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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Best fruit trees for privacy (10b)
« on: September 02, 2020, 03:28:34 PM »
Quote from: TheVeggieProfessor on September 02, 2020, 11:55:44 AM
I have a full sun spot at my fence (13-14 ft gap between 2 white birds of paradise) and I'd like to plant a fruit tree. I'm looking for something that will offer privacy above the 6ft fence. I was going to plant a mango, but with weavels and iguanas going after my leaves... I'm not sure how consistent the privacy will be! Any ideas for fruit trees that would work for 10b (south Florida)? I've got squirrels too, but I think they will go after whatever fruit I grow - I'll see how I'm able to cope with it next summer when my mango fruits! Thanks a lot for your ideas.

My vote is mango or avocado. My backyard is on a canal, we have TONS of iguanas of all sizes, I haven’t had an issue with them bothering the leaves of either. Weevils will go after anything, but they haven’t impeded either in my yard. They are decimating my young mamey, ate their way through my black sapote, they also seem to love Barbados cherry, jabo and star fruit leaves. As far as fruit, seems to me the smaller the fruit, the less chance you have of getting any after the iguanas and squirrels (and birds) have had their fill. Good luck!

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: WTB: Zill M-4 scions or 3 gal tree
« on: September 01, 2020, 03:59:09 PM »
Quote from: Satya on September 01, 2020, 12:04:32 PM
Quote from: canesgirl821 on August 31, 2020, 09:18:05 PM
Quote from: Satya on August 31, 2020, 02:07:04 PM
have a 7-gal M4 for $60 but i’m more South than that, North Miami Beach...

Hi Satya, I’m interested in your M4, if still available.  :)
Hi Heather! Someone claimed it, if they don't show up to pick it up, it's yours :)

Hi Satya, Please do let me know if it becomes available again. Thanks & stay safe!  :)

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: WTB: Zill M-4 scions or 3 gal tree
« on: August 31, 2020, 09:18:05 PM »
Quote from: Satya on August 31, 2020, 02:07:04 PM
have a 7-gal M4 for $60 but i’m more South than that, North Miami Beach...

Hi Satya, I’m interested in your M4, if still available.  :)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Could refrigeration be the key to bringing out the coconut flavor in M-4
« on: August 22, 2020, 07:16:25 PM »
Agree with johnb51, I don’t refrigerate mangoes, to me it ruins them. Have tried on numerous occasions, to avoid them going bad, but once refrigerated I will only use them for smoothies.  Completely changes the flavor and not good for eating out of hand anymore IMO.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Tall, Tall Papayas - When Will They Ever Bloom?
« on: August 17, 2020, 03:11:17 PM »
Seconded, male.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Too Late To Start Sugar Apple Seeds?
« on: August 11, 2020, 10:06:58 PM »
Quote from: kh0110 on August 11, 2020, 01:50:17 PM
Quote from: canesgirl821 on August 11, 2020, 12:47:37 PM
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Thanks for this information. When filing the tip of the seeds, does it matter which end and can I file too much?

Once they’ve germinated, any suggestions on what medium to pot them in?

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The tip is where there is an opening, that's where the root will come out. And yes, you could file too much and scrape out the inside. Just file enough to remove the outer layer. If you see white material, you filed too much. :)

The medium to use for planting is up to you, SA is not picky but it prefers soil that is on the dry side. I personally use mostly coco coir even though it's a bit more work as you need to compensate every now and then with Cal/Mag/Iron. It's low Ph and that's what most plants prefer.

And Congrats for the nice fruit!

Thank you, will start filing and soaking tomorrow.  :D

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Too Late To Start Sugar Apple Seeds?
« on: August 11, 2020, 12:47:37 PM »
Quote from: kh0110 on August 09, 2020, 01:23:59 AM
Use a small nail file and remove a tiny bit off the tip of the seed, just a bit so humidity could seep in. Then soak in water overnight if seeds are fresh, longer if not. Paper towel wit ziploc and bottom heat is a combo that works wonder.

The real trick is the filing of the tip of the seeds and keep the paper towel WET. Keeping the paper moist is usually not enough and could even encourage mold if seeds are not properly cleaned. I find that keeping the paper dripping wet is best.

Thanks for this information. When filing the tip of the seeds, does it matter which end and can I file too much?

Once they’ve germinated, any suggestions on what medium to pot them in?

