The Tropical Fruit Forum

Fairchild is a delicious and extremely productive mango, and the trees can be kept pretty small.  I think it would make a fine choice for container growing.

Some Most of the mostly widely planted mangos in the world started out as a backyard seedling that someone named.

 

Its mostly a July mango. Some fruit might still be hanging on in early August.

Its like a smaller fruited, more productive Haden to me.

Pretty good talk, didn't even have to mention mangoes, although he did go over Kastoree, Lalejewe, and Rampagni. He was supposed to cover 24 species of fruit but ended up discussing a lot more than that.

He made a point to note what grew better in Broward's soil as opposed to Dade's (practically everything).

In addition to the new mameys and saps he touched a little on the "new" avocado cultivars they're introducing. I didn't take any notes but the one whose name I could remember was called "Blass", a black skinned type which he claimed to be of "pure West Indian" heritage. The description of the fruit and where it was discovered made it sound like a Guatemalan type though.

MP looks to be having a down year crop-wise.

I think peaches are a much better alternative crop to replace citrus.

Mexicola turns black, though its not widely grown in Florida despite performing well.

Harry has an avocado called 'Oasis' that turns black.

CTMIAMI, does Mike Hunt not know where the Oro Negro tree came from? That publication from Africa also has photos of a bunch of California types that definitely didn't originate in Africa.

I will soon be planting my container lychee trees in the ground.  I'm looking for advice as to their ultimate size if left unpruned, of the following varieties of lychee trees so that I can give them an appropriate spot in the yard depending on their space needs. 

Sweetheart (medium?)
Kaimana (small/medium?)
Mauritius (large?)
Ohia (small/medium?)
No Mai tsze (small/medium?)
Emperor (medium?)

Thanks!

Brad

Emperor is small, probably the smallest of the whole group. Kaimana is more medium (and doesn't fruit well in FL)

wait wait!  here is a test run with a pic of my Cogshall and the other seven dwarfs..pickering...can u spot the loner

The one in the front right pushing out new growth is the Cogshall. Cogshall is one of the few mangoes that can often be ID'd without any fruit on it.

Harry, Squam, thanks for the feedback. Saw it in a HD amid the numerous Tommy Atkins and Glenns. The most info on it was the pdf Squam linked to. Will have a look again at it tomorrow if it's still there. Depending on how I feel...who knows. Just because  .

How is your soil? If its sandy and not mucky, and you limit the nitrogen you give it, it probably wouldn't be bad.  But if you were choosing between that and Cogshall....Cogshall wins in sheer domination.

Quote from: Squam256 on September 21, 2012, 08:30:56 PM

Actually its 'Torbert'  . Though its commonly misspelled 'Torbet'. Was named after the Torbert family of Homestead, who still live(d) there as of recently.

Not according to the Fairchild Mango Book.  They say it is Torbet, named after the Torbet family located in Goulds and specifically the property of Nellie Torbet.  They say it is commonly misspelled Tolbert.  I guess there are more misspellings than we know.

Yes, it does say that. It was also published I believe in 1992. Here is what was written in 2004:

http://www.fshs.org/Proceedings/Password%20Protected/2004%20v.%20117/201-202.pdf

2nd paragraph under 'Origin':

Brief descriptions of this mango have been published under the names 'Torbet', 'Torbit', and 'Tolbert' (Campbell, 1992; Krochmal, 1963; Krochmal and Salgado, 1961). We now consider the correct name to be 'Torbert' after the persons who discovered the cultivar, and who still live in the area of Homestead, Fla.

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Quote from: MarinFla on September 17, 2012, 09:39:35 PM

After much consideration I have decided to top work my seedling avocado tree. It is just a monster that I let grow out of control prior to getting infected with the tropical fruit growing disease. I plan to cut the seedling in the next couple of weeks and graft 4 different varieties. I am in need of some opinions. While I realize these opinions  are all subjective, it is better than nothing as I don't have time to try them all prior to getting started.
Here are the following varieties I have narrowed it down to, however I am open to suggestions:
I was thinking of picking from the following 6 varieties
Miguel (July-Sept) 'b' type flower
Day (July-Sept)
Simmonds (June-Aug) 'a' type
Florida Haas (Oct-Nov) 'a' type
Bacon  (Sept-Oct) 'b' type
Oro Negro (Nov-Jan) 'b' type
Monroe (Nov-Feb) 'b' type

Marin:

I would probably graft Simmonds (early), Miguel (mid), and Monroe (late) because they are three varieties popular with commercial growers, which translates to the trees being productive.  You may not feel too good about a particular avocado if it doesn't bear much fruit.  The mix of early, mid, and late season avocados would ensure a long avocado season for you.

Some avocados are plenty productive enough for the home grower despite not being grown commercially; the commercially adapted ones just happen to be the most productive. When you are dealing with the kind of scale most commercial growers are, a small difference in pounds produced/tree can make a big impact on the bottom line.

If she prefers Hass-like flavor/texture then those 3 wouldn't really fit.

That brings us back to the oldest Florida Avocado question in the book....What would be the best fit for "Hass type" taste in Florida? Maybe Oro Negro, Brogdan. Florida Hass, Lula, Hass, Winter Mexican ?

Yup, those would probably all be good choices except regular Hass which tends to do really poorly here. Also I haven't tried Oro Negro yet but based on descriptions it seems to fit into the category. Mexicola and Bacon belong on the list as well. Mexicola is pretty productive and tasty too, just on the smaller side.

I want some seeds, so that I can get them germinated and grow into an alona tree
not sure if I made sense here

Well then Murahilin does not have any Alano seeds to share. lol