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Anyone know if these two are the same?

There are a few similar species in the genus that are also monkey pots.

Yes, that is why I put "Lecythis Pisonis" in the title. This one looks the best out of all the Monkey Pots.

Not in Florida but I have a small seedling going

 Nice! I have a seedling too, but much smaller.

Anyone growing these in Florida?

He might have sold out before your order. I had a similar opinion with a seller that returned my initial order. But I took it too personal. The people here tend to be more genuine. These items can sell fast and it's nothing personal.

Quote from: BayTropics on February 20, 2024, 09:35:39 AM

Quote from: FT.Dorking on February 16, 2024, 10:35:49 AM

Trimming my mammoth and dreams this weekend. There will be only limited amount. Will be shipping out Tuesday.
Pink Mammoth $7
Dream $5
Shipping usps small box $11

Frank.

Note * Frank is not friendly at all and never got back to me after he said he would give a shipping quote. Not a good trader.

Nope! It was just a few minutes after it was posted that I sent a DM. He had condescending tone. Not friendly. Most traders here are super nice and friendly. My message was "Hello, can you ship these cuttings first class since we are in the same state? Thank you" His response with no hello or anything it was, "there is first class it's ground advantage blah blah blah." It's like ok. This dude has issues. No biggie. There are plenty of other good traders here I've dealt with.

This forum is full of incredible resources and decades of experience. You'd have found someone with this cultivar already if it existed, but it seems like you're more dedicated to the legend of this online only fruit than the real world experience of members. That's the friction here.

As you explain, this cultivar is nowhere to be found, other than in marketing materials from Volcano Winery, that members report is of low quality, or from TopTropicals which has a storied history of falsifying cultivars. Who you going to believe?

I wish you luck finding it, and will leave it at that! Do report in this thread when you find it. 

TopTropicals has sold it. I was hoping someone here possibly has it. That is all. Not interested, "it's fake and just believe me even though I never seen it." lol Just move along, bud. It's not really that big of a deal.

I am telling it like it is, I know it can pop bubbles and ruin days but I am not here to sell you anything. Buy a bottle , please!! find out for yourself and report back!!
I don't know what I can add.
The Volcano Winery grows no grapes, they grow no jaboticaba. Their Jaboticaba wine has no taste of Jaboticaba and was literally the worst "wine" I have tried in my life.
I heard they used welch's grape juice and vodka to make their "wine" and after drinking it well that is what it tasted like.
You should really buy a bottle and find out for yourself. I went to the winery, bought the bottle,  it was a joke.

They pay $2 a pound for Jaboticaba.
The only Jabo in Hawaii for 99.9% of people is sold as "Murta" ,by the one existing giant wholesale fruit nursery, It is Sabara.

So this Pele's breath red jabo description and you trying to call me out is bullshit, but I refrained from name calling.

Look and Read all the flavor descriptions coming from people trying to sell you $100 germinated seed of tiny sour bird food, don't believe everything someone is trying to sell you on.

Quote from: BayTropics on February 18, 2024, 03:32:55 PM

Quote from: Bush2Beach on February 18, 2024, 01:52:57 PM

This is an insulting deceptive lie by top tropicals.

The Volcano winery is a joke, a joke!
straight up Welch's grape juice and no , they do not grow or sell Jaboticaba wine.
The description on top trop website is just total garbage.

Dude, are you trolling? LOOK & READ!

I get it! I just need prove. "I heard" does not cut it as far as proof. BTW, I messaged Top Tropicals about their Red Volcano. The rep told me, "They were grown from seed on Pine Island. They are faster growing and bit more cold hardy variety" They have not had these for sale for years. If I can pick one up for a few bucks I'm going to examine the leaves and compare with my Sabra and others ,let it grow, and taste and compare. Not just make assumptions from the "rumors I heard on the "internets."

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/XNvfpFL-26E

This winery is buying locally grown Jaboticaba in Hawaii with no mention of it being a special variety at all, more than likely most is Sabara. Think about it if it was some crazy rare special variety would you sell the fruit for $3.50 a pound when you can make at least that much per seed?

It appears they ran out of their own Volcano Red berries and they are contracting out.  😁

This is an insulting deceptive lie by top tropicals.

The Volcano winery is a joke, a joke!
straight up Welch's grape juice and no , they do not grow or sell Jaboticaba wine.
The description on top trop website is just total garbage.

Dude, are you trolling? LOOK & READ!

Quote from: BayTropics on February 17, 2024, 06:20:57 PM

Quote from: Jaboticaba45 on February 17, 2024, 06:04:02 PM

That’s just renaming of a red to get more sales. Not cool.

They say it's a rare red Jaboticaba from Hawaii. It could be red variation. Let's not call it "fake" until there is something concrete to prove it's fake.

It’s fake. Top tropical has a reputation of doing that. Just ask any OG grower here.


Also all true Jaboticabas are in the plinia genus.
Myrciaria is an incorrect nomenclature
Hope it sheds some light.

Evidence is required. These type of blanket claims of "fake" are not very scientific without physically examining what Top Tropicals is selling/shipping. BTW, consensus is not fact. Not defending Top Tropicals. As I purchased many mango trees from Top Tropicals. An Irwin mango tree I purchased from them turned out to be Mun Khun Si. A completely different fruit in every way. It does not mean the rest of the mango trees I received from Top Tropicals are fake. Besides the Irwin, all of the mango trees I have purchased from them have fruited and are as described.

Bottom line of making claims of "fake" or "real" without physically examining what is sold is not credible in any way. 

Pretty sure that's a wine, not a variety of Jaboticaba. I think they use regular red Jaboticaba to make it

No, it's a Hawaiian Jaboticaba variety used to mix with grapes to make wine.
 
Jaboticaba tree variety Volcano Red (La Vinotinto), Myrciaria


"This rare variety of Jaboticaba is used for production of Hawaiian wine Volcano Red. Hawaiians have long honored Pele, the fiery goddess of the volcano. We have created a wine to honor her tempestuous, passionate spirit. Volcano Red is a medium bodied red wine that blends both red and white grapes with the island’s exotic jaboticaba berries.
Red Jaboticaba Vine is also popular in Brazil as La Vinotinto.

This variety is more vigorous and faster growing than regular Jaboticaba. Leaves are slightly bigger. The plant can take light freeze once established, and short periods of waterlogging."

Please let me know. Thanks

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I have newly grafted trees, so still awaiting to confirm success.

Never mind. You never responded to any on my DM's. I got it from someone else.

Sure I did, and then I responded back. But no problem, glad you got what you need.

I think something is wrong with the message center with this website. I didn't get a response from several of my messages. No worries and thank you.

I told you how much it was and that I had to wait to see if the new grafts healed and you said ‘sounds good’ and asked about how long.

No worries man. All good.