Only a couple of my trees have leaves, and when I say leaves, I mean one, tiny, little half leaf, probably not even enough for an appetizer for a caterpillar...Not sure how the trees without leaves will find enough chlorophyll to stimulate any kind growth? I think the best route for the ones without leaves is to graft onto myrica Californica, which I will be doing. I also believe this is how the guy from Calmei got his first tree going. I have a few extra myrica californica in 1 gallon pots if anyone needs some, local pick up only in Fountain Valley.