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Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« Reply #1925 on: November 17, 2016, 01:24:13 AM »
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Some people have said that Voodoo Child is 8-5. Mattslandscape says "Neon" is similar to Voodoo Child.
Linda Nickerson, the person who named Paul Thomson’s 8-S "Sugar Dragon" says Voodoo Child is not actually 8-S AKA Sugar Dragon.
Linda says she has both Voodoo Child and Sugar Dragon and they are not the same.  Sugar Dragon is much more productive, and in her opinion, better tasting.
I do not know if Arizona Purple is 8-S (or Voodoo Child).

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Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« Reply #1926 on: November 23, 2016, 08:25:20 AM »
Is any one in Florida growing Edgar's Baby and Tricia?

These two varieties seem to be mass produced and sold in many places.  Probably tissue culture. I find little on Tricia, a little more on Edgar's. Any one has experience with them?
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Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« Reply #1927 on: November 23, 2016, 01:34:51 PM »
Is any one in Florida growing Edgar's Baby and Tricia?

These two varieties seem to be mass produced and sold in many places.  Probably tissue culture. I find little on Tricia, a little more on Edgar's. Any one has experience with them?

Edgar's Baby should become more available in So Cal.
Last week I toured the large La Verne wholesale nursery again. La Verne is planning on adding Edgar's Baby as a named variety.
La Verne currently grows white flesh, pink flesh, red flesh, and a yellow megalanthus no-name varieties.
There is also "talk" of La Verne adding a Yellow Undatus variety. La Verne is the Dragon Fruit plant provider for Lowe's and Home Depot in the West.

Tricia, on the other hand, I don't think is massed produced. I was recently given some Tricia cuttings and can't believe how thorny (cactus like) they are. Nasty thorns!

Tricia and Edgar's Baby are both cultivars of Edgar Valdivia.

Edgar admiring a La Verne yellow megalanthus parent plant.



P.S. Because of demand, La Verne is growing a ton of Mango trees for the So Cal masses.
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Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« Reply #1928 on: November 23, 2016, 03:56:09 PM »
Rick I think Tricia is being mass produced via tissue culture that is why there are so many people selling it on line.
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Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« Reply #1929 on: November 23, 2016, 04:08:30 PM »
Rick I think Tricia is being mass produced via tissue culture that is why there are so many people selling it on line.

I am not questioning you, but I am curious.  Can you provide a link to Tricia being sold online?

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Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« Reply #1930 on: November 23, 2016, 08:11:15 PM »


P.S. Because of demand, La Verne is growing a ton of Mango trees for the So Cal masses.

Yea, that's what they've been saying for the last 6 years but seing is believing

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Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« Reply #1931 on: November 23, 2016, 08:13:53 PM »


P.S. Because of demand, La Verne is growing a ton of Mango trees for the So Cal masses.

Yea, that's what they've been saying for the last 6 years but seing is believing


I want to know what varieties they're going to offer.
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Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« Reply #1932 on: November 23, 2016, 08:43:25 PM »

P.S. Because of demand, La Verne is growing a ton of Mango trees for the So Cal masses.

Yea, that's what they've been saying for the last 6 years but seing is believing

You doubt me?

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Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« Reply #1933 on: November 23, 2016, 08:45:29 PM »

P.S. Because of demand, La Verne is growing a ton of Mango trees for the So Cal masses.

Yea, that's what they've been saying for the last 6 years but seing is believing

You doubt me?

are you la verne?

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Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« Reply #1934 on: November 23, 2016, 08:53:26 PM »
I'm not Markinson. Are you Markinson?
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Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« Reply #1935 on: November 23, 2016, 11:05:25 PM »
Any member willing to sell me some cutting . Looking for Frankie red and physical garfitii  ?

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Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« Reply #1936 on: November 23, 2016, 11:34:08 PM »
Rick I think Tricia is being mass produced via tissue culture that is why there are so many people selling it on line.

I am not questioning you, but I am curious.  Can you provide a link to Tricia being sold online?
One of many
https://www.etsy.com/listing/481402779/tricia-dragon-fruit-hylocereus?ref=unav_listing-other
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Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« Reply #1937 on: November 24, 2016, 12:18:58 AM »
Thank you Carlos. I did not know that. I think you are right, they are tissue culturing Tricia.

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Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« Reply #1938 on: November 24, 2016, 10:51:31 AM »
Is any one in Florida growing Edgar's Baby and Tricia?
These two varieties seem to be mass produced and sold in many places.  Probably tissue culture. I find little on Tricia, a little more on Edgar's. Any one has experience with them?

Last September we got to taste Tricia and Edgar's Baby at Edgar's house after a CRFG meeting.

Both Tricia and Edgar's Baby are shown in my video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BU3GmE-WRuk&

Both are very good tasting.

