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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Super Jabo Rootstock
« on: February 08, 2024, 02:22:36 PM »
Thanks for the info, that's encouraging. If they sprouted at the same time and had their own roots probably came from the same seed but are different plants, like in polyembryonic mangoes. If that's the case, then makes sense to graft them together to get a super rootstock. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Super Jabo Rootstock
« on: February 07, 2024, 03:14:55 PM »
I have some Sabará jaboticaba seeds germinating and several are growing 2 or 3 stems at a time. My question is if each of them has its own root system or they all come from the same one. If they are independent plants, as I intend to use several Sabará as rootstocks, I was thinking of applying Simon's technique CSMR to these jabo seeds with multiple sprouts. If someone can clarify my doubts, I will try to put Simon's idea into practice. And if anyone has tried it already, their experience would be of great interest.

A couple of photos of the seeds with multiple sprouts:









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Does any other variety get that late in SoCal? Impressive  :o

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Anyway, cherimoya is one of the easiest fruits to eat without peeling it.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Persian Mulberry Fruits - in SoCal
« on: January 30, 2024, 11:22:43 AM »
It grows much faster when grafted on Morus alba, especially on a mature tree.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Persian Mulberry Fruits - in SoCal
« on: January 30, 2024, 11:19:01 AM »
Okay, thank you!  The sour, small sectioned one (not pictured) must be the persion mulberry.  That plant has not been growing well for us, I'll try to get it growing better.

Morus nigra ripens in summer and it needs to get fully black (if the birds allow it).

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Smallest Mango Fruit Variety
« on: January 30, 2024, 03:34:28 AM »
Isn't Piña Colada the best of the small mangoes?
If you had a box full of all these mangoes  listed. I know which one I would pick🙂👍

That's what I thought, I have the variety grafted and although I have not let it produce yet so I didn't taste it, everything I have read here during all these years is that it is definitely a top-tier mango, up there with the very best despite the small size.

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I would say any temperate fruit that requires chill hours would do better in SoCA

Yeap, that includes many berries too.

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Olive trees and fig trees too.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Smallest Mango Fruit Variety
« on: January 26, 2024, 03:05:52 PM »
Isn't Piña Colada the best of the small mangoes?

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If by doing better we mean producing higher quality fruit, mangoes.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: California Plant Hardiness Zones - 2023
« on: January 25, 2024, 02:54:05 PM »
I wonder how solid/useful this classification will be in the new climate scenario in which we already find ourselves. We have increasingly higher temperatures but we also have more extreme weather events. It has been many years since I have seen for the last time morning frost in the plains of some valleys in my area and yet I fear more now than 10 years ago that an unprecedented polar front will break all records and reach us, frying my trees. It has not happened, in fact, today Spain has broken the absolute record for maximum temperature in January in all of Europe with almost 31ºC (87ºF), but I am aware that we are entering unknown territory and that what was unthinkable until recently can happen now. So I increasingly take these classifications with a grain of salt...

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Loquats Fruiting in Canada
« on: January 24, 2024, 06:38:12 AM »
I have both Tanaka and Novak and I don't see any difference in their flowering/fruiting cycle from my other varieties I have on the same multi-grafted tree.

Thanks for clearing that up, Kaz

I saw that you also contributed to two older threads discussing possible Spring-flowering loquats when I tried searching for more info on Tanaka and Novak.

https://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=42244.0

https://tropicalfruitforum.com/index.php?topic=49139.0

Both you and Jose Spain are in agreement that loquat only flowers during the wintertime and that springtime blooms haven't occurred in either of your experiences.

