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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Various seedlings for sale
« on: September 20, 2021, 01:49:34 AM »
PM'd you on FB

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Paw Paw Fruit Sale
« on: September 20, 2021, 01:44:20 AM »
Are these from Andy's orchard? Smalls are $7.50/lb.. and regulars are also $15/lb?? Why so much more for regulars..are they superior in quality? Shipped from other states you can get 5lbs for $60 shipped w/2day priority shipping..and even cheaper.

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I received my scions faster than expected.. which is generally a re-occurring theme with Kevin, maybe he pays off the postal service folk..

Scions were in excellent condition and I would definitely continue to do business with Kevin, we need more people like him in our small niche community.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Hunt for the best Surinam Cherry
« on: August 31, 2021, 08:24:22 PM »
Check this out @simon_grow, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RFcR74X7y6k apparently 20%+ brix is doable with pitangas.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pintangatuba pollination
« on: August 27, 2021, 01:01:48 AM »
I had one in the ground (about the size of a full 3 gallon plant) it flowered for a year, but never set fruit. I also thought it was a pollination issue, so I bought a second 3 gallon, put it the ground right next to the first one. Year 2 and the 1st one is not a 5-7 gallon plant and makes plenty of fruit, the smaller one has some fruit, but much less. I think you need a 5-7 gallon plant, or at least a 4-5 year old for consistent fruit set.

I just just cut off a successful air layer of the first plant today, it has been flowering/fruiting since spring. It's in a 3 gallon, but will need to grow into it. PM if anyone is interested.

That is awesome, I know airlayers and cuttings can be done but I haven't had luck.. care to share the details of what you did/hormones/medium/time span etc?

looking fwd to it

I used plain spagnum moss, no hormones. Started in early june and was just now ready for the chop, so about 3 months. I did 3 total air layers but only got 1 to take.

That's sweet!! Any other details, like the thickness of the branch you had success with? Were all the layers done on the same thickness or were there other factors as to why they perhaps failed.. also, did the branches you attempt to layer bloom more profusely?

Post a pic if you can, I've never seen proof of one (I believe you though). Seems like uniflora is more difficult to layer

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Cedar Bay Cherry
« on: August 27, 2021, 12:59:27 AM »
It defintely happens, not super often but not extremely rare either, post a pic though, I think smallest I've seen with blooms was 8" w/just two flower buds.. and they didn't hold fruit, would be funny if yours did... apparently they can be airlayered and propagated from cutting much easier than other eugenias.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pintangatuba pollination
« on: August 26, 2021, 03:21:15 PM »
What, how much, and how often, should we be feeding our pintangtubas to encourage them to bloom and set & hold fruit?

Paul M.
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I believe Adam likes using hollytone and sometimes chelated iron if needed, older plants can be heavier feeders, rain/water seems to help w/flowering. Setting fruit as stated earlier depends on good genetics and or cross pollination ..

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pintangatuba pollination
« on: August 26, 2021, 03:18:56 PM »
I've had 4 bushes growing for 7 years.  They are all 3-4 ft tall.  They all bloom regularly, but don't set any fruit.  They are pretty bushes, but a complete waste of space if the goal is fruit production.

Are they close together in proximity? Unless they are severely dehydrated I am very surprised to hear they aren't setting fruit..

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pintangatuba pollination
« on: August 25, 2021, 01:21:28 AM »
I had one in the ground (about the size of a full 3 gallon plant) it flowered for a year, but never set fruit. I also thought it was a pollination issue, so I bought a second 3 gallon, put it the ground right next to the first one. Year 2 and the 1st one is not a 5-7 gallon plant and makes plenty of fruit, the smaller one has some fruit, but much less. I think you need a 5-7 gallon plant, or at least a 4-5 year old for consistent fruit set.

I just just cut off a successful air layer of the first plant today, it has been flowering/fruiting since spring. It's in a 3 gallon, but will need to grow into it. PM if anyone is interested.

That is awesome, I know airlayers and cuttings can be done but I haven't had luck.. care to share the details of what you did/hormones/medium/time span etc?

looking fwd to it

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Thai Dwarf should fruit on new wood after a prune of more than 40% of branch length

Pakistani should fruit on new buds after a leaf strip - though won't fruit as aggressively as spring, sometimes Pakistani will fruit again on its own in the fall in warmer regions but so far leaf strip is the only way I've been able to force it - people here in socal do get fall crops with no intervention though..

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Gotcha, I suspect its the typical normal kind, looks beautiful, good job.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Rare fruit plants for sale
« on: August 18, 2021, 07:01:38 PM »
Anymore details on the 'Eugenia sp. Sweet purple fruits'?

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How long does it take Rainforest Plum to have ripe fruits from the time flowers open? Also is your tree the large fruit or normal fruit kind (same w/the leaves?). Lastly, what level of sun are you giving them?

Thanks.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Odds & Sods - Plants For Sale
« on: August 18, 2021, 01:45:23 PM »
Glad I got in on the fun before Kevin stopped shipping plants to CA, my Nelita has one flower on it @ just about 20" tall. I doubt it will set but still neat to see regardless, it clearly has similar genetics as the original.

