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Kiwi's
« on: December 23, 2014, 01:12:27 PM »
Hey I'm new!
I just wanted to ask anyone if they knew the best temperature in which I should grow kiwi's.
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« Reply #1 on: December 23, 2014, 01:15:15 PM »
Kiwifruit can be propagated from cuttings or seeds. Take hardwood cuttings anytime after the plant has received 500 hours of chilling, or make softwood cuttings in July. Kiwifruits can also be propagated by layering. To grow plants from seed, remove the seeds from a mature fruit and let them dry for two days. Refrigerate them in moist perlite at 40° F for four months. Then plant the seeds no deeper than 1/8 inch in a sterile potting mix and cover the container to keep the humidity high.

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Re: Kiwi's
« Reply #2 on: December 23, 2014, 06:17:35 PM »
Do commercial kiwi cultivars actually produce viable seed? I mean, could one just go down to the store, pick up some kiwifruit  and follow that process? (if they need four months of stratification then surely they can take refrigeration during shipping...)  I had just assumed that, like commercial bananas, they'd been bred to the point of infertility.

If it were possible, even if ones odds of getting a good plant were low, it could still be a way to get a male for pollination since kiwi is monoecious.
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« Reply #3 on: December 24, 2014, 02:45:45 PM »
Do commercial kiwi cultivars actually produce viable seed? I mean, could one just go down to the store, pick up some kiwifruit  and follow that process? (if they need four months of stratification then surely they can take refrigeration during shipping...)  I had just assumed that, like commercial bananas, they'd been bred to the point of infertility.

If it were possible, even if ones odds of getting a good plant were low, it could still be a way to get a male for pollination since kiwi is monoecious.

i was going to ask this myself.
Kiwi does have seeds
banana from the store do not - im pretty sure.
i dont know if that seed is viable or not?
also, the variety i think is the "Hayward "

 Hayward, does best with a winter rest of 800 hours of chilling (defined as total hours between 32° and 45° F.)

(such as southern California, southern Texas, and Florida), cultivars such as Elmwood, Dexter, Abbott, or Vincent would be more suitable. In very mild winter areas the vines may retain their leaves and fail to flower the following season. Kiwi vines can be successfully grown in large containers.
Seeds from store bought fruit may be planted in the spring
http://www.crfg.org/pubs/ff/kiwifruit.html

They do need a winter chill in order to produce fruit, so you can’t grow kiwi anywhere warmer than zone 8.
 Different varieties have different temperature requirements, so you should try to buy plants that suit your climate.
http://www.gardeningblog.net/how-to-grow/kiwi/

Fuzzy Female varieties need Fuzzy Males to set fruit
Fuzzy Varieties (Actinidia deliciosa)
http://www.justfruitsandexotics.com/JFE/product-category/berry-plants/kiwi/

Vincent Female Kiwi – Low Chill Kiwi!
Even though she’s named Vincent, this is the female fuzzy kiwi looking for Tomuri. She’s a tasty egg-sized fruit, similar to what you are accustomed to buying in the grocery store. Bred for warmer climates, she requires only 100 chill units, and a growing season of 240 frost-free days to sweeten the fruit. Fruit set is most successful when the winter temperature drops below 32, and Vincent is hardy to 10-15 degrees when mature. Can be grown successfully in a large pot if trellised adequately. Harvest in October. Zones 8-9.
http://www.justfruitsandexotics.com/JFE/product/vincent-kiwi/


How to Grow Kiwi From Store Bought Kiwi Fruit!
http://foodiegardener.com/how-to-grow-kiwi-from-store-bought-kiwi-fruit/



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Re: Kiwi's
« Reply #4 on: December 25, 2014, 12:08:48 PM »
Hey I'm new! ...

Welcome fruitninja

Do commercial kiwi cultivars actually produce viable seed?

Yes, they do. I'd search for Golden Kiwi as they are way better than the green ones. Even better but maybe more tricky to find are "hardy kiwis" (Actinidia arguta).