A helpful user named Daytime Lobster did provide a useful link in one of the threads that links to an interesting article about possibly forcing a loquat to reflower by removing its main inflorescence. "Removal of the main inflorescence to induce reflowering of loquat" - https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S2468014121000480



Very interesting paper. I coincidentally cut off all the panicles from my Zaozhong 6 to get grafting material for a friend on the forum, when the fruit had already set. Zaozhong 6 is one of the parents of ZJ191 used in the study. My objective in this case is to produce more vegetative growth, logically, so I did not expect it to emit inflorescences by cutting the set fruits in the middle of December, but now I see that I will have to be attentive to possible extra late inflorescences. The branches are already flushing and at the moment they look like vegetative shoots but it is too early to be conclusive. We will see how it behaves

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Are these mango flower buds?
« on: January 21, 2024, 01:01:33 PM »
How can you tell it is mixed at this point?mine have looked the same and only gave leaves?

From experience, the apical bud scales have a hairiness typical of a panicle shoot, the lateral buds are rounded and whitish instead of green and pointed like in a vegetative bud at that stage.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: How Brad grew his avocado grove
« on: January 21, 2024, 09:00:59 AM »
Great info, Brad's orchard and experience are a reference for many of us growing under similar climates. Thanks both and keep it up!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Are these mango flower buds?
« on: January 20, 2024, 07:35:22 AM »
BTW, if it sets fruit, you should remove it. In Florida, at this time of the year, I don't know if it is necessary to wait until the fruitlets get about pea size like in SoCal (or Spain).

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Are these mango flower buds?
« on: January 20, 2024, 07:31:35 AM »
It's a mixed one, it produced leaves but those new buds pushing now are going to produce some flowers.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Loquat on Provence Quince?
« on: January 15, 2024, 06:36:38 PM »
I don't know about that particular quince variety, but loquat grafted on quince is common practice here in Spain. Nurseries sell it already grafted like this and I have also used it. The advantages are well-known, the only thing I could complain about is that they keep producing suckers away from the tree, but that is a source of new rootstocks in case you need them.

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Tetraconazol is the best I've used by far. Don't know if is available in the States.

Isn't that chemical used to control yeast on wheat grain?

No idea, in Europe is sold as anti-powdery mildew for home use. But being a fungicide it is very possible that has other uses.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: figs!!!! an underated fruit
« on: January 12, 2024, 04:49:49 PM »
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All figs we have in Algeria and we tons of variaties are self p
I think the bees do the work
Bees love them like shiit man especially when they ripen
The fig fruit produce a becter like honey and bees go crazy on it

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Bees, really? GOOD ONE!!!

In fact that pigeon neck (original names are Onq Al Hamam and Bjaw) is a Smyrna type, it needs the wasp (although the bees probably like it too ;).

As for the Albacor group of cvs (Ghoudanne, Colar...) they are productive and very good for markets because of their appealing appearance and resistance to transport, but regarding the taste, they are pretty bland when compared to others like CDD, Paratjal or Martinenca in Eastern Spain.

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Tetraconazol is the best I've used by far. Don't know if is available in the States.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: figs!!!! an underated fruit
« on: January 07, 2024, 02:23:19 PM »
Problem I don't know the names of our varieties in English lol

But I will. Share some. Picture and how we plant them
For me this is the best one

We call it
Bakor in our dialect

The tree produces big ones at first then it's final production in the season small. Ones


This is one of the main traditional varieties also here in Spain, where is commercially grown as "Albacor" https://es.wikipedia.org/wiki/Albacor or "Colar de Elche".





From Argelia I have Hafer Bghal, but I haven't tried it yet.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Learned from Grafting Crafton Clift
« on: January 02, 2024, 04:49:37 AM »
I was hoping this tree could support a fruit..Then we got constant rain for 5 days straight. It flushed new growth on half the tree. A week later, the other half flushed. Gary Zill says that newly flushed growth will not flower no matter what you do. I heard making branches go horizontal induces a hormonal change at the tips. Let's see if the Crafton Cliff technique does anything?


If you let your tree like this for a while, the branches won't recover their original position and you'll have to prune the whole tree under the bending area.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Anyone Have Ripe Avocados in December?
« on: December 18, 2023, 08:45:37 AM »
Bacon here starts to ripe in October and lasts until April.

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