Just had the first sugar apple from my newly planted 3gal.  Fruit was on it when I got it, along with 3 others. I cut off the others to not stress the tree but left this one. Turns out it’s a red and the fruit was the best sugar apple  I’ve had. Excited to try to grow seedlings from this one.  :)








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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Pests, Diseases, and Nutritional Problems
« on: August 11, 2020, 12:36:37 PM »
Quote from: Guanabanus on August 11, 2020, 12:19:13 PM
Fruit Grower,
Spread Tiger-90 on the entire area of ground within twice the radius of the canopy, with enough so that the granules are practically touching each other, for the initial corrective dose.

For maintenance, spread 1-3 times as much Tiger-90 as you do fertilizer.

Results will probably not be apparent for a couple of months.

Har, You gave me similar advice a few months back, just a follow up question. How often would you suggest reapplying the Tiger 90 as follow up/maintenance after the initial dose?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help with newly planted jackfruit
« on: July 07, 2020, 05:35:49 PM »
Quote from: cbss_daviefl on July 07, 2020, 05:08:46 PM
It does appear a bit stressed to me. I see a reddish tint to the new growth, which like most signs, can mean a few different issues.  We had a week of very high temperatures with no rain. That stress would be my guess as to the cause.  The other causes are less likely, high pH, phosphorus deficiency, and poor nutrient uptake due to root issues but I am not sure 2 months is not long enough for any of these.  I would make sure it gets water every other day and not fertilize it again until it looks better or mid August.

Hi Brandon, Thanks for your input. It’s definitely stressed, those dark leaves (some reddish and/or brown) don’t grow, they’re reaching about an inch to inch and a half and falling off. All the new growth shows signs of stress right now.
I’ve been supplementing rain with irrigation, actually had been running the sprinklers every day it didn’t rain, but was recently admonished and told to cut back. If anything, I think too much water may be more likely, but I’m certainly no expect (hence my post).
Definitely not going to fertilize for a while, will make sure it’s watered every other day there’s no real rain, cross my fingers and hope it grows out of it. Otherwise, I’ll be back over there looking for another one!  ;D

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help with newly planted jackfruit
« on: July 07, 2020, 05:26:43 PM »
Quote from: 850FL on July 07, 2020, 11:15:39 AM
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I really don't see any downside to doing that. I put all kinds of rich soil and organic matter when I plant my trees, and they instantly start to do much better than before.

I’ve got to agree with this guy. My soil in this part of Fl is pretty much sand and clay so I always add a lot of composted organic matter mixed in a big hole with the sand. Never had a problem doing this, as long as minimal organic matter is touching the graft/ lower trunk.
You said you fertilized with fish emulsions and miracle grow. Miracle gro is one of my preferred ferts because it’s cheap and is pH balanced (around 6) as long as you don’t overfertilize with it.
However I HAVE most DEFINITELY burned plants with fish emulsions. I think that has a low pH around 4-5. I don’t often use this because it gives me annoying pH issues with small plants. I guess if u use that just use a light dose and I’d mix in some limestone with it as well (In a solution)

The way your leaves are dropping, I’d narrow the problem down to either wet roots, pH imbalance from the fish emulsions, or both

Thanks for your input. I thought as fertilizers go, the fish emulsion would be pretty benign, guess I have more reading to do.  Definitely won’t be giving it anything but water for a while to see how it goes. 

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help with newly planted jackfruit
« on: July 07, 2020, 11:10:08 AM »
Quote from: bsbullie on July 07, 2020, 10:54:57 AM
I have seen this in nursery setring, especially at Excalibur in the past, when the jackfruit get too much water or the pots are sitting in standing water.

If you have complete limerock base where a hole cannit even be dug, then yeas, rock must be removed and area backfield (very common in Western Parkland, Broward County).  Otherwise, no need to dig large and amend (many times that causes harm) for most trees.  There are exceptions such as some of the ultra tropicals like mangosteen.

Rob, thanks for your input. I’m in west Sunrise, soil is actually decent, lots of healthy looking black soil with some grey mixed in, but when digging you also pull up lots of rocks, from small ones to an occasional 8-10 inches in diameter. So there’s less native soil to go back into the hole. I don’t think it’s been sitting in water,.  Yes, we’ve had a lot of rain, but it’s on a high spot in the yard and a bit of a mound. Lawn guy did tell me to cut down on my irrigation, which I have, perhaps that’ll help.

I’m surprised no one thinks it’s fertilizer, with the off-color/browning, stunted leaves that fall off.  Guess that’s a good thing, I was concerned I may have burnt it.

Still wondering if there’s anything I can/should do to help it along. Is it just a waiting game to see if it pulls out of it?

