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Tropical Fruit => Tropical Fruit Discussion => Topic started by: spaugh on August 17, 2019, 02:02:14 PM
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Anyone seen these around? I read an article saying thry can get up to 3ft long. They called it "pura vida" grown at a farm in Miami. Other articles mentioned russel avocado but I think they are different? If anyone knows where I can buy a few scions of pura vida let me know.
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lol. think I would remember seeing that
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You should go visit their farm rob and grow some of these beauties.
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(http://serendibfruits.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/09/pura-vida-1240x2204.jpg)
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When hunting for new avocados, Campbell and Ledesma browse such outdoor markets in search of fruits with outstanding physical features. “We basically want trees that have unusual fruit—whether long, big, purple-skinned, without a seed, whatever,” Campbell explains.
If the local market lacks interesting fruits, Campbell and Ledesma may work a trick that has many times drawn great avocados out from hiding: They drive slowly through the dirt streets of a village and, using a bullhorn, invite all the locals to bring their homegrown avocados to a weekend fruit competition, at which the best avocado will win its owner a new bicycle, previously purchased at a local shop on the expedition’s expense account. A small crowd of locals, Campbell says, is almost sure to gather at the appointed place with samples of their backyard fruits.
The next step is tracing an interesting fruit back to the tree from which it was picked—an often challenging feat that may depend on the assistance of a local guide familiar with the region’s geography and its farmers. Even after the collector has pinpointed the location of a tree, another hurdle may be convincing its owner to allow branches to be cut. “They’re often worried that we’re trying to put them out of business or that they’ll lose their income if they give us any wood,” Campbell says. Sometimes, befriending locals in the village bar over several rounds of beer can do the trick. And to quell any lingering suspicions, Campbell usually provides written assurances of royalties on fruit sales should the tree ever become a cultivated commercial variety.
Through their many expeditions and negotiations, Campbell and Ledesma have brought some knockout avocados back to the Fairchild Garden. There is one they found in a backyard garden in Rivas, Nicaragua called the Pura Vida. The Pura Vida bears gourd-shaped fruits averaging 18 inches in length, with some growing as long as 3 feet. Then there’s the Juan Jose, an avocado Campbell and Ledesma found growing on a tree in Costa Rica and whose fruits contain no seed at all—just light, creamy flesh within a soft, green skin. Campbell and Ledesma dubbed another the “car wash avocado” after the rural outpost where they found the tree growing in Guatemala. Similarly, there are two “truck stop avocados,” each collected from a roadside truckers’ café in Guatemala.
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I have a Pura Vida tree. Scions should be available for sale in a few months.
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I have a Pura Vida tree. Scions should be available for sale in a few months.
Thanks Oscar. I will order some in spring.
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Oscar please put me down for PV Scions , I Belive Fairchild is the only place that has PV , I emailed them a while back asking to purchase a tree , seeds or scions , never herd from them .
Thanks Ed
I have a Wilson P Avocado from the mother tree in Perth Rico
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I have a Pura Vida tree. Scions should be available for sale in a few months.
Thanks for taking care of our thirst
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Oscar please put me down for PV Scions , I Belive Fairchild is the only place that has PV , I emailed them a while back asking to purchase a tree , seeds or scions , never herd from them .
Thanks Ed
I have a Wilson P Avocado from the mother tree in Perth Rico
No problem, i probably should have enough scions for all forum members interested. Just waiting for the tree to get a little bigger.
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Brad, wow, thanks for bringing this variety to my attention! It looks like a looooooong Pinkerton.
Hello Oscar, that’s great news! Please add me to the PV scion list. Thank you sir.
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Please include me on that list for scions.
Can you tell us about the taste?
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Please include me on that list for scions.
Can you tell us about the taste?
Tree has not fruited yet. Haven't gotten to taste them yet.
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Also interested in it’s seeds once they became available Oscar👍
Ed
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Also interested in it’s seeds once they became available Oscar👍
Ed
Sure, but ofcourse there might be some variation from the seed. Probably shape will be same, but don't know if they will be monster sized like the mother plant?
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Wow Amazing! Looks like I need my avo seedlings to hurry up for grafting
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I have a Pura Vida tree. Scions should be available for sale in a few months.
Thanks for taking care of our thirst
8) I liked the shape and size of these myself when i first saw a photo!
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When hunting for new avocados, Campbell and Ledesma browse such outdoor markets in search of fruits with outstanding physical features. “We basically want trees that have unusual fruit—whether long, big, purple-skinned, without a seed, whatever,” Campbell explains.
