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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Drought in the Amazon
« on: April 08, 2024, 10:37:23 AM »
Quote from: Mike T on April 08, 2024, 06:10:42 AM
La Nina will soon be here. Hotter seas means more water in the atmosphere and it all about where it falls. ENSO is the main one to look at but the southern annula mode, Indian Dipole and a few others are worth looking at due to global implications.

La Nina coming-maybe.  The latest NOAA statement gives it a 62% of developing by June-August.     

With this past seasons' El Nino, the odds of a more active hurricane season for Hawaii were heightened.  In fact, tropical storm activity turned out to be quiet.

Weather disasters are on the increase in the US and elsewhere, so I take exception to the notion that "everything will be alright".   Indeed, that's not true for the past, present or future!

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Drought in the Amazon
« on: April 07, 2024, 02:47:57 PM »
I hadn't heard about this recently.   In the past it's been said that climate change and deforestation are contributing to less rainfall in the Amazon. 

In Hawaii, winter rainfall has diminished somewhat on all islands over the past few decades. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Aggressive rambutan pruning
« on: March 24, 2024, 07:38:42 PM »
You don't have to sacrifice fruit high in the canopy if your harvest doubles as a pruning.  That's my new strategy with rambutan. 

For a heavy pruning, it seems to me that the ideal time would be prior to a wet season, if there is a typical time for this to occur at your location.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: What Would Happen If You Stopped Doing Maintenance?
« on: March 20, 2024, 12:11:20 AM »
It wouldn't work real well here at my location in Hawaii.  The horrible Guinea grass would spread, vines would climb to smother the fruit orchard and eventually giant albizia weed trees would take root, some day shading out everything.  Of course it would take several years to actually kill off the fruit trees.  The big ones such as artocarpus and durian would probably survive.   

That said, I just let the grass grow over the Spring/Summer then cut it back in the fall.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Seattle has fresh durian.
« on: March 17, 2024, 08:00:47 PM »
Quote from: SplorKeLZ on March 17, 2024, 02:13:58 PM
Quote from: FreeField on March 16, 2024, 01:23:34 PM
They are sent by airplane...not the most environmentally friendly fruit to eat...
definitely, but to be fair all tropical fruits are. Can’t wait for my trees to produce!!!

I'd like to hear a report on the fruit quality please.   You're growing durian in Seattle?  Good luck!  :D

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best Self Fertile Sapodilla
« on: March 10, 2024, 11:47:30 AM »
Quote from: brian on March 09, 2024, 09:46:11 PM
Quote from: BigIslandGrower on March 09, 2024, 09:13:42 PM
Alano could be a variety that is no longer in favor but it is definitely a self fertile tree with consistent, heavy production for me.

Why is Alano falling out of favor, if you don't mind me asking?  I was eyeing it as a compliment for my Tikal.  Is Butterscotch just replacing everything else?

This was just wild speculation on my part, based on the fact it's an older variety and I'm in Hawaii, away from developments in fruit culture found in Florida.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best Self Fertile Sapodilla
« on: March 09, 2024, 09:13:42 PM »
Alano could be a variety that is no longer in favor but it is definitely a self fertile tree with consistent, heavy production for me.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Langsat Defoliation
« on: March 09, 2024, 09:12:15 PM »
LangsatFL,

You could be right about a lack of fertilization.  On the recommendation of David, the nurseryman who sold me the tree 24 years ago, I stopped fertilizing for a couple years in an attempt to stimulate better fruit set.  After the huge crop in October I've returned to feeding the tree.  Hopefully it will respond favorably.

With the Longkong, it was a small, grafted tree when I purchased it.  Couldn't have been more than 2 years old I would think, possibly younger. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Langsat Defoliation
« on: March 09, 2024, 12:21:09 PM »
Here is my Longkong that was planted 5 years ago. 


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Langsat Defoliation
« on: March 09, 2024, 12:20:02 PM »
Here is my duku. Notice that it's mostly defoliating on the left side.  It's never been a tall thin tree.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Langsat Defoliation
« on: March 08, 2024, 11:01:31 PM »
Quote from: Bush2Beach on March 08, 2024, 12:46:19 PM
That is awesome! Who was selling grafted Duku 24 years ago?
 
Is your tree upright like the one photo'd or have you pruned it at all to have a wider canopy?

I don't think that upright form is the way to go for production or picking and trying to confirm my theory that I need to force them into a wider canopy with pruning , so the fruits can be shaded in huge clusters.

David Frenz of Hilo, Hawaii has been selling grafted fruit trees for at least 30 years.  I believe his source for the original duku budwood was none other than Bill Whitman of Florida. 

My tree is not upright, it has a wide canopy.  I also have a much younger longkong that's growing beautifully.  Too young for flowering just yet.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Langsat Defoliation
« on: March 07, 2024, 10:33:55 PM »
Quote from: LangsatFL on March 03, 2024, 08:00:20 PM
Thank you for your reply Big Island Grower; this leaf dropping is very worrisome to me because I am afraid that the tree will run out of energy and die.  It’s strange that your tree defoliated but not the other tree that you mentioned.  I wonder if this severe leaf drop will delay fruiting even more on this super slow species; my tree is a 15 year old seedling that has never flowered or fruited.  How long did your tree take to fruit?  Is it grafted?