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Help with newly planted jackfruit
« on: July 07, 2020, 10:52:01 AM »
Quote from: gnappi on July 07, 2020, 09:47:50 AM
I'm not saying this is your issue, but to give my Jaks (and all my tropical trees) a start, contrary to popular opinion I amended the soil in the oversize hole before planting. I haven't seen this exact issue, though leaf burn has happened on larger mature outer leaves.

I have a hard time believing that tropical plants will do better dumping them in crap sand and rock than in an amended hole. Sure EVENTUALLY they grow into the rock but at minimum the area directly around the tree seems to get more benefit from mulch, water and fertilizer in amended soil.

Sorry I didn’t mention that, I’m not the one who does the actual planting so I don’t think about it, but the soil was amended. My landscaper does the planting, he digs a hole about 3x the pot size and mixes in Kellogg organic garden soil with the native soil. He’s planted at least 20 trees for me over the years, I’ve never had an issue like this, usually everything thrives. Only mentioned rocky soil since usually people ask what kind of soil you have, so this is what I know about it.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Help with newly planted jackfruit
« on: July 07, 2020, 07:49:35 AM »
Excalibur Red planted about 2 months ago.  Putting out lots of new leaves, but recently the new growth leaves are an odd color, not forming correctly, falling off.  Planted in rocky Broward soil, full sun, I’m sure it’s not a watering issue. I’m thinking maybe fertilizer burn, I’ve applied small amounts of fish fertilizer and Miracle Gro (on advice from Lara Farms).
Would greatly appreciate guidance, thanks in advance!








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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Wanted: Large Indian variety mango trees, South Florida
« on: July 06, 2020, 08:25:25 PM »
Quote from: akumarum on July 06, 2020, 05:41:25 PM
Thank you Mr. Rob. I will go to Al's soon. Mr. Khan, I have sent you a message. Please respond when you get a chance. Thank you both.

I’ve sourced 4 trees from Sayyid; Mamey sapote, Super Hass Avocado, papaya and Barbados cherry (which just started to bloom  ;D). Always happy with his plants and pricing. If I had a place for it, I’d grab that Son Parí in a minute.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Do Carrie haters for the most part dislike Val carrie to?🤔
« on: July 05, 2020, 12:39:21 PM »
Quote from: bsbullie on July 05, 2020, 08:42:32 AM
Quote from: gnappi on July 05, 2020, 07:42:55 AM
Despise? Tell us how you really feel Rob! :-)

I had an east Indian which I grafted onto it the Carrie. The EI had that piney flavor I loved  butt the Carrie took over and killed the EI. :-(

Ok, maybe despise is a bit harsh but its in a group that I obviously would not grow for consumption and if gifted to me, it would be regifted.

Rob, I’d like to get my name added to your regift list ... just in case.  ;)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Are Any New Zill Mango Introductions Dwarfish or Very Compact Trees?
« on: July 03, 2020, 07:12:15 PM »
Quote from: johnb51 on July 03, 2020, 11:26:12 AM
Quote from: TonyinCC on July 03, 2020, 09:59:35 AM
Little Gem is compact as grown in my yard and has a nice natural shape. Very healthy tree. Late season,precocious, heavy bearing small-med fruit with a very small seed.  Slightly more vigorous than Pickering in my yard. Relatively little pruning needed.
What's the flavor profile?  I like TAF's description. 

(I might be starting my garden over with a 9000 sq. ft. lot with zero trees, full sun!  My wife says she won't allow me to plant 25 trees this time.  We have to keep 50% sod.
 Crazy, huh?  12 max, she says, and we'd have to include 2 guanabana trees, 2 avocado, and one sapodilla because she likes those.  She's allergic to mangos.  I'll have to convince her that jaboticaba is not a tree; it's a bush, right?  Right?  And banana and papaya plants are not trees.)

Bananas and papayas are definitely not trees, you should be able to slip those by no problem. Heck, papaya is just an herb.  :)

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Wanted: Large Indian variety mango trees, South Florida
« on: July 02, 2020, 10:25:46 AM »
Quote from: akumarum on July 02, 2020, 09:49:56 AM
Thank you Canesgirl. I called them and found Kesar but no Sonpari. I am trying Excalibur next.

My pleasure to assist. Thought you wanted Miami, but if you’re willing to go north, have you checked with Alex? It’s on his list:

https://www.tropicalacresfarms.com/trees-availability

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Bad bug
« on: July 01, 2020, 12:35:51 PM »
Quote from: Budtropicals on July 01, 2020, 09:10:40 AM
I thought those were little leaf notchers?

http://entnemdept.ufl.edu/creatures/orn/sri_lankan_weevil.htm

Hard to say.  After seeing the pic (from the above link shared in the previous post discussing this issue), I’ve actually see both in my yard, but I believe the vast majority of mine are Sri Lankan.


