Citrus: Tangerine, Lemon, Orange and Lime - plus Avos and others

[voyager]

I have 1 orange tree that was planted by the previous owner.
It seems to be a Valencia.
The fruit has tough and stringy section membranes, but makes delicious juice.
It is my juice tree.
I fill jars putting many into the freezer extending the juice season.

I planted 3 Avocados:  Sharwil, Ota, and Lamb Hass, giving almost year around Avo fruit:
Sharwil - Fall and winter; Ota - winter and spring; Lamb Hass -  summer.

There were two Tangerines put in by the previous owner:  one Honey not sure of the second but think it might be a Dancy.
I planted a second Honey and a Satsuma giving a total of 4 Tangerines.
I like tangerunes, especially Honey and Satsuma.

There were two Lemons planted by the previous owner: A small Meyer and a larger Eureka.
The Eureka was badly damaged by falling wind blown trees and died leaving just the Meyer.
I also added Tahitian and Kaffir Limes, and some non citrus: a Jaboticaba, a Longan and a Mulberry.
There were some dwarf Apple Bananas put in by the previous owner.
I added a planting of tall Apples.

I get fruit year around with loads in fall-winter-spring.   
I have to east fruit like mad in the fall-winter-spring to keep it from wasting.
The fallen fruit under the trees needs to be kept cleaned up to keep from drawing pigs or rats into our yard.
Rat control is a serious need, got 2 cats, and set poison bait boxes out when the avos begin ripening to keep them out of the trees.
All fruits need to be picked just before they begin to ripen, or the rats will climb the trees and gnaw on them.

I started out to discuss a few of the problems I've has with some.
This has gotten too big.
I'll address those in other threads at a later time.

Oops, Forgot Pineapples, just put 60+  in, mixed yellow and white.
 

[johnb51]

No mangos?

[voyager]

I love them, but our area is too wet.
Mangos make beautiful shade trees but don't, bear fruit here.
I won't waste the space they take up to experiment with them.

[Dmaxx69]

Aloha, I have to say you are misinformed about the mangoes. There are in fact several varieties that will keep flowers even if rainy. A close relative to the mango 'mangifera casturi' is our absolute best mango option here in puna, they sell them at gaia yoga nursery. There is another relative i havent been able to find yet in person that will do well ' mangifera lalijewo'.
Lastly at least 2 standard mango varieties are said to do well in our region: fairchild and nam doc mai. Really want to find that lalijewo tree, they are known as honey mangoes in se asia with green skin and bright orange not fibrous flesh amd incredibly sweet.
Happy growing

[voyager]

As far as I'm concerned, you are making the usual assumption that the rest of the world is like where they live.
The ares where I live is rated at a precipitation of 150'/yr.
We live on a clearing in a jungle.
The nursery we buy from supplies trees all over the island and is knowledgeable.
They wholesale many of the fruit trees sold by the businesses that do most of the selling to people.   
They say to not buy them.
They won't fruit here.
There are a few hundred residents in this subdivision.
I can find no one that grows and fruits any mangos around here.

You are the one that is misinformed.
 

[johnb51]

Don't get mad at someone who is just trying to be helpful especially when he starts his comment with "Aloha."  That's not the Hawaiian way.  Even I know that. (Are you from NYC?)  How about the other mangiferas he mentioned?

[voyager]

What makes you think I got mad?
I had explained the reasons I do not, or even try, to grow mangos.
Then, Dmaxx69 says that I am misinformed.
I simply responded to that, in turn, by letting him know that he was misinformed.

Here is why:
The nursery that grows the young trees does, on their website, lable some mango varieties as being wet tolerant.
My assumption is the website is where he gets his information.
As I said before, they tell me to not bother.
 
The island of Hawaii is the largest island in the U.S. as well as the archipelago.
It is about 4000 sqmi in area, about 92 mi. lonh X 76 mi. wide.
It may be a big island, but it is small.
It is dominated by 2ea. 13,000 ft.  mountains, OK volcanoes.
It is buffeted by nearly constant trade winds.
It is recognized as having 10 different micro climates, of the 14 potentials.
Many of those micro climates occur in more than just one location.
The island is covered with many small MCs.

Dmaxx69 gives his location as in Kea'au.
My guess is that he lives in HPP at about sea level, maybe further inland actually in Kea'au at a bit higher altitude.
Never the less, he is probably closely surrounded by relatively level land.

I live  near Pahoa in Leilani Estates, something in the range of 10 to 15 miles away at 750 ft - guessing, but probably higher than him.

Elevation and terrain have profound effects on local climates.
I also live on the windward side of the island, but near the top of a pali.
Rainfall is high here due to the trade winds and the pali.

Just saying you're on Big Island defines only that you are in a sub tropical area, not your local climate.

Not wanting to go into all the foregoing at the time my response to him was a bit terse.
I had other things to do and was in a hurry to get to them.

I may have snapped back at B.S.Bullie after his snotty response to my other post.
That does not mean that I harbor any bad feelings towards Dmaxx69.
 

[johnb51]

I visited your "Big Island" once many years ago.  That's fascinating about the diversity of microclimates.  Thanks for the long answer.