If it were possible, even if ones odds of getting a good plant were low, it could still be a way to get a male for pollination since kiwi is dioecious


Your seedlings will develop at very different rates, as male kiwi plants grow much faster than females. So the pretty plants are likely to be males -> Make shure to keep some of the slower growing females.
« Last Edit: December 25, 2014, 12:21:04 PM by Nispero »

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Re: Kiwi's
« Reply #5 on: December 25, 2014, 03:14:46 PM »
Interesting. Think I'll be picking up some kiwifruit at the grocery store when they reopen   ;)  (it's hard to get live plants / cuttings here)
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« Reply #6 on: December 26, 2014, 12:02:45 AM »
I had a success with sprouting kiwi seeds from store. Now I have 4 nice plants growing but I don't know will they fruit in my area or not. All of them are Gold kiwi seedlings. They take a long time to sprout and the soil needs to be warm. Summertime is the best time to try.

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« Reply #7 on: December 26, 2014, 01:16:56 PM »
I had a success with sprouting kiwi seeds from store. Now I have 4 nice plants growing but I don't know will they fruit in my area or not. All of them are Gold kiwi seedlings. They take a long time to sprout and the soil needs to be warm. Summertime is the best time to try.

Galka, in Ocala you should definitely be able to grow some type of kiwi (even if just the hardy kiwi, which I have found to taste pretty good, and easier to eat skin and all like a grape).  I have no first-hand experience, but each time I asked, I was told they need to be north of Lake Okeechobee, i assume due to chill hour requirements.
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Re: Kiwi's
« Reply #8 on: December 26, 2014, 01:20:25 PM »
http://www.justfruitsandexotics.com/JFE/product-category/berry-plants/kiwi/

Seems like JF&E will know a good amount about what does well in your part of the state.  Not so helpful for us down here in zone 10.
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Re: Kiwi's
« Reply #9 on: December 26, 2014, 03:05:49 PM »
I had a success with sprouting kiwi seeds from store. Now I have 4 nice plants growing but I don't know will they fruit in my area or not. All of them are Gold kiwi seedlings. They take a long time to sprout and the soil needs to be warm. Summertime is the best time to try.

Galka, in Ocala you should definitely be able to grow some type of kiwi (even if just the hardy kiwi, which I have found to taste pretty good, and easier to eat skin and all like a grape).  I have no first-hand experience, but each time I asked, I was told they need to be north of Lake Okeechobee, i assume due to chill hour requirements.
I hope so because I have them growing...hardy and fuzzy green and gold. They are not mature yet and I am not sure which one is male or female. Maybe this spring I will get some flowering.  ::)

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Re: Kiwi's
« Reply #10 on: February 22, 2016, 03:52:28 AM »
Old thread but most relevant I could find using the search.

Im getting a male and female of the large fuzzy (deliciousa) and Im wondering the best way to grow them?

My options are horizontally against a wall or vertically about six feet up sop that fruit would hang overhead. Anyone know how much space and what methods would be best? Im hoping I can grow the male to the side of the female just on a small pice of fence and keep it nicely pruned so it doesnt take up much space but is near to the female.

The place is behind my house between two walls it gets full sun but only early morning really so it shouldnt be too hot right?

any advice appreciated :)


Iv also heard of growing it like dragon fruit in a make shift weeping tree shape but im assuming that would be far less productive?
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Re: Kiwi's
« Reply #11 on: February 22, 2016, 04:53:23 AM »
Those New Zealanders take credit for everything. They rebadge the chinese gooseberry as their own.They are famous for being the second country to discover Pavlova and chinese gooseberry goes great on those along with passionfruit of course.

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« Reply #12 on: February 23, 2016, 12:12:19 AM »
Mike is this just an anti NZ All Blacks thing?  :D 
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Hardy kiwis the same kiwis sold as "mini kiwis" in the market?
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« Reply #13 on: February 23, 2016, 08:03:51 AM »
They do need a winter chill in order to produce fruit, so you can’t grow kiwi anywhere warmer than zone 8.
 Different varieties have different temperature requirements, so you should try to buy plants that suit your climate.
http://www.gardeningblog.net/how-to-grow/kiwi/

Don't believe this is absolutely true, as here we have a quite warm climate, and there is many people, producing kiwis sucessfully!

For those asking by store bought fruit, viability of seeds; most of them are viable, and if you remove seeds, clean them very well, and sow right away, they don't need stratification; only if they're allowed to dry, they will need cold stratification.

Hardy kiwis the same kiwis sold as "mini kiwis" in the market?

Yes! They are commercialised as Hardy kiwi, Mini kiwi, Cocktail kiwi, Bayern kiwi (in germany), and a few other names.
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« Reply #14 on: February 23, 2016, 08:53:58 AM »
Kiwi are not tropical plants....they survive 0° F ore less....they want water during summer and need several chilling hours during winter. USDA 8-9 zones are perfect....