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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Wanted: Large Indian variety mango trees, South Florida
« on: July 01, 2020, 07:04:04 AM »
Quote from: akumarum on June 30, 2020, 10:41:10 PM
Hi, I am interested in buying large Indian variety mango trees (15 gallon or larger) such as Kesar, Neelam, Sonpari, Dusehri, etc. Can you please let me know which nurseries in South Miami may have these trees for sale? Thank you very much. Enjoy the mango season...

When I was at Lara Farms a few weeks ago I recall he had Kesar and maybe Sonpari, large bearing trees, not cheap. I’d call and ask him. Good luck.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Bad bug
« on: June 30, 2020, 09:42:22 PM »
Quote from: yoski on June 30, 2020, 06:15:53 PM
This guy (about 1/4 inch) is eating my Lychee and Mamey leaves:

Who is this and how do I get rid of them? Other than crushing them with my finger nails, I use "BioAdvanced" which is some multi-purpose bug & disease control. It lasts about 2 weeks, then I have to spray again. Anything more effective?

Been dealing with them for over 6 years.  At my house they have favorites, for sure, but ignore nothing. There was another thread a few weeks backs about these little monsters. I’ve been told imidacloprid drench will work for them. The key is to control the grubs, so even if you crush millions of them (and I have), there will be millions more unless you get to the grubs. Good luck.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Mango Reviews
« on: June 29, 2020, 12:51:23 PM »
Quote from: johnb51 on June 29, 2020, 12:10:30 PM
CARRIE!





I was fortunate to acquire some excellent specimens of this variety from our friend zands.  Personally I find it an excellent mango.  Fiberless, sweet, and juicy.  I don't understand why some mango lovers find it objectionable.  Maybe it's a genetic thing, or something like the aversion to papaya or cilantro.  (I like them both, too!)  Zands' tree is around 12 years old with a stout trunk, but it's only maybe ten feet tall.  This is a big plus for the variety.

The flavor is rich and categorized as "Indian Alphonso."  Spicy with pleasant resin nearer to the skin, which is extremely thin.  Deep orange, very soft flesh, as you can see.  The flavor might be described as "spicy canned peaches with a little resin."  I wish I could do a side-by-side comparison with Angie, which is considered a Carrie substitute or maybe even an improvement.  I'll try to get some Angies from my old house in the coming weeks.

I knew I liked you!  ;)

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Honeycrisp - Need scions or tree
« on: June 28, 2020, 04:17:43 PM »
Quote from: Viking Guy on June 28, 2020, 03:21:37 PM
We got the sad news yesterday that our 32 yr old, Michael, passed when he drowned in Knoxville. He is survived by his wife and 4 children.

In his will, he has made the demand that he is buried beneath a Honeycrisp Apple tree in a specified location in Tennessee.

I am in need of either a Honeycrisp Apple tree (bareroot or flushed), or Scion wood.

If anyone has some for sale or even trade, I'm going to need it asap.

Thank you.


So very sorry for your loss. May your family find peace in your time of grieving, and may he rest in eternal peace.

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Selling: Morado Avocado Tree (local only)
« on: June 27, 2020, 07:34:30 PM »
Quote from: johnb51 on June 27, 2020, 08:54:23 AM
Really nice tree, canesgirl.  Some "avocado person" should grab it.  I'd go for it if I weren't living in an apartment!

Thanks. If I still have it when you guys decide to get back into a house, I’ll make you a deal!  ;)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: How to make mango tree grow new braches
« on: June 27, 2020, 02:54:18 PM »
Quote from: pineislander on June 27, 2020, 02:32:52 PM
Energy of tree is going to fruit instead of branches. Weight of fruit is making branches droop down. Remove fruit for a couple of years and maybe it will put energy into growing tree instead of fruit then grow bigger. Once tree is bigger it can give you many more than 6-8 fruits.

Was going to say similar, but figured I’d leave it to someone with more expertise. Tree that small should be left to grow, not fruit. Buy mangoes for a few years, you’ll get lots of your own later!  :)

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Selling: Morado Avocado Tree (local only)
« on: June 27, 2020, 08:19:34 AM »
Morado avocado from Lara Farms. It’s a house variety, Julian describes it as a purple Simmonds.  Picked it up a few weeks ago, but since decided to put something else in the spot (I’m not an avocado person and already have one growing so don’t need two). $50 is what I paid for it. I’m in Sunrise, local pickup only, thank you.







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