If the local market lacks interesting fruits, Campbell and Ledesma may work a trick that has many times drawn great avocados out from hiding: They drive slowly through the dirt streets of a village and, using a bullhorn, invite all the locals to bring their homegrown avocados to a weekend fruit competition, at which the best avocado will win its owner a new bicycle, previously purchased at a local shop on the expedition’s expense account. A small crowd of locals, Campbell says, is almost sure to gather at the appointed place with samples of their backyard fruits.
The next step is tracing an interesting fruit back to the tree from which it was picked—an often challenging feat that may depend on the assistance of a local guide familiar with the region’s geography and its farmers. Even after the collector has pinpointed the location of a tree, another hurdle may be convincing its owner to allow branches to be cut. “They’re often worried that we’re trying to put them out of business or that they’ll lose their income if they give us any wood,” Campbell says. Sometimes, befriending locals in the village bar over several rounds of beer can do the trick. And to quell any lingering suspicions, Campbell usually provides written assurances of royalties on fruit sales should the tree ever become a cultivated commercial variety.
Through their many expeditions and negotiations, Campbell and Ledesma have brought some knockout avocados back to the Fairchild Garden. There is one they found in a backyard garden in Rivas, Nicaragua called the Pura Vida. The Pura Vida bears gourd-shaped fruits averaging 18 inches in length, with some growing as long as 3 feet. Then there’s the Juan Jose, an avocado Campbell and Ledesma found growing on a tree in Costa Rica and whose fruits contain no seed at all—just light, creamy flesh within a soft, green skin. Campbell and Ledesma dubbed another the “car wash avocado” after the rural outpost where they found the tree growing in Guatemala. Similarly, there are two “truck stop avocados,” each collected from a roadside truckers’ café in Guatemala.
Is anyone growing the seedless “Juan Jose”? Wait...an avocado with NO seed?! Yes please!!!
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When hunting for new avocados, Campbell and Ledesma browse such outdoor markets in search of fruits with outstanding physical features. “We basically want trees that have unusual fruit—whether long, big, purple-skinned, without a seed, whatever,” Campbell explains.
If the local market lacks interesting fruits, Campbell and Ledesma may work a trick that has many times drawn great avocados out from hiding: They drive slowly through the dirt streets of a village and, using a bullhorn, invite all the locals to bring their homegrown avocados to a weekend fruit competition, at which the best avocado will win its owner a new bicycle, previously purchased at a local shop on the expedition’s expense account. A small crowd of locals, Campbell says, is almost sure to gather at the appointed place with samples of their backyard fruits.
The next step is tracing an interesting fruit back to the tree from which it was picked—an often challenging feat that may depend on the assistance of a local guide familiar with the region’s geography and its farmers. Even after the collector has pinpointed the location of a tree, another hurdle may be convincing its owner to allow branches to be cut. “They’re often worried that we’re trying to put them out of business or that they’ll lose their income if they give us any wood,” Campbell says. Sometimes, befriending locals in the village bar over several rounds of beer can do the trick. And to quell any lingering suspicions, Campbell usually provides written assurances of royalties on fruit sales should the tree ever become a cultivated commercial variety.
Through their many expeditions and negotiations, Campbell and Ledesma have brought some knockout avocados back to the Fairchild Garden. There is one they found in a backyard garden in Rivas, Nicaragua called the Pura Vida. The Pura Vida bears gourd-shaped fruits averaging 18 inches in length, with some growing as long as 3 feet. Then there’s the Juan Jose, an avocado Campbell and Ledesma found growing on a tree in Costa Rica and whose fruits contain no seed at all—just light, creamy flesh within a soft, green skin. Campbell and Ledesma dubbed another the “car wash avocado” after the rural outpost where they found the tree growing in Guatemala. Similarly, there are two “truck stop avocados,” each collected from a roadside truckers’ café in Guatemala.
Is anyone growing the seedless “Juan Jose”? Wait...an avocado with NO seed?! Yes please!!!
There was a cultivar in Brazil of avocado that was also seedless. I brought some scion wood back, but did not take. :'(
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Isn't this the same variety like the Vietnamese 034?
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I would love a scion as well:) Fascinating species! Thank you Oscar:):)
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Hi Oscar,
I would appreciate a scion and seed/pit(s), if you're able.
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Hi Oscar,
I would appreciate a scion and seed/pit(s), if you're able.
Should have scions available around mid November.
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Re: Pura Vida Avocado in S. Florida
« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2019, 06:28:43 PM »
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I have a Pura Vida tree. Scions should be available for sale in a few months.
Hello 👋 😊
I too would love to have some pura vida seed when yhey become available please 😊
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Re: Pura Vida Avocado in S. Florida
« Reply #5 on: August 17, 2019, 06:28:43 PM »
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I have a Pura Vida tree. Scions should be available for sale in a few months.
