makes sense all right.

Hopefully that fruit makes it to maturity and then Harry will be able to have a tasting and 10 of us will split the egg sized fruit and will be of no help in determining its pedigree because it is unlikely that any of us will have any sort of maprang cultivar experience to refer to. I will make sure Harry documents this event well for the forum. I may even whip out my handy refractometer.

[Ethan]

Classic Movie Line #34

[HMHausman]

Pickering.......blooming reliably, setting fruit reliably and keeping small in  growth habit



Hak Ip Lychee.....actually one of three I have planted out.  It was the last planted out, however, since my original planting was knocked over by Hurricane Wilma, it is now probably my largest Hak Ip.




First noticed fruit set in November, Caimitos are sizing up.....but painfully slowly.




Brewster Lychee.  Three foot something maprang in the forefront (for scale).  Malay Apple to the right. Jakfruit to the left.




Seedling jakfruit fruit set.  Not much else going on on the jakfruit front....only an occasional fruit here and there. 




Malay Apple.  The tree has bloomed for the first time this past year. However, the bloom has always been light and sporadic with a fruit cluster here and there but no wholesale bloom with the ground covered in magenta flower parts...as I have seen elsewhere.





Mammee apple slowly but surely gaining size.  Should be about softball size when mature......sometime early summer.



More coming.