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Ordered 4lbs of fresh organic Cherimoya from Good Land Organics. All I can say is that it’s about the most amazing fruit that I’ve ever eaten. Essentially vanilla, pineapple, banana, and sugar blended together and stuffed inside a fruit shell. My wife almost came to tears when I told her we can’t grow it here in Miami

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I would plant the abiu  in the red soil not the caprock as for sun partial for young to about 4 feet or more then full sun,I think that's what your already doing.When I plant them it in the shade of some tree I'm going to cut back or remove.I found one today and planted it,it had only one seed, and the only fruit that I could see left in the tree.They are making flowers now.I did see some seedlings growing under the older trees I should dig them out
   Homestead is a great farming community and I hope it stays that way for a long time I have good memories of Homestead and learned a great deal from the old timers.

I fully agree. My wife and I are very blessed to own some land out here.  There's a lot of history and knowledge here, especially when it comes to farming as you mentioned.  Thanks for the info.

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Yeah sometimes first flowering don't fruit and it varies between seedlings as to how much they will make in the long run.But some are over achievers to the point of over doing it.where I grow I just pull some soil away put the seeds in and walk away ,just different soil

Yeah we have about 6 inches of the most amazing red, nutrient rich soil you could ever as for and then just 10 feet of solid limestone rock.  For this reason, our area is extremely conducive to crop farming and adult trees that are really able to hold their ground during hurricanes.  I'm be honest, its great to hear of more people in South Florida growing and fruiting these, because for awhile there I just thought it was a myth.  I've found seedling plants are VERY sensitive.

Shot, do you find they grow better in full or partial sun?

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I was also happy with abiuflowers but then......they did not open and dropped  >:(

That maybe the case for me as well, time will tell.  But for now I have high hopes; this fruit/tree has yet to beat me into submission.

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So I've been trying to grow Abiu for a few years and my trees usually do decent in the pots and then once transplanted into the ground, slowly die.  I've found from my experience and from help on this forum that they like acidic soil (maybe why they do so well in volcanic regions like Hawaii and Brazil) and lots of water and humidity.  Down here in Zone 10b South Florida humidity is not an issue, nor is watering but soil is a problem.  So what I started to do is to leave the Abiu in the pots with potting mixes (usually more acidic than our alkaline soil) until they are 5-6FT juvenile trees, rather than transplanting smaller trees immediately into the soil from their 3 gallon containers.  Then when I transplant, I move the trees up to a 45 gallon pot full of acidic potting mix and plant inground inside the pots.  This seems to help the trees maintain more of an acidic soil base over time.  I also read online and found that it helps to do an annual chelated iron drench.  All in all, its a very difficult tree to get going down here but I now see the light at the end of the tunnel.  Super stoked to try my first Abiu fruits. Fingers Crossed.

I'll add some photos to this post next week when I get a chance to return to the property.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Digging up a mango tree
« on: February 24, 2018, 11:13:28 AM »
F yeah Johnny! Way to go. I love that. Chris

Buddy told me he was gonna cut it down to make more room for his patio. I told him I don’t think so

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Digging up a mango tree
« on: February 23, 2018, 09:50:28 PM »
See the Haden I transplanted last year. Your tree is a baby compared to this one. We hacked every leafing branch off and dug a good root ball. Transplanted it and every other day for the first 30 days I drained a 55 gallon drum of water mixed with Super Thrive onto the base of the tree. The two photos show the tree’s recovery not even 10 months later. Didn’t show one sign of stress at any point. IMO mango trees are amongst the easiest trees to transplant. For me, Mamey is the most difficult







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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Coconut Cream Mango tree
« on: February 23, 2018, 01:45:21 PM »
6 - 8 years to fruit, or to fruit heavily? Was hoping to have fruit in the next year or 2, planted in ground last year and is currently about 7 - 8 feet tall and a bit spindly. Worth waiting for either way.

Mine grew the same way.  It was very stringy up until about 9ft, but after that its really started to fill out.  Late bloomer in the foliage density arena I guess. It's about 11ft now and I'm happy with the density.  Flowering could be better but it looks acceptable this year.

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I have an electric 16 gallon high pressure tank sprayer from Northern Tool. I should have bought the Tow-Behind one.  It sprays 15 vertically with a good mist and maybe 25 with a jet spray.

https://www.northerntool.com/shop/tools/product_200649533_200649533

I just ordered this guy.  No bug or fungus shall escape

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Score! They do take several years to begin production, and try to plant in a cold protected area (south side of a structure).


Got it. Thanks!

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I think they are slightly more cold sensitive than mamey sapote. Julian or Pablo Lara will give you good info.

Ok, I was not familiar with their cold sensitivity. Are they any more cold sensitive than A traditional Mamey Sapote? Lara is right in my area so maybe I’ll check them out this week and bend their ear.  Thanks CM !

