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Tropical Fruit => Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade => Topic started by: Frog Valley Farm on March 14, 2019, 09:30:42 AM
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Wow I just can't imagine who would be lucky enough to get this farm. I love Vero Beach and the old Florida vibe.
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Are the 2 white mercedes included?
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Quite a collection of trees for sure, that's not typical.
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How old are the achacha?
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hope property still available when I hit the lottery jackpot.
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Where are you moving to? :) Where is a better place? :)
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The passive-aggressiveness is a bit "cunty" FYI
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I wish you all the Best!
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How big is the house?
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The passive-aggressiveness is a bit "cunty" FYI
Yes one of my many many many faults. Thankfully I’ve never been called a Misogynist, FYI.
The house is 2500’
I think Chris was referring to the bizarre comments and use of :)'s by "kar1ma3." (?)
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Yes. That was meant for kar1ma3. No offense meant
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I thought I’d try this again
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I spoke with the Demeter USA people about a couple of concerns I had that I felt might keep us from getting our Biodynamic Certification. They said we should qualify and my concerns will not prevent certification. I’m working on the application now and should file next week. They say they can have everything verified within 12 weeks. Having the USDA organic certification will speed things up as you must satisfy all usda organic system qualifications as a basis for Biodynamic Certification. I thought we might be the first in Florida but there is a farm in Homestead that got it recently. Hopefully we will be the 2nd and I believe we will be the first Rare Tropical Fruit Farm to become Demeter USA certified. All the records from seed to fruit is almost overwhelming, tropical fruit with provenance.
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Why sell?
You do tours? I might be driving through there next month
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We are looking for someone that understands regenerative farming with the capabilities to bring this place into its next management phase of full blown production. I’m not sure if we are able to do that, for those reasons we are looking for those people. I’m kinda particular to who I give tours to. Unless someone is 100 percent committed to regenerative agriculture I’m not remotely interested in showing. I’ve been focusing on rare herbs and exotic tropical for the last six months and it’s starting to look more like a garden.
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I imagine someone could create a modest revenue stream on Etsy or bananza or eBay with all the different plants like rhizomes from heliconia and edible ginger flowers like etlingera plus cut flowers and exotic herbs like Kratom, psychotria sp.’’, seeds from rare cycads and fruit tree seeds.
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And the division of hundreds of expensive tropical house plants that thrive outside here.
Unfortunately or maybe fortunate the centerpiece of our regenerative farming system is the uncut orchard floor. Floridians don’t understand this but we could not get certified Biodynamic without this crucial
insectaria but also it’s crucial for the soil health in our system. Rather than inspire it has had the opposite effect on neighbors who’ve taken to clearing everything, mowing the forest floor in the wild areas then burning it for what is days at a time. Oh well at least the winds blow towards them.
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Isn't controlled burning necessary and beneficial with pine forests?
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Isn't controlled burning necessary and beneficial with pine forests?
i didn’t quite write that out intelligibly. Since this is a particularly close in expensive area it was all done on a heavily forested lot to gain ag exemption. Yes controlled burns in a forest can be beneficial, this is clear cutting healthy old growth oak and pine trees. Driving large trucks on future growing area and dragging the trees to said pile, Removing any and all understory vegetation in remaining woods, manually raking the still standing forest floor then burning the debris in one huge pile on a portion of the clear cut area. He also plants rows of 25 gal. mangos above ground in 2’ deep compost (basic city woody compost), fertilizes gets phenomenal growth of six flushes per year then every time wind blows he has to stake them. They all end up on there sides and have now been pruned heavily and have multiple stakes with ropes, the type you would see on an antennae holding them in place. He also uses glysophate on the compost beneath the trees he adds compost of more than 6” every couple months. The trees are now smaller than when he started with obvious signs of glysophate damage. I can only assume he is doing this for my entertainment since cleared the area between our properties so I can see how it’s done. All Keitts. The sad part is he wanted to get a tax deduction for farm. If he had asked me I would have explained he could have strategically cleared weed trees planted in random areas throughout his property, left his wild areas and claimed them for Organic Certification and had all his property tax exempt and end up with about the same amount of growing area that was clearcut if not more. Because he clear cut he will be disqualified from Organic Certification. And can only write off the two acres he clear cut. Oh well it’s his right. Maybe he’s onto something.
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I am much more oriented towards "traditional" methods and happily use glyphosate, fertilizers, etc. However I completely respect what you are going for and wish you the best.
Perhaps you could create a drone flyby video and post on youtube to show off? :)
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I am much more oriented towards "traditional" methods and happily use glyphosate, fertilizers, etc. However I completely respect what you are going for and wish you the best.
Perhaps you could create a drone flyby video and post on youtube to show off? :)
We are growing food in the traditional manner in which food has been grown historically for 1000’ of years.
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Maybe “typical” is the right word instead.
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Maybe “typical” is the right word instead.
I am fairly certain the term is conventional agriculture system or industrial
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Or "lazy"/"convenient" agriculture.
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Definitely lazy & convenient :)
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Those are nice ways to say toxic , degenerative earth fucking. Most folks learn that way and don’t desire to learn more and think the work much harder. We live in a world of shortcuts and time saving devices and mechanisms that usually revolve around time and money. Once your regenerative system is in place it is much more functional and healthy for everyone and everything. See’ing dead toxic soil all over California’s agricultural fields is a mega monocrop bummer. When will we collectively learn. Each 1 , Teach 1.
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I just submitted our paperwork to Demeter USA. Ugh! We should be Biodynamic Certified soon.
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Those are nice ways to say toxic , degenerative earth fucking. Most folks learn that way and don’t desire to learn more and think the work much harder. We live in a world of shortcuts and time saving devices and mechanisms that usually revolve around time and money. Once your regenerative system is in place it is much more functional and healthy for everyone and everything. See’ing dead toxic soil all over California’s agricultural fields is a mega monocrop bummer. When will we collectively learn. Each 1 , Teach 1.
“Earth Fucking” should be the new term everyone uses.
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I just submitted our paperwork to Demeter USA. Ugh! We should be Biodynamic Certified soon.
Good luck!!! You got this!
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Those are nice ways to say toxic , degenerative earth fucking. Most folks learn that way and don’t desire to learn more and think the work much harder. We live in a world of shortcuts and time saving devices and mechanisms that usually revolve around time and money. Once your regenerative system is in place it is much more functional and healthy for everyone and everything. See’ing dead toxic soil all over California’s agricultural fields is a mega monocrop bummer. When will we collectively learn. Each 1 , Teach 1.
“Earth Fucking” should be the new term everyone uses.
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This property has actually made me start buying lottery tickets!
Carolyn
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Those are nice ways to say toxic , degenerative earth fucking. Most folks learn that way and don’t desire to learn more and think the work much harder. We live in a world of shortcuts and time saving devices and mechanisms that usually revolve around time and money. Once your regenerative system is in place it is much more functional and healthy for everyone and everything. See’ing dead toxic soil all over California’s agricultural fields is a mega monocrop bummer. When will we collectively learn. Each 1 , Teach 1.
Imagine California with all that fertile farmland preserved instead of abused and depleted. (Pre-Conquest more indigenous people lived in the area of California than all the rest of the contiguous 48 combined.) Now back to Frog Valley Farm. Sorry.