My tree is now 24 years old.  It never produced much over the years, just a few fruits here and there. Until this year, when it had two substantial crops a few months apart!   The November crop was huge.  In addition to eating many fruits every day for about a month, I sold $800 worth to a fruit vendor.  It's a grafted duku langsat with thick skin and a bit of tartness to the flesh. 
It used to be such a beautiful tree with a dense, symmetrical canopy.  There does appear to be new growth at some of the branches.  Perhaps its comeback will be similar to the general growth pattern-quite slow.   

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Abiu finally producing
« on: February 27, 2024, 11:01:32 AM »
Quote from: brian on February 24, 2024, 05:51:54 PM
My seedling abiu has thousands of flower buds again.  Maybe this year it will actually set some fruits


Keep us posted.  I'm curious about this because there was one volunteer abiu seedling sprout in a corner of my orchard that flowered a lot for a few years but never set fruit.

Since there are a couple good grafted varieties  in the orchard I eventually cut this one down.  Grafted trees can produce at an early age, when still fairly small.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: How bad do marang and cempedak actually smell?
« on: February 27, 2024, 10:47:48 AM »
"Smell bad?" is a poorly worded question.   "Pungent aroma?" would be better.  I would say not really.   Durian and Mangifera Odorata?  Yes. 

Good luck fruiting any of these indoors. That would be impressive.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Langsat Defoliation
« on: February 27, 2024, 10:41:20 AM »
No, I haven't asked others about this.  It's not a common fruit tree growing in the area.  I do know one other person with a tree and he hasn't had any dieback recently.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: WTB: Green Sapote, grafted tree
« on: February 21, 2024, 05:12:36 PM »
They're difficult to graft.  There are two outstanding cultivars I've been exposed to on the Big Island.  One of them came from Frankie's Nursery on Oahu. 

As for me, I only have one small seedling planted.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Langsat Defoliation
« on: February 20, 2024, 07:50:59 PM »
About 1/3 of my Duku langsat defoliated this fall.  It's never happened before so I'm not sure what's the cause.  Still waiting to see if it will regrow or continue to die back, although it appears the former to some degree. 

Many years ago I picked off the corky bark from this tree and it hasn't returned.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Ross Sapote seeds Germination and Other questios
« on: February 20, 2024, 07:28:11 PM »
I don't believe they need to be cracked.  Volunteer seedlings have sprouted several times under my bearing tree from fallen fruits.

My understanding is also that seedlings should be fairly true to the parent tree.  Fruits need to be stem clipped and ripened indoors after they start turning yellow, otherwise the skin will split as they ripen on the vine and bugs will get into them.  They're the most creamy (best) when allowed to become very ripe.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Are black and white sapote worth it
« on: February 19, 2024, 08:38:42 PM »
Black Sapote-No.

White Sapote-If you can obtain a quality, grafted cultivar-Yes.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Jackfruit vs Cempedak
« on: November 21, 2023, 11:08:21 AM »
The Cempedek we had on Lindsay's durian tour several years ago was the absolute best.  Otherwise I agree with Steph. The Hybrids are the best of both worlds.  Jacks are such a mess to deal with. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: JoeHewitt!! Show us your place!
« on: November 21, 2023, 11:06:04 AM »
Quote from: Pneuma on October 30, 2023, 04:42:24 PM
Part 3 is out for all those jabo addicts !!
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what a special place congrats to Joe and his Team makings dreams happen

Link please?  I didn't see it in a search.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Not enough Durian Discussion
« on: January 04, 2023, 09:02:20 PM »
^ I believe that's rhizoctonia foliar blight.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cheribelle Atemoya
« on: December 05, 2022, 01:05:17 AM »
Quote from: Eggo on December 04, 2022, 10:44:59 PM
Quote from: spaugh on December 04, 2022, 08:34:16 PM
The cherilatta is not stand out flavor or texture.  Regular cherimoyas are better.

Depending on the occasion I like them both ways.  All my family prefers the firmer texture of an atemoya. I prefer the texture of an atemoya but for flavor I favor the much more intense and complex tastes of a cherimoya.

I like both textures, probably Atemoya more.  Agreed that a cherimoya is more flavorful.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cheribelle Atemoya
« on: December 04, 2022, 04:38:59 PM »
I heard about it from a local nurseryman, and found out a bit more today.  First, wrong name.  It's "Cherilatte".

Richard Painter on Pine Island crossed 4826 Red custard apple with Cherimoya. 

Apparently the main appeal is the red colored flesh rather than exceptional fruit quality.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Cheribelle Atemoya
« on: December 03, 2022, 11:23:50 PM »
Anyone have knowledge of this cultivar?   It's supposedly a red fleshed variety. 

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