Hello 👋 😊
I too would love to have some pura vida seed when yhey become available please 😊
I will post here when the tree starts fruiting. I'm guessing it will be at least one more year
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I got 3 out of 4 trees to take with your scions oscar. Been babying them under grow lights inddors since its 100F and humidity is under 20% here.
I will have 1 or 2 trees for sale in a couple months if anyone in San Diego wants one. Don't have use for 3 of these trees.
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My neighbor has this tree.
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Holly guacamole. Sign me up for one of those Brad. Any word on how it tastes? Definitely a secondary consideration.😂
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I believe pura vida avocado was a sport from Russell avocado . I'm not willing to pay $47
box for avocados only to get a mutated avocado . The story about it can found https://miamifruit.org/products/longneck-avocado .
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Im not sure its a russell sport at least this is the info I found on it.
"Campbell and Ledesma have brought some knockout avocados back to the Fairchild Garden. There is one they found in a backyard garden in Rivas, Nicaragua called the Pura Vida."
No idea how it tastes, just growing it for the novalty.
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My mother is from Nicaragua and know good amount of rare fruit trees but never heard of pura vida avocado . Maybe I should try find some family members to see if they know it ?
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Ok, you can investigate it and make sure Dr Campbell isn't making this stuff up.
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Spaugh I pm you about Scion wood . I'm looking for some cultivars not easily found in Florida . I got one supposed to be Duke 7 🥑 once it starts fruiting I might know for sure . I do have super Hass 🥑 . I'm thinking about maybe make new hybrid in the future .
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I got 3 out of 4 trees to take with your scions oscar. Been babying them under grow lights inddors since its 100F and humidity is under 20% here.
I will have 1 or 2 trees for sale in a couple months if anyone in San Diego wants one. Don't have use for 3 of these trees.
Great to hear!
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Ok, you can investigate it and make sure Dr Campbell isn't making this stuff up.
Hahaha, you're funny Spaugh. You know that Campbell is not making this up! But it's quite possible that he or Noris Ledesma named it. It's a backyard tree, so doubt many people in Nicaragua know it.
The other story of Pura Vida being a seedling of Russell is the made up story. I'm guessing that came about because the avocado that Miami fruit company is selling is really a Russell, not a Pura Vida.
I hope my Pura Vida tree fruits soon, and will give taste report. It flowered already once but dropped the flowers. :'(
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I decided to delete it because I don't want make someone mad .
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I decided to delete it because I don't want make someone mad .
I'm glad you brought this topic up actually. Someone on FB groups, maybe you, is making same claims? I think Miami Fruit has misidentified their fruit. But let's see a photo that can prove they have the real deal? BTW the Pura Vida avocado is at least twice as long as the avocado in their photos, which i believe to be Russell's.
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I decided to delete it because I don't want make someone mad .
I'm glad you brought this topic up actually. Someone on FB groups, maybe you, is making same claims? I think Miami Fruit has misidentified their fruit. But let's see a photo that can prove they have the real deal? BTW the Pura Vida avocado is at least twice as long as the avocado in their photos, which i believe to be Russell's.
I really don't like Facebook only used it trying get some dragon fruit cuttings but they didn't respond until I posted pics all the cuttings I got from spaugh . Then never used it again 😂 🤣
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My neighbor has this tree. He told me he brought it over from Cuba. It currently has a lot of fruit on it. Next time I drop by I’ll get some photos. I grafted a couple of branches and they took.
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This tree is starting to sound like the blue java banana.
Tommy if you can get me a couple scions off your neighbors tree I would be happy to pay and try and grow that one out as well.
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Anyone seen these around? I read an article saying thry can get up to 3ft long. They called it "pura vida" grown at a farm in Miami. Other articles mentioned russel avocado but I think they are different? If anyone knows where I can buy a few scions of pura vida let me know.
(https://amp.insider.com/images/5d5682db4afbf91d821cda83-1920-1440.jpg)
Photo credit to @miamifruit. Www.miamifruit.org (http://Www.miamifruit.org)
They originally posted pictures of this that went viral on social media.
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Nice photo, that's the photo i've seen before. But i don't think that is a Pura Vida avocado. If it is, then it's a very small one. I'm guessing that is a Russel avocado. And i'm also guessing that is why people think it's a "seedling of Russell".
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Ok, did you get some pura vidas on your tree yet Oscar? Post some pics of this mythical tree and fruit for us please!
