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Ilama condition
« on: January 22, 2019, 02:27:56 AM »
First time with this species.  Germinated on own.  Was growing well then last month or so and then they start after to defoliate.  Am I missing something with them?  They’re in full sun.  Get decent wind protection. I notice where the leaves fell off are those new nodes for Future lead growth?








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Re: Ilama condition
« Reply #1 on: January 22, 2019, 04:31:17 AM »
Mine lost all its leaves in winter. But it came back stronger than ever in spring and summer!

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Re: Ilama condition
« Reply #2 on: January 22, 2019, 12:09:48 PM »
Supposed to have dry-cool-winter raggedy-leafed or naked dormancy.
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Re: Ilama condition
« Reply #3 on: January 22, 2019, 01:40:20 PM »
Supposed to have dry-cool-winter raggedy-leafed or naked dormancy.
Mine lost all its leaves in winter. But it came back stronger than ever in spring and summer!

okay. so i guess so far so good. if i see it shrivel up turn black and decay, you think it has a chance for survival?  ha ha ha j/k.  thanks guys for the feedback.  at least i 'think' i'm on the right track. 

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Re: Ilama condition
« Reply #4 on: January 22, 2019, 02:15:57 PM »
My Ilamas are probably the best looking trees with cherimoyas no leaves drop

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« Reply #5 on: January 22, 2019, 02:46:25 PM »
My Ilamas are probably the best looking trees with cherimoyas no leaves drop

i'm hoping that these seedlings will do well and then when time comes, want to get scions from you. just couldn't do in past since didn't have the rootstocks to match.

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Re: Ilama condition
« Reply #6 on: January 22, 2019, 05:39:28 PM »
My Ilamas are probably the best looking trees with cherimoyas no leaves drop

i'm hoping that these seedlings will do well and then when time comes, want to get scions from you. just couldn't do in past since didn't have the rootstocks to match.

Sugar apple rootstock are the best match I’ve found for ilamas in the tropics. My anonas sales is in March

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Re: Ilama condition
« Reply #7 on: January 22, 2019, 06:28:17 PM »
Here they are semi deciduous losing some leaves in Winter, did you use GA TAAo sprout them?
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Re: Ilama condition
« Reply #8 on: January 22, 2019, 10:20:05 PM »
Here they are semi deciduous losing some leaves in Winter, did you use GA TAAo sprout them?

Nope,   Refrigerator !

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Re: Ilama condition
« Reply #9 on: January 23, 2019, 10:27:39 AM »
JF, How old are the ilama trees that you have growing on Sugar-Apple root-stock?
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Re: Ilama condition
« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2019, 12:28:34 AM »
JF, How old are the ilama trees that you have growing on Sugar-Apple root-stock?

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I just started experimenting about 3 months ago. I failed on custard apple and guanabana but have several takes on saramoyos. my ilamas  in California are on cherimoya rootstocks


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Re: Ilama condition
« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2019, 08:32:11 AM »
Interesting!  Which variety of Sugar-Apple was the seed source?

Please let us know how they are doing when they are a year or so old, as then we can consider them to probably be "out of the woods."
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Re: Ilama condition
« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2019, 08:01:21 PM »
Interesting!  Which variety of Sugar-Apple was the seed source?

Please let us know how they are doing when they are a year or so old, as then we can consider them to probably be "out of the woods."


Both scions that took are on giant Yucatán. They should be ok my ilamas in California have been on cherimoya for 5-6 years
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Re: Ilama condition
« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2019, 08:52:24 PM »
Excellent info--- especially encouraging with the cherimoya as root-stock.

It is also very interesting that your "Sugar-Apple" initial success is on the 'Giant Yucatan' Saramuyo.  When I was hybridizing, the very similar 'M-1' behaved so differently from Sugar-Apples in general that I wondered if it might be a separate species, or a natural hybrid, or ....
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Re: Ilama condition
« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2019, 10:28:10 PM »
Excellent info--- especially encouraging with the cherimoya as root-stock.

It is also very interesting that your "Sugar-Apple" initial success is on the 'Giant Yucatan' Saramuyo.  When I was hybridizing, the very similar 'M-1' behaved so differently from Sugar-Apples in general that I wondered if it might be a separate species, or a natural hybrid, or ....

Some are hybrids. Look at the fruits and leaves of both of these saramuyos. I have found many hybrid around the city and in the experimental stations.





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Re: Ilama condition
« Reply #15 on: January 25, 2019, 02:17:22 PM »
Good pictures!

The first picture looks similar to the 'M-1'  X A. reticulata hybrids that I made quite a few of.  I was never able to get viable plants of Annona squamosa X Annona reticulata, using any normal variety of Sugar-Apple.
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« Reply #16 on: January 25, 2019, 11:58:11 PM »
Good pictures!

The first picture looks similar to the 'M-1'  X A. reticulata hybrids that I made quite a few of.  I was never able to get viable plants of Annona squamosa X Annona reticulata, using any normal variety of Sugar-Apple.

This very common in the Yucatán. Saramoyos & custar apples cross pollinate in the city and in the field. Here is a pix of a hybrid in uxmal campo



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Re: Ilama condition
« Reply #17 on: January 26, 2019, 03:15:27 PM »
Good sleuthing!
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