Thanks again Jeff, I picked up a beautiful 7 gallon today from Lara. They had them in the hoop house along with their fresh grafts. I got a really nice 5/6 footer with nice branching.

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Ok, I was not familiar with their cold sensitivity. Are they any more cold sensitive than A traditional Mamey Sapote? Lara is right in my area so maybe I’ll check them out this week and bend their ear.  Thanks CM !

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There’s not much info on growing this species online, other than general info. I’m working on grabbing a tree now and want to ensure I’m not missing something. I know they tend to grow fast and large and that most of the grafted trees are hermaphroditic, but I’d like some information on cultivars, growing experiences in south Florida, and anything else unique to this tree. I know Fairchild has undertaken and extensive breeding program to determine superior cultivars, but nobody ever calls me back or can answer any of my questions. Thanks!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jackfruit at whole foods
« on: February 17, 2018, 07:52:32 PM »
I would recommend not buying the Mexican imported ones or the fruit from Johnny Redland's neighbor.

 ;) X 2

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Lemon - deformity
« on: February 17, 2018, 06:37:32 PM »
Fukushima. Now you go on and git over to the citrus forum. YA GIT!

Lol.  Nobody reads that sh!t and I wanted everybody to see my weirdo fruit.

Haha

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jackfruit at whole foods
« on: February 17, 2018, 06:35:54 PM »
We have a Mexican flea market down here in Miami that I get them from for $1.50/lb. Not a special variety by any means....but they never disappoint. I have a neighbor with 40 pounders annually on her tree in her yard and they are tasteless garbage. So you really never know

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Least Colorful Mangos
« on: February 16, 2018, 11:02:18 AM »
Ice Cream and Okrung come to mind

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Tree Oozing Brownish Orange Sap
« on: February 16, 2018, 10:05:09 AM »
Same problem on my Lemon Zest. I saw several spots that looked like brownish red bubbles appearing to be sap. We had temps in the upper 20s for several nights. Not a single green leaf on them currently but scratching the bark reveals green. Spray it with neem?

I've got a bunch of new green little sprouts coming out now, so what I did was cut back the burnt tips far enough to see green wood, but not far enough to remove any green sprouts that are shooting out of the branching.  I think this will help the tree recover, especially with spring around the corner.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Tree Oozing Brownish Orange Sap
« on: February 15, 2018, 11:22:41 AM »
Abiu is a major PITA but it is also one of the best fruits known to man. I will continue murdering them until they submit or I end up living on the streets from buying too many seeds and plants and not paying my bills.

Well then...let us suffer together my friend

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Tree Oozing Brownish Orange Sap
« on: February 15, 2018, 09:10:07 AM »
I'm just going to hack it back, fertilize with micros, and cut watering back to once per week on that tree and see how that goes.  Other than Abiu, this would be the first out of 40+ trees that I've lost so if I have to replant, no biggie.  But my mango trees shine in the summer down here, so it has the best chance its gonna get at recovering. Man.....Abiu is a PITA

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Tree Oozing Brownish Orange Sap
« on: February 14, 2018, 09:26:44 PM »
I have had similar issues in the past with potted mangos and heavy rains. The overwatering was probably the main issue but they most likely had some micronutrient deficiency as well. How much water have you been giving them?

I irrigate every 2 to 3 days during winter for around 40 minutes. All other mango trees on my property look stellar

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Tree Oozing Brownish Orange Sap
« on: February 14, 2018, 08:09:40 PM »
Looks like Gummosis.

Yes it does. I read that freeze damage can be one of the triggers. But Squam is right, that recorded temps did not get below 38F as far as I can remember

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Tree Oozing Brownish Orange Sap
« on: February 14, 2018, 06:49:23 PM »
Freeze damage. Cut it back and it will grow out ok.

Gotcha. I figured but just wanted a second opinion before hacking away. Thanks!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Tree Oozing Brownish Orange Sap
« on: February 14, 2018, 04:08:50 PM »
As you can see from the photo, my juvenile Golden Nugget Mango tree is oozing this ugly orange sap from several places. The tree took it the hardest out of all my mango trees after the few cold snaps we had this winter.  Would this have anything to do with it? Is this something to be concerned about? Tree looks worse than frozen dog sh*t now.



Not really. Just the two cold snaps near 39F. There is some new flush coming out now, so that’s a positive sign but otherwise it’s a crispy tree

Definitely concerning.  Looks to be on the decline. Did it incur any drought stress or flooding?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: If you like PINA COLADAS
« on: February 14, 2018, 03:32:14 PM »
Is it normal for this tree to (or any mango tree for that matter) to produce flowers directly after new flush? I thought mine was going to disappoint because it only produced 3 flowers and the rest turned into new flush, but now it appears in the center of the new flush some flowers are appearing and even some new flush that actually has flowers on the stalk directly below the flush. Is this normal?

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