Here's my tree update after 1 year
(https://i.postimg.cc/5XLKp1jv/20210630-125821.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/5XLKp1jv)
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Pura vida avocado is a disappointed fruit. My grafted tree is 5 years old. 3 harvest and taste like Wilson but with some fibers at the bottom part.
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can you post a pic of the tree? I dont doubt the fruit is worthless at all.
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Ok, did you get some pura vidas on your tree yet Oscar? Post some pics of this mythical tree and fruit for us please!
Here's my tree update after 1 year
(https://i.postimg.cc/5XLKp1jv/20210630-125821.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/5XLKp1jv)
Glad you got it growing. My tree produced 2 fruits for first time, but one aborted. So there is only one fruit on the tree now, and the fruit is enlarging rapidly. I will post photos later.
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(https://i.postimg.cc/sMQxZtFr/20210703-094132.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/sMQxZtFr)
(https://i.postimg.cc/yJ0NLcYp/20210703-094109.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/yJ0NLcYp)
Sorry the harvest end in May. No avocado fruit pics
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Have not seen it personally, but they do grow near Miami. Maybe I'll pick one up this weekend:
http://serendibfruits.com/?show_page=Fruit_Page_Detail_Of_Fruit&helper=1&fruit_detail=AVOCADO_Persea_Americana&variety_detail=Pura_Vida (http://serendibfruits.com/?show_page=Fruit_Page_Detail_Of_Fruit&helper=1&fruit_detail=AVOCADO_Persea_Americana&variety_detail=Pura_Vida)
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Have not seen it personally, but they do grow near Miami. Maybe I'll pick one up this weekend:
http://serendibfruits.com/?show_page=Fruit_Page_Detail_Of_Fruit&helper=1&fruit_detail=AVOCADO_Persea_Americana&variety_detail=Pura_Vida (http://serendibfruits.com/?show_page=Fruit_Page_Detail_Of_Fruit&helper=1&fruit_detail=AVOCADO_Persea_Americana&variety_detail=Pura_Vida)
I don't think the avocado in the photo is really Pura Vida.
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Looks like. You can see fibers at the bottom. Ken Love
claims that Hawaii have the biggest avocado collection in the world ?
Poor Lol . Colombia germoplasm is one of the biggest. Ask Fairchild garden. Or better google it in case didn't answer your email.
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Looks like. You can see fibers at the bottom. Ken Love
claims that Hawaii have the biggest avocado collection in the world ?
Poor Lol . Colombia germoplasm is one of the biggest. Ask Fairchild garden. Or better google it in case didn't answer your email.
This has been discussed before in other threads. The avocado in that link is probably Russell. Fiber on the bottom is not enough to identify a cultivar as many can have that. The Pura Vida has a much longer neck than that, up to 3 feet long. The photo in this link looks like same fruit that was advertised in Miami Fruit.
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The foliage is quite unique in shape, reminds me of the Catalina rounder leaves.
(https://i.postimg.cc/yJjsTXr7/IMG-2320.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/yJjsTXr7)
(https://i.postimg.cc/cg5Wp1Sj/IMG-2321.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/cg5Wp1Sj)
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The leaf color on yours looks much different than mine.
The dark leaves in the picture are Hass and the light colored leaves are Pura Vida.
(https://i.postimg.cc/9DPY1gjz/BC770-C8-F-2-B68-4610-A4-A2-3-C420-CF99330.png) (https://postimg.cc/9DPY1gjz)
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I toped mine so all my leaves are dark, I have no new leaves but your are rounder like mine, just lighter.
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Here is my Pura Vida tree, and 2 consecutive shots of a developing fruit on it right now. There were 2 fruits on it and one of them aborted.
(https://i.postimg.cc/Whjc73Gd/Avocado-Pura-Vida-Tree.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/Whjc73Gd)
(https://i.postimg.cc/T56FQ7Wz/Avocado-Pura-Vida-Fruit-setting.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/T56FQ7Wz)
(https://i.postimg.cc/HcGhsZ3r/Avocado-Pura-Vida-Developing.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/HcGhsZ3r)
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Poor production 2022
(https://i.postimg.cc/30vqfPX8/20220322-123632.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/30vqfPX8)
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Oscar, your tree is huge, how old is it?
Nice looking fruits.
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Years ago, Ledesma gave me a few scions, I grafted them but they did not take, which was strange since, another variety grafted well, and Avos are usually easy to graft. sure would like to get a tree, now that I am living in Fla.
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Oscar, your tree is huge, how old is it?
Nice looking fruits.
5 years old.
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Only 3 avocados
(https://i.postimg.cc/GBkj3H9v/20220415-161142.jpg) (https://postimg.cc/GBkj3H9v)