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« Reply #15 on: February 23, 2016, 11:11:40 AM »
Really? I had heard they wouldn't fruit this far south 9b and GA was pretty much the southern limit. I would love to have some Kiwis.

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« Reply #16 on: February 23, 2016, 05:52:48 PM »
Kiwi are not tropical plants....they survive 0° F ore less....they want water during summer and need several chilling hours during winter. USDA 8-9 zones are perfect....

I don't said they are tropical plants! Just said, that there are people producing them successfully in my Island (and we are far from being in a tropical climate)! Maybe there are selected cultivars, that are more adapted to warmer zones, or maybe they don't need that much cold to stimulate flower production...

Next time I pass by one of those spots were they are growing just fine, I will take some pics to share here.
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« Reply #17 on: February 23, 2016, 10:38:51 PM »
Old thread but most relevant I could find using the search.

Im getting a male and female of the large fuzzy (deliciousa) and Im wondering the best way to grow them?

My options are horizontally against a wall or vertically about six feet up sop that fruit would hang overhead. Anyone know how much space and what methods would be best? Im hoping I can grow the male to the side of the female just on a small pice of fence and keep it nicely pruned so it doesnt take up much space but is near to the female.

The place is behind my house between two walls it gets full sun but only early morning really so it shouldnt be too hot right?

any advice appreciated :)


Iv also heard of growing it like dragon fruit in a make shift weeping tree shape but im assuming that would be far less productive?

If only there was someone around who could answer...

I've only seen one in san diego and it was trellised.
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« Reply #18 on: February 24, 2016, 06:18:38 AM »
Old thread but most relevant I could find using the search.

Im getting a male and female of the large fuzzy (deliciousa) and Im wondering the best way to grow them?

My options are horizontally against a wall or vertically about six feet up sop that fruit would hang overhead. Anyone know how much space and what methods would be best? Im hoping I can grow the male to the side of the female just on a small pice of fence and keep it nicely pruned so it doesnt take up much space but is near to the female.

The place is behind my house between two walls it gets full sun but only early morning really so it shouldnt be too hot right?

any advice appreciated :)


Iv also heard of growing it like dragon fruit in a make shift weeping tree shape but im assuming that would be far less productive?

If only there was someone around who could answer...

I've only seen one in san diego and it was trellised.

There are many ways of cultivating it! The most common is is "T" shape trellis, meaning you have a normal vertical trellis, and in the upper part an horizontal section, for it to spread better; a simple vertical trellis is also used, and arround here most people cultivate it in pergola like structure, as they also do for grapevines, for a simple reason; the terrain is somehow scant, and for rentabilizing it the most, they do inter crop. When the vines have no leaves and allow the light to pass, they plant some vegetable crop underneath it, like lettuce, cabage, onion, or even potatoes, and this way they can use it twice.
Another way I've seen arround here, is to make them climb over a big tree, but for this, it's better only allow them to climb a tree, one don't cares to much, as they are very vigorous, and can dammage the tree.

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« Reply #19 on: February 24, 2016, 06:35:37 AM »
Old thread but most relevant I could find using the search.

Im getting a male and female of the large fuzzy (deliciousa) and Im wondering the best way to grow them?

My options are horizontally against a wall or vertically about six feet up sop that fruit would hang overhead. Anyone know how much space and what methods would be best? Im hoping I can grow the male to the side of the female just on a small pice of fence and keep it nicely pruned so it doesnt take up much space but is near to the female.

The place is behind my house between two walls it gets full sun but only early morning really so it shouldnt be too hot right?

any advice appreciated :)


Iv also heard of growing it like dragon fruit in a make shift weeping tree shape but im assuming that would be far less productive?

If only there was someone around who could answer...

I've only seen one in san diego and it was trellised.
Suppose there is one way to find out ha ha

Im going to string up wires overhead(I like the idea of tasty fruit hanging near head level!)
About 3m long and 1.5m wide with the wires +-25cm apart going length wise. Will try grow the female stright in the centre using twine to guide it up.

Male I will have about 1m away growing against a wall W1m X H 2m :)

cant wait to start!
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« Reply #20 on: February 24, 2016, 10:21:16 AM »
Correct me if I'm wrong....
Mine seem to burn pretty easy, haven't had a crop off them yet, a little young.   I'd suggest keeping them out of direct light, at least in southern climes.

