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Re: Top soil from City of Los Angeles.... safe to use?
« Reply #25 on: October 24, 2018, 06:48:06 AM »
smartdriver  -  I would never grow vegetables in iffy contaminated soil with lead etc in it?
Growing fruit trees in such soil is not nearly as perilous. I doubt that much of the "crap" ends up in the fruit.

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Re: Top soil from City of Los Angeles.... safe to use?
« Reply #26 on: October 24, 2018, 07:22:26 AM »
Just because 'some guy' says so isn't a real reason to do anything.
Check the data for LA compost yourself:
https://www.lacitysan.org/san/faces/home/portal/s-lsh-wwd/s-lsh-wwd-s/s-lsh-wwd-s-gw/s-lsh-wwd-s-gw-sta;jsessionid=gKClzcD1tR_tjv7w78SrUzg30q9XWsy_E78tNqKqmJb6rsa7mc4U!1511500448!727084434?_afrLoop=10738200133044499&_afrWindowMode=0&_afrWindowId=lanacion.com.ar;apw_exc_fcf=1540350000.0.1.n_2184390.gDoedE9_kIVq213Mwi32nOWX_n4q7kYjw3XObKzO3yM;apw_aac_0=1542937916.34.1.KG5fMjE4NDM5MCwxNTQyOTM3OTE2KQ.sCJLmRAQUbXZJ7qHtZNSmBQzWwdxlmt7WyT8FDNcx-8&_adf.ctrl-state=10kapfr3g9_1#!%40%40%3F_afrWindowId%3Dlanacion.com.ar%253Bapw_exc_fcf%253D1540350000.0.1.n_2184390.gDoedE9_kIVq213Mwi32nOWX_n4q7kYjw3XObKzO3yM%253Bapw_aac_0%253D1542937916.34.1.KG5fMjE4NDM5MCwxNTQyOTM3OTE2KQ.sCJLmRAQUbXZJ7qHtZNSmBQzWwdxlmt7WyT8FDNcx-8%26_afrLoop%3D10738200133044499%26_afrWindowMode%3D0%26_adf.ctrl-state%3D10kapfr3g9_5

The mushroom compost uses horse stable manure which has medications and cottonseed meal most of which is GMO and roundup ready. However, I figure composting takes care of most issues.
If you live in LA or most any city you've already accepted a highly polluted environmental legacy in soil and present in air.

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Re: Top soil from City of Los Angeles.... safe to use?
« Reply #27 on: October 25, 2018, 12:17:13 AM »
Thank you thank you.  For your advise!

I’m trying to use the soil for non edibles, but I think I may forget and plant some edibles lol. You tip is an eye opener!

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Re: Top soil from City of Los Angeles.... safe to use?
« Reply #28 on: October 25, 2018, 07:04:27 AM »
If this were my yard of dirt going into a wet winter season.  I would want to get roots in the ground and have a cover for the soil.   To accomplish this cheaply, quickly and easily I would plant a mix of cover crop seeds you can buy from most seed companies.  Get a mix of at least a few varieties, such as annual grass and legumes, dicots and monocots.  After it starts growing sprinkle some earthworm castings on it. The castings have eggs in the bag.  A little will go a long way  This will put life, carbon and nitrogen back into the soil.  In late spring when it starts to die back cover it all with your free L.A. compost then plant.

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Re: Top soil from City of Los Angeles.... safe to use?
« Reply #29 on: October 25, 2018, 12:14:00 PM »
Just because 'some guy' says so isn't a real reason to do anything.
Check the data for LA compost yourself:
https://www.lacitysan.org/san/faces/home/portal/s-lsh-wwd/s-lsh-wwd-s/s-lsh-wwd-s-gw/s-lsh-wwd-s-gw-sta;jsessionid=gKClzcD1tR_tjv7w78SrUzg30q9XWsy_E78tNqKqmJb6rsa7mc4U!1511500448!727084434?_afrLoop=10738200133044499&_afrWindowMode=0&_afrWindowId=lanacion.com.ar;apw_exc_fcf=1540350000.0.1.n_2184390.gDoedE9_kIVq213Mwi32nOWX_n4q7kYjw3XObKzO3yM;apw_aac_0=1542937916.34.1.KG5fMjE4NDM5MCwxNTQyOTM3OTE2KQ.sCJLmRAQUbXZJ7qHtZNSmBQzWwdxlmt7WyT8FDNcx-8&_adf.ctrl-state=10kapfr3g9_1#!%40%40%3F_afrWindowId%3Dlanacion.com.ar%253Bapw_exc_fcf%253D1540350000.0.1.n_2184390.gDoedE9_kIVq213Mwi32nOWX_n4q7kYjw3XObKzO3yM%253Bapw_aac_0%253D1542937916.34.1.KG5fMjE4NDM5MCwxNTQyOTM3OTE2KQ.sCJLmRAQUbXZJ7qHtZNSmBQzWwdxlmt7WyT8FDNcx-8%26_afrLoop%3D10738200133044499%26_afrWindowMode%3D0%26_adf.ctrl-state%3D10kapfr3g9_5

