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726
It certainly appears to be an off-type. The leaves are quite narrow for CC.

Without people planting off-type seeds, new varieties would never be selected.

The sibling is likely a true to type offspring. Have you crushed immature leaves and compared the aromas?

727
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Identification.
« on: May 17, 2020, 09:49:41 PM »
I love Maha, it's an interesting combination of durian and parsnips at the right stage.

I would grow it.

Mangoes are an arboreal species, and not particularly suited to container culture.

728
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: P22 mango
« on: May 17, 2020, 09:35:49 PM »
One of the most recent Zill experimental releases. Monoembryonic (as of yet no poly seeds have been confirmed). Flavor is indochinese (Parsnip flavored) without the acid balance of other ZINC offspring. Texture is creamy.

729
You can do it at any time.

Heading back a tree leads to weak spreading growth, a problem CC is notorious for even without topping.

When thinning, remove the branch at the trunk so the wound gets isolated faster.

730
I've been getting PM even on the varieties purported to be resistant.

That said I've been looking for an appropriate Indian spice type mango to grow down here.

It seems that J-12 may be the answer, both trees (Florida rootstock and grafted by me) both appear to be growing well, limiting their flowering to an amount that won't stunt them, and actually setting fruit despite all the PM on the bloom. Val-Carrie on the other hand seems somewhat sensitive and is reblooming profusely. If VC starts putting out vegetative growth I may change my opinion, but it seems unwilling to do so so far, despite temps remaining in the high 70's/ low 80's at night.

Hopefully Itamaraca is a more vigorous Kesar.

731
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Irwin mango
« on: May 17, 2020, 09:17:09 PM »
I would give it a few years to get established in the ground before allowing it to hold fruit.

732
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Identification.
« on: May 17, 2020, 09:14:39 PM »
Super-early Maha. Mine flowered around October last year. It recently keeled over.

733
A tree feeds a village.

If you don't want to waste any, I've heard they dry well

734
I was more interested in Mankur.

735
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pace vs Excalibur Mamey
« on: May 17, 2020, 01:14:18 PM »
Next time I travel to Florida I will hunt down some mamey. It's my favorite palleta. Too bad it hasn't caught on in the local growers circle. I tried growing one from seed, but it's a very slow grower. I gave up for it.

736
Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Moving to a warmer country?
« on: May 17, 2020, 01:44:53 AM »
What about Spain? During the summer you’ll enjoy the hot weather and sun and winters are mild and a little bit windy. I don’t think you’ll like to live a longer period in a tropical areas like Bali or Ecuador. Usually autumns and winters there are really rainy and windy so if you dream about parties on the beach then forget about that. However, you will grow there easily your plants. Another point is in case you will achieve your dream of growing tropical fruits where are you going to sell them? The market in the tropical regions is already filled with other producers.
South Portugal is better! You still have Madeira or Azores islands... they are truly beautiful and you can grow all king of tropicals there...  ;)

I love the southern part of Portugal, very similar to southern Cali. Cold ocean!

737
Citrus General Discussion / Re: Is this chlorosis? Can it be fixed?
« on: May 16, 2020, 05:12:40 PM »
A lot can change in three years. Micronutrient bioavailability is pH based, and is best within a narrow range.

If your soil has high buffering capacity (clayey or silty or organic matter) you could be too low, if the buffering capacity is low, you could be seeing high pH. Either way, a drier soil promotes extremes, though citrus don't typically favor wet feet.

You've correctly identified the symptoms, the next step is to determine the cause.

Low pH soils are often leached, so you may very well be seeing actual low micronurient presence.

You can foliar feed to remove the symptom, but the cure can't be assessed without more data.

You need an actual pH test.

738
How much do they charge for drops that are gnawed into a little bit?
Planning a late night sampling in the grove?

739
I've had about equal luck with my FL turp trees and my HD Manilas, actually better results from the turps.

My Kent and Keitt grafts have been standouts.  Time will tell if they are productive.

740
Citrus General Discussion / Re: Persian Lime tree - need advice
« on: May 15, 2020, 11:44:32 PM »
Interveinal cholorosis.
Not a big deal, mostly caused by low micro-nutrient bio-availability.

Many products help, but many require continued application.

Iron sulfate will show an immediate improvement, but the long-term solution is adding sulfur or some other slow-release acidifier.

741
GN is sold commercially here in CA.

It's pretty good at times, a dry mess at other times.

Good luck with the ongoing citrus issues in FL.

742
The more data, the better.

I noticed that this year the trees I have grafted on my kent and keitt seedlings have really taken off. Hopefully they will continue in this trend and become productive.

743
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Advice needed for white sapote
« on: May 15, 2020, 07:04:25 AM »
Hopefully not for too long, they get too big to cover in a couple years. They're also somewhat cold hardy.

744
It's not clear from the picture, either it was budded at the point where the trunk shoots sideways, or it's grafted above that at the bark scar. It could be an interstock even given the oddity.

Either way, I don't cleft growth before it hardens off, I do bud though, and will look for a spot where the wood is flat and the bark slips, that way I get good cambium contact.

745
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Advice needed for white sapote
« on: May 15, 2020, 06:53:58 AM »
I'd throw some shade cloth on top at that rate, fresh grafts dry out pretty easy.

746
How about Fruit Punch? Where does it come short?

Fruit punch supposedly has a window of perfection that lasts minutes, with fruit eaten outside of that window being inferior.

It's also inconsistent year-to-year based on all the reports.

Really look closely at the Keitt and Zill-80 seedlings if you're looking for something with commercial potential. Some of them have been highly regarded in this aspect.

747
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tamaraca Mango
« on: May 15, 2020, 12:55:16 AM »
I found a seedling of it at Exotica. It's apparently poly, and the sap smells similar to Kesar.

748
Citrus General Discussion / Re: Multigrafting question
« on: May 12, 2020, 02:45:13 AM »
Consider what the grafted branch will look like down the road. The common amateur mistakes are to graft far from the trunk and too high up, so that fruit produced by the branch are not a major part of the tree, and are too high up to pick.

To make a graft a major part of the tree, graft low and central.

Though cleft seems easy, I have equal to better luck with bark grafts.

749
Iron deficient/ high pH around the root zone.

There are other deficiencies evident, but fix the pH and you'll likely fix them as well.

750
Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What is this fruit?
« on: May 11, 2020, 08:31:19 PM »
Some kind of syzigium.

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