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« Reply #21 on: February 24, 2016, 05:38:17 PM »
Suppose there is one way to find out ha ha

Im going to string up wires overhead(I like the idea of tasty fruit hanging near head level!)
About 3m long and 1.5m wide with the wires +-25cm apart going length wise. Will try grow the female stright in the centre using twine to guide it up.

Male I will have about 1m away growing against a wall W1m X H 2m :)

cant wait to start!

You don't need to let the wires so close! 50cm is more than enough!
By your description, I supose you're going to build, the "T" shape trellis; right? If yes, and with 3m long, you can plant the female on one end, and the male in the other end, and then guide them in each others direction, and this way you ensure a better polination.

Correct me if I'm wrong....
Mine seem to burn pretty easy, haven't had a crop off them yet, a little young.   I'd suggest keeping them out of direct light, at least in southern climes.

If you have too high temperatures, with very low air humidity, and especialy if the plants, are not very well hydrated, yes, they can burn it's leaves very easily.
So if the temperatures are going very high, keep them well watered.
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« Reply #22 on: February 25, 2016, 12:29:18 AM »
Suppose there is one way to find out ha ha

Im going to string up wires overhead(I like the idea of tasty fruit hanging near head level!)
About 3m long and 1.5m wide with the wires +-25cm apart going length wise. Will try grow the female stright in the centre using twine to guide it up.

Male I will have about 1m away growing against a wall W1m X H 2m :)

cant wait to start!

You don't need to let the wires so close! 50cm is more than enough!
By your description, I supose you're going to build, the "T" shape trellis; right? If yes, and with 3m long, you can plant the female on one end, and the male in the other end, and then guide them in each others direction, and this way you ensure a better polination.

Correct me if I'm wrong....
Mine seem to burn pretty easy, haven't had a crop off them yet, a little young.   I'd suggest keeping them out of direct light, at least in southern climes.

If you have too high temperatures, with very low air humidity, and especialy if the plants, are not very well hydrated, yes, they can burn it's leaves very easily.
So if the temperatures are going very high, keep them well watered.
Thanks for the tips!
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« Reply #23 on: March 03, 2016, 07:59:20 PM »
As promised the other day, I'm comming back with some images of kiwis doing just nice, here in my Island. Today I passed by a place where they have kiwis growing on a pergola like structure, as I had also mentioned before.
In these images you can see, the type of structure, how vigorous they are (look at the tickness of old stems), some fruit still hanging (even if it's the very end of season, and the vines are already trying to put new growth, as you can also see), and the lenght people prune them arround here...














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« Reply #24 on: March 03, 2016, 08:56:47 PM »
Wow, impressive. Do you know what variety those are that they have fruit in zone 11?

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« Reply #25 on: March 04, 2016, 07:52:07 AM »
Wow, impressive. Do you know what variety those are that they have fruit in zone 11?

I'm not completely sure, but in this case, by the shape and the size they get at the peak of season, I think it migth be some improved  form of Hayward.
This type is common, but there are many others I've seen fruiting arround. I think the most common, is Bruno (because most fruit I've seen arround, have very enlongated shape), but a few varieties, of small roundish fruit, and very prolific are also common, one of them must be Solo, and, in higher zones I've also seen what I think to be Jenny.
As I cross other places were there might be something left hanging on the vines I will take some other photos, to show the diversity of fruit shapes and sizes we have. It's getting to late in the season, but I think, that there should be some more in other places yet.
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« Reply #26 on: March 26, 2016, 11:09:54 AM »
Two days ago I crossed 2 other productive plants, that were still holding some fruits.
The first one is of roundish small fruit type; and the other 3 images are of a bigger fruit variety, wich have kind of double fruit type, as you can see in the last image.









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« Reply #27 on: March 26, 2016, 01:18:04 PM »
Do they lose their leaves in Madeira? In Italy the frost kills the leaves, but where it does not freeze, you can find Kiwi with leaves also in January...

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« Reply #28 on: March 26, 2016, 06:59:43 PM »
Do they lose their leaves in Madeira? In Italy the frost kills the leaves, but where it does not freeze, you can find Kiwi with leaves also in January...

Hi Delvi83.
Yes they lose most of their leaves trough the winter months, even if there's some fruit still in the vines. In wind sheltered places and if in some kind of shadow, it can hold many leaves until the new growt starts flushing, when all of the old leaves drop, to give place to the new ones.