The mushroom compost uses horse stable manure which has medications and cottonseed meal most of which is GMO and roundup ready. However, I figure composting takes care of most issues.
If you live in LA or most any city you've already accepted a highly polluted environmental legacy in soil and present in air.
Sorry, forgot to mention that he worked at the Miramar land fill....
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Re: Top soil from City of Los Angeles.... safe to use?
« Reply #30 on: October 26, 2018, 05:09:51 AM »
Thank you again 🙏!

Looks like City of LA stuff is tested, but the compost and multiple I get are not filtered from trash so it’s less appealing to want to use for vegetable gardening as you can see in my photos if you open up to max resolution. There’s a lot of trash in there, especially plastic bags pieces. I’ve been wanting to go Griffith Park composting which is only 9 miles away, but I have a closer pickup site near by to save some time. And from the City of Sanitation link, the mulch giveaway site material come from Lopez Canyon Enviornmental Center.

Boyle Heights Mulch Giveaway Site
 850 N Mission Rd, Los Angeles, CA 90033

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https://compostingcouncil.org/participants/

City of Los Angeles, Bureau of Sanitation
Contact: John Hamilton
T: 818-834-5111
F: 818-834-5116
Email
2 Compost Manufacturing Facilities, 3 STA products
1 – Lopez Canyon Environmental Center
11950 Lopez Canyon Rd.
Lakeview Terrace, CA 91342
2 STA products – Compost and mulch

2 – Griffith Park Composting Facility
5400 Griffith Park Dr.
Los Angeles, CA 90027

**There are some lab results from Griffith Park compost at bottom of this post, but the results are more than 1 year ago, thank you “pineislander” for the link!

https://www.lacitysan.org/san/faces/home/portal/s-lsh-wwd/s-lsh-wwd-s/s-lsh-wwd-s-gw/s-lsh-wwd-s-gw-gpcf?_afrLoop=10913309291897147&_afrWindowMode=0&_afrWindowId=y0u3t17ux&_adf.ctrl-state=cq7kiua1h_568#!%40%40%3F_afrWindowId%3Dy0u3t17ux%26_afrLoop%3D10913309291897147%26_afrWindowMode%3D0%26_adf.ctrl-state%3Dcq7kiua1h_572

Just because 'some guy' says so isn't a real reason to do anything.
Check the data for LA compost yourself:
https://www.lacitysan.org/san/faces/home/portal/s-lsh-wwd/s-lsh-wwd-s/s-lsh-wwd-s-gw/s-lsh-wwd-s-gw-sta;jsessionid=gKClzcD1tR_tjv7w78SrUzg30q9XWsy_E78tNqKqmJb6rsa7mc4U!1511500448!727084434?_afrLoop=10738200133044499&_afrWindowMode=0&_afrWindowId=lanacion.com.ar;apw_exc_fcf=1540350000.0.1.n_2184390.gDoedE9_kIVq213Mwi32nOWX_n4q7kYjw3XObKzO3yM;apw_aac_0=1542937916.34.1.KG5fMjE4NDM5MCwxNTQyOTM3OTE2KQ.sCJLmRAQUbXZJ7qHtZNSmBQzWwdxlmt7WyT8FDNcx-8&_adf.ctrl-state=10kapfr3g9_1#!%40%40%3F_afrWindowId%3Dlanacion.com.ar%253Bapw_exc_fcf%253D1540350000.0.1.n_2184390.gDoedE9_kIVq213Mwi32nOWX_n4q7kYjw3XObKzO3yM%253Bapw_aac_0%253D1542937916.34.1.KG5fMjE4NDM5MCwxNTQyOTM3OTE2KQ.sCJLmRAQUbXZJ7qHtZNSmBQzWwdxlmt7WyT8FDNcx-8%26_afrLoop%3D10738200133044499%26_afrWindowMode%3D0%26_adf.ctrl-state%3D10kapfr3g9_5

The mushroom compost uses horse stable manure which has medications and cottonseed meal most of which is GMO and roundup ready. However, I figure composting takes care of most issues.
If you live in LA or most any city you've already accepted a highly polluted environmental legacy in soil and present in air.












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