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Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« Reply #1939 on: November 25, 2016, 09:19:13 PM »

I am not questioning you, but I am curious.  Can you provide a link to Tricia being sold online?


One of many
https://www.etsy.com/listing/481402779/tricia-dragon-fruit-hylocereus?ref=unav_listing-other


I shared the above link with Edgar.

Here is Edgar's response:

Hi Richard,
Hope you and your family had a wonderful Thanksgiving.
Thank you for the email about the nursery selling Tricia. I have no idea who the owners are or how they got a cutting of Tricia.
But, I am very sure it was done through tissue culture.
I hope it is the real Tricia, because it is a really great tasting fruit. I am very glad they are selling it, so at least more people will be able to grow this particular variety.
I had nothing to do with this project and do not get any money from it. You know this is my hobby and I love to share my plants with everybody.
Regards,
Edgar

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Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« Reply #1940 on: November 27, 2016, 12:26:44 PM »

I am not questioning you, but I am curious.  Can you provide a link to Tricia being sold online?


One of many
https://www.etsy.com/listing/481402779/tricia-dragon-fruit-hylocereus?ref=unav_listing-other


I shared the above link with Edgar.

Here is Edgar's response:

Hi Richard,
Hope you and your family had a wonderful Thanksgiving.
Thank you for the email about the nursery selling Tricia. I have no idea who the owners are or how they got a cutting of Tricia.
But, I am very sure it was done through tissue culture.
I hope it is the real Tricia, because it is a really great tasting fruit. I am very glad they are selling it, so at least more people will be able to grow this particular variety.
I had nothing to do with this project and do not get any money from it. You know this is my hobby and I love to share my plants with everybody.
Regards,
Edgar

Thanks for sharing that response Richard.

This is why Edgar is the man. So many passionate hobbyists (like Leo Manuel and many of the CRFGers) who breed such awesome fruit and do it because they just love to do it.

A few from my chapter (AZRFG) went to the Festival of Fruit this year. I was not able to go. But a number of them said they really enjoyed his Dragon Fruit talk.
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Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« Reply #1941 on: November 28, 2016, 01:26:22 AM »
Hello,

What is the recommended way to plant a dragon fruit cutting? Do you re-cut at the thickest point of the cutting and then stick the cutting into the soil? My own thought is that then you get both a fresh cut, plus a stronger bottom stem. Here is a pic of 2 cuttings:



This is all new to me so I would appreciate any advice.

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Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« Reply #1942 on: November 28, 2016, 01:32:23 AM »
Hello,
What is the recommended way to plant a dragon fruit cutting? Do you re-cut at the thickest point of the cutting and then stick the cutting into the soil?
My own thought is that then you get both a fresh cut, plus a stronger bottom stem. Here is a pic of 2 cuttings:

This is all new to me so I would appreciate any advice.
Tomas

I see no reason to re-cut the cuttings pictured.

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Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« Reply #1943 on: November 28, 2016, 01:52:08 AM »
Hi ricshaw,

Thanks for the quick answer. I was also wondering whether a cutting is still viable after a week?

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Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« Reply #1944 on: November 28, 2016, 02:35:17 AM »
Cuttings can last many months out of soil. Freezing, cold wetness, intense heat/sun could kill them. If you're worried about them rotting in the winter cold wet soil, you could put the bottoms on top of moist soil and let them root that way.

Rooting them in water also works but normally not required. It's pretty hard to kill. Just keep it out of extreme conditions until they have roots. It's even okay to pull out the cutting to check for roots. They grow back fast.

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Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« Reply #1945 on: November 28, 2016, 10:46:11 AM »
I finally got around to planting some dragon fruit in a permanent location.
I cut down a palm to around 7 feet and will let the dragon fruit grow up it. I have American Beauty, Haileys Comet and Natural Mystic.


I'm pretty new to dragon fruits, does anyone have any tips for me?

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Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« Reply #1946 on: December 06, 2016, 04:49:23 PM »
Comparing thorns on two Dragon Fruit cuttings.   ???



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Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« Reply #1947 on: December 06, 2016, 04:53:08 PM »
That Tricia looks aggressive.
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Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« Reply #1948 on: December 06, 2016, 06:34:48 PM »
The Tricia thorns looks a bit like my generic white-fleshed dragonfruit, they are very very sharp!  My LaVerne Pink is closer to the 9-S.  Interesting the variety of thorns!
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Re: Dragon Fruit thread.
« Reply #1949 on: December 07, 2016, 12:55:08 AM »
The Tricia thorns looks a bit like my generic white-fleshed dragonfruit, they are very very sharp!  My LaVerne Pink is closer to the 9-S.  Interesting the variety of thorns!

I have never seen a generic white-flesh DF (Hylocereus undatus) with thorns that looked like Tricia.