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« Reply #29 on: March 27, 2016, 04:07:22 PM »
CFRG has some info on them. especially on variety and chill hours
http://crfgsandiego.org/Documents/LOW%20CHILL%20KIWI%20FRUIT.pdf


A. arguta is supposedly the "cold hardy" kiwi that is smaller and not fuzzy.

 Actinidia chinensis is the "normal" fuzzy kiwi you see in stores. normally "Hayward" variety i think.


Actinidia kolomikta
 is the hardiest species in the genus Actinidia, at least down to about −40 °C (−40 °F)
The plant is attractive to cats, which find it more attractive than catnip or valerian and can severely damage the vine.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Actinidia_kolomikta

i did some reading on this a while back
i cant find the links now
but, you would think that because A. Chinesis is not as cold hardy,
it would do better in warm, or "hot" environments
i had read something that said this wasnt true, and some species had a more narrow temp range
and some had a wider range.
- "Chinensis"   was more in the narrow, and "kolomikta" was wider i think.


GRIN list
https://npgsweb.ars-grin.gov/gringlobal/taxon/taxonomysimple.aspx?Actinidia


more here...
https://hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/proceedings1999/v4-342.html
http://sfp.ucdavis.edu/pubs/brochures/Kiwi/



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« Reply #30 on: March 27, 2016, 11:47:18 PM »
Greenman, good information thanks.
Didn't see the Ken's Red on the list though, curious how it ranks.

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« Reply #31 on: March 28, 2016, 08:50:39 PM »
CFRG has some info on them. especially on variety and chill hours
http://crfgsandiego.org/Documents/LOW%20CHILL%20KIWI%20FRUIT.pdf


A. arguta is supposedly the "cold hardy" kiwi that is smaller and not fuzzy.

 Actinidia chinensis is the "normal" fuzzy kiwi you see in stores. normally "Hayward" variety i think.


Actinidia kolomikta
 is the hardiest species in the genus Actinidia, at least down to about −40 °C (−40 °F)
The plant is attractive to cats, which find it more attractive than catnip or valerian and can severely damage the vine.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Actinidia_kolomikta

i did some reading on this a while back
i cant find the links now
but, you would think that because A. Chinesis is not as cold hardy,
it would do better in warm, or "hot" environments
i had read something that said this wasnt true, and some species had a more narrow temp range
and some had a wider range.
- "Chinensis"   was more in the narrow, and "kolomikta" was wider i think.


GRIN list
https://npgsweb.ars-grin.gov/gringlobal/taxon/taxonomysimple.aspx?Actinidia


more here...
https://hort.purdue.edu/newcrop/proceedings1999/v4-342.html
http://sfp.ucdavis.edu/pubs/brochures/Kiwi/

The ones I've seen fruiting nicely here, are all A. chinensis cultivars. However I've seen at least 4 different, sizes and shapes, of fruit, wich means at least 4 cultivars do ok here. I'm not sure if they really need chilling hours or not; however I can say, here they don't get those chilling hours, as in allmost all the places I've seen them growing, they are at less than 700m from sea level, and it never gets colder than 10C (50F), and if it happens it never lasts more than a few hours; and as I said before, they fruit nicely.
The only option, is the temperature feeling! As 10C with 80% humidity, and 30Kmh wind, feels much colder than it actualy is; but it usualy is true for humans, not sure if works the same way with plants...

I've tried with other species, but until now, had no good results...
I'm growing, A. chinensis (2 cultivars), A. arguta (4 cultivars), A. kolomikta, and A. polygama, that is yet more atractive to cats, than A. kolomikta. Only the A. chinensis, and A. arguta Dr. Szymanowski, had flower for me, but the A. arguta never set fruit by absence of polinator, at the time, and I ended up loosing that plant.

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Re: Kiwi's
« Reply #32 on: April 14, 2016, 08:07:25 PM »
Today I've visited my parents, and took a moment to look at the plants I'm growing at their place, and to my surprise and completely against all odds, I noticed one of my Actinidia arguta seedlings is blooming!
Absolutely no chance of getting a fruit from it, because I didn't notice any other plant blooming, and as it is a seedling, it most likely to be a male, but a least I can say I was able to get one A. arguta to flower in a zone 11 climate! Maybe I was just lucky, or maybe, all those chilling hours people say they need to bloom, are not that real...
Anyway, here are some pics I took with my phone of the flowers forming:







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Re: Kiwi's
« Reply #33 on: April 15, 2016, 11:31:19 AM »
Boa amigo! Congratulations!  ;D

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« Reply #34 on: April 15, 2016, 07:20:56 PM »
Boa amigo! Congratulations!  ;D

Thank you Luís!

