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Citrus => Citrus General Discussion => Topic started by: Nikorasu972 on July 16, 2020, 11:53:19 PM
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Has anyone had any experience with rooting C35 cuttings? I've heard that they are hard to root and was just wondering if it was viable to order budwood to root and use as a rootstock since all other sources are out of my budget.
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C35 was the only trifolia hybrid that I could not root a cuttng of
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I find C35 hard to root & easy from seed. I have tried (with very limited success) to root c35. Seed on the other hand is easily sprouted, grown & hardened. Its a vigorous rootstock & gives graftable stock in one year.
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I find C35 hard to root & easy from seed. I have tried (with very limited success) to root c35. Seed on the other hand is easily sprouted, grown & hardened. Its a vigorous rootstock & gives graftable stock in one year.
Where did you buy your c35 seeds? I've seen them available on Lyn Citrus Seeds, but since they're sold in such high quantities it's too expensive for me.
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I did not buy seed. I gathered from an existing bearing tree. I plant each year from seed stock trees. There ate two reputable seed Cos, Lyn being one of them. As you stated they sell by the quart. I plant several hundred rootstocks of different varities but like you I do not want to buy a quart with 3000 seed in it. C35 is mature around Dec. 1. Ask in this forum and i am sure somone will help you out.
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It was a cinch to root with bottom heat.
Try it, what do you have to lose?
If it's difficult, then I should have no problems rooting other citrus, I may just try that with the next ccpp cuttings.
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I have some kind of rootstock left over from a Yosemite Gold I bought that the scion died on. I kind of forgot about it, and noticed it was fruiting this year. Might be c-35, I can't tell. I know c-35 is a pretty common rootstock.
(https://i.imgur.com/hsjZ9UP.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/GDYqwnU.jpg)
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you'll have rootstock seeds soon!
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Yup. Wondering if anybody can confirm this is c-35 or not visually. I guess when the fruit matures it will help to see.
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Here is a picture showing the structure of a C35 leaf.
https://chislettfarms.com.au/wp-content/uploads/2013/03/C-35+citrange+sml.pdf
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Thanks Millet. My tree definitely looks like the pictures in that PDF. I will see how the fruit comes out
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Brian, just for the information, crush a couple C35 leaves and tell us a description of the aroma, if any..
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I just crushed a few, they don't really have a strong distinctive smell like lemons, limes, and pummelo do. Hard to say. I also crushed a couple leaves of trifoliate orange seedlings and they have no smell at all.
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It was a cinch to root with bottom heat.
Try it, what do you have to lose?
If it's difficult, then I should have no problems rooting other citrus, I may just try that with the next ccpp cuttings.
The problem is that it costs more money for one attempt to grow c35 through cuttings than seeds, so if I mess up it will have cost me a more significant amount of money and I will have less chances.
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It was a cinch to root with bottom heat.
Do you think that I should still use a heating pad considering it's summer?
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I wouldn't bother, but if you have one, it probably wouldn't hurt.
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the fruit from this rootstock tree has begun to turn orange. Here is one I picked and cut open. It smells slightly odd for citrus but hard to describe. Juice tastes very sour and little else.
(https://i.imgur.com/xHPDsb2.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/6kh0D2h.jpg)
You think this is c-35? Or if not, any idea what it might be? The peel looks much thicker than the UCR pictures show for c-35 citrange: https://citrusvariety.ucr.edu/citrus/C35citrange.html
Anybody want rootstock seeds?
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Brian, does your trees leaves match the above C-35 leaf picture? Easer to determine from leaf than from fruit.
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Yes it looks very much like the picture in the PDF you posted. I am not sure how many rootstocks might look similar... but it seems likely to be c-35 to me.
(https://i.imgur.com/z6ECzDQ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/73IkBGR.jpg)
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I did not buy seed. I gathered from an existing bearing tree. I plant each year from seed stock trees. There ate two reputable seed Cos, Lyn being one of them. As you stated they sell by the quart. I plant several hundred rootstocks of different varities but like you I do not want to buy a quart with 3000 seed in it. C35 is mature around Dec. 1. Ask in this forum and i am sure somone will help you out.
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When C35 fruit is mature, should the seeds be planted right way, or stored in refrigerator and planted in next spring?
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I would plant them right away. Removing the seed's testa coating (outer coating) will result in a quicker sprouting.
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I would plant them right away. Removing the seed's testa coating (outer coating) will result in a quicker sprouting.
Thanks.
I have found some fruits on the half dead trees in the field. Will try them when the fruits turn yellow.
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I tried to root a lot of cuttings of C35. I was usually successful and I got very well growing plants with strong root system. I put the cuttings sometimes in loamy soil, sometimes in compost earth, placed a plastic bag over them and put them in a shadowy position or half shadow. I made most cuttings during spring and summer, but some in autumn (indoors). Success rate was really high and I am so impressed by the good development of my cuttings that I would never waste time in growing C35 from seed.
According to my (limited) experience C35 is one of the best growing rootstocks for potted plants (besides Swingle5Star and Swingle Citrumelo, better than Carrizzo).
I don't know why experiences in rooting C35 are so different.
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somebody mentioned in one of the C-35 threads that a way to identify C-35 from other trifoliates is the rate of "true vs off" of seedling appearance. I sprouted a tray of seedlings from the rootstock tree I suspect is C-35... I didn't get great germination as I wasn't taking very good care of these, but does anybody have any idea if this helps answer the "do I have c-35 here?" question?
(https://i.postimg.cc/WFTb1VGg/p3.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/WFTb1VGg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/BLpZ8zpy/p4.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/BLpZ8zpy)
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Photo of C-35 seedlings showing some of the variability to be expected. Approximately 15% of the seedlings are zygotic, although some of them may not be phenotypically distinct.
(https://i.postimg.cc/JswNYxQg/IMG-20180526-162659.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/JswNYxQg)