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I think you’d have to know the grower and “bribe” them with fruity gifts or have them be very nice and sharing like many forum members , but I think every mango lover in CA would love to buy some sweet tart mango’s. I can’t imagine more than 100 pounds being harvested in all of Southern California though. Is there any commercial groves with anything but the Coachella Keitt’s in CA?

Not sure if its the same people but Wong Farms sells Valencia Pride and I think is in Coachella as well.. excellent quality fruits, I and a friend got a box this year from them. They also sell their own 'golden lady' but I didn't get to try that, they're always sold out.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pintangatuba pollination
« on: August 12, 2021, 11:09:38 AM »
I have a 3ft tall 3gal all by it's lonesome in a greenhouse. Put on at least 50 flowers. Ended up with about 10 fruits through hand pollination. Not the best ratio, but it is possible to fruit alone. Did better than I expected considering this is it's first real fruiting. Your problem just could just be maturity. 2ft is pretty small. Unless you like really sour fruit, I would give the plant another year or two to produce before buying another one. But I enjoy them and I think another plant would help production. So any of you in SoCal who aren't fans of the fruit and want to trade theirs for something, let me know.

This was my first real try of this fruit. Sour and slightly sweet with a tropical candy-like after taste. I really liked it. I can eat lemons raw, so sour doesn't bother me at all. Should make a great juice too. 
 


Maturity is sometimes the problem but often it just boils down to genetics of being self-fertile, there is literally research suggesting that they aren't self-fertile.. that proves what happens with a small sample-set. I had a 4ft one and it wasn't self-fertile. If you had another one you would have way better fruit-set than 10/50

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Looking to buy sugar apple fruit.
« on: August 11, 2021, 07:09:14 PM »
I think shipping to GA is relatively easy, there is a group on facebook called 'fruit 4 sale' and a reputable sellers there are selling sugar apple from FL!

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Looking forward to seeing some people graft up and taste the fruit of the garnet CORGs! Good stuff Kevin.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Forcing Surinam Cherry to fruit
« on: August 09, 2021, 01:14:55 AM »
I have documented before this under my 'advanced' section of eugenia notes - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mYXkqn80a0i-uXdy_kPy95PpGZJl91ofv88C0ar9Z5E/edit?usp=sharing

It works well on trees that have become lazy/unproductive, I've stunted/nearly killed a small tree (3gal) by overdoing it trying to get non-stop flowering.. on other eugenias leaf stripping sometimes can induce another set of crops, I know people have gotten 3 crops of COTRG here in socal by leaf stripping.

Thanks for sharing this, lots of good information.

My pleasure, btw, don't give up on airlayering the surinam, it is definitely possible, a bonsai artist I purchased my surinam bonsai from told me it was air layered and that he air layers surinams in Florida with sporadic success.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit party
« on: August 09, 2021, 01:04:18 AM »
Great meeting many of you yesterday, I know I had an absolute blast and it was worth the drive. Brad thanks again for your hospitality and kindness, also for convincing me to give that reed a try, absolutely delicious, we are going to bake some sourdough and devour the fruit you gave me with it.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Forcing Surinam Cherry to fruit
« on: August 06, 2021, 11:35:18 PM »
I have documented before this under my 'advanced' section of eugenia notes - https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1mYXkqn80a0i-uXdy_kPy95PpGZJl91ofv88C0ar9Z5E/edit?usp=sharing

It works well on trees that have become lazy/unproductive, I've stunted/nearly killed a small tree (3gal) by overdoing it trying to get non-stop flowering.. on other eugenias leaf stripping sometimes can induce another set of crops, I know people have gotten 3 crops of COTRG here in socal by leaf stripping.


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Not sure if I should be concerned or not


Mine peeled in a similar spot - ok well I lied, I assisted it a bit, but it looks nearly the same, similar trunk caliper too though yours look to have nicer shape. I wouldn't worry at all.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Fruit party
« on: August 06, 2021, 11:29:25 PM »
@spaugh, I'll pitch in for the lychees

I'll bring a bowl of Brewsters, most of the other fruit is still not ripe. These are picked standing on the top of a ladder with a fruit picker, maybe 20 feet up. If anyone wants me to bring miracle fruit let me know.


@marklee I would pay for some miracle fruit

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Growing Ice Cream Beans in Containers?
« on: August 05, 2021, 02:03:44 PM »
I felt so badly for my vanilla ice cream bean and put it into the ground from a 25 gallon pot and it is SO happy about it. It is flying! So happy I gave up on taking it with me from my current rental situation in a pot and slapped it in the ground, it's happy as a clam.

They airlayer relatively easily so you can make a copy when the time comes :)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best Fruit Trees/Plants for Containers
« on: August 03, 2021, 09:27:43 PM »
Funny you should ask!  I am having a greenhouse tour tomorrow for local Master Gardeners, and just did up a list for them!

Here is a partial list of what I am currently growing in pots (I took out the grasses, citrus, and small or non-fruiting things - like bougainvillea...).  Nothing is bigger than about 25-30 gallons. 

Most of these are or have been fruiting or blooming in my tropical greenhouse.

Cheers!
Carolyn


Wow, that's an amazing list, do you have any pictures/videos/youtube/instagram?

Cheers.

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