How are the ones I sent to you, doing so far?
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« Reply #35 on: April 16, 2016, 10:39:14 AM »
Boa amigo! Congratulations!  ;D

Thank you Luís!

How are the ones I sent to you, doing so far?
They are great! Sprouting very well. No flowre buds yet.  ;)

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Re: Kiwi's
« Reply #36 on: April 17, 2016, 03:32:30 PM »
Boa amigo! Congratulations!  ;D

Thank you Luís!

How are the ones I sent to you, doing so far?
They are great! Sprouting very well. No flowre buds yet.  ;)

If they're doing nice, you might get some flowers next year, at least in the Jumbo one, wich was the more developed.
Good luck on them.
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« Reply #37 on: April 17, 2016, 04:10:45 PM »
Thank's!  ;D

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Re: Kiwi's
« Reply #38 on: June 06, 2016, 10:32:04 PM »
Here's an update on my flowering A. arguta.
My 2 first blooms were destroyed by strong winds we're experiencing for the last 5/6 months, but luckily, there were a third bloom, and the flowers from that one get opened last saturday, so i had the oportunity, to confirm my guess, that this was as male plant.
I notice, that some of my plants, had a darker stem colour, and others had a much clearer stem colour, and I have a crazy theory that the darker ones should be male, and the other ones female, now I need to get the other ones to flower (maybe next year) to comfirm this.
Here are some images of my flowers:







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Re: Kiwi's
« Reply #39 on: June 07, 2016, 01:36:26 PM »
They are very beautiful! Congrtulations!  ;D

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Re: Kiwi's
« Reply #40 on: June 08, 2016, 10:38:42 AM »
May be I understood wrong......third flush of flower in this year? Or third in 3 years?
Anyway now they are in flower...and we are in June, the same period of flowering of North Italy....and North Italy a Madeira have very different climate...

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« Reply #41 on: June 09, 2016, 02:26:17 PM »
May be I understood wrong......third flush of flower in this year? Or third in 3 years?
Anyway now they are in flower...and we are in June, the same period of flowering of North Italy....and North Italy a Madeira have very different climate...

Hi Delvi,

It was the third flowering for this year, however, the plant didn't flowered three times, what happened, was that due to crazy weater this year arround here, with a winter and Spring, colder than usual, the new growth, didn't came uniformly, that means that I had a first flush, in early April, and with that, the first flowers, then a second flush in late April, and some more flowers, and finally another one in late May, that has bring the flowers I posted here! The flowers from the previous flowerings were all destroyed by the wind.
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Re: Kiwi's
« Reply #42 on: June 09, 2016, 02:36:15 PM »
So if winds destroys the flowers the plant flower again?? Very uncommon.....i thought Kiwi Arguta had just one flowering flush/year...and they needed several chilling hours..

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Re: Kiwi's
« Reply #43 on: June 09, 2016, 03:35:03 PM »
So if winds destroys the flowers the plant flower again?? Very uncommon.....i thought Kiwi Arguta had just one flowering flush/year...and they needed several chilling hours..

As I explained before, it didn't flowered more than once (at least, not in the same twigs)! What happened, as I explained, was that the new growt, didn't flushed all at same time, some buds, only flushed more than 1 and a half month after the first ones. This is why the flowers didn't came all at the same time... The confuson, was caused because I didn't express right! I should had write that some flowers came late, instead of mentioning, three flowerings.

If you look for the earlier answers to this topic, you will see that the first time that I posted about flower buds, were in the beggining of April, but I only get some open, last Saturday.
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Re: Kiwi's
« Reply #45 on: July 28, 2016, 03:50:14 PM »
Actinidia chinensis plants are starting to flower/fruit around here. The other day while working I crossed 2 plants at 2 different places, one was flowering and the other one already had a lot of tiny fruits, as you can see in the images.






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Re: Kiwi's
« Reply #46 on: November 24, 2017, 06:54:23 PM »
Back to Actinidia arguta in a not really cold climate; here you have some A. arguta Cv Issai fruits in Madeira Island.
These are not mine, but from a friend that owns a local nursery! This are young plants for sale, still in pots, with about 2 years.



So I keep saying they don't need that much cold, most people say they need, to fruit...
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