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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Cantaloupe results?
« on: November 03, 2021, 06:02:14 AM »
What does "SWC" cantaloupe stand for ?
What does "SWC" cantaloupe stand for ?
SeaWalnut Cantaloupe. Seawalnut used to be an active forum member.
Hi there, that's a funny coincidence, however, in this case, "SWC" stands for Self Watering Container, and not the former forum member.  Double bucket self watering system takes too long to type out, I thought SWC was a recognized acronym, sorry about that  :P

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Re: Cantaloupe results?
« on: October 25, 2021, 11:58:00 AM »
Unfortunately the third plant with the deisred un-netted fruit died shortly after I posted.  We left the fruit on the vine just to see if it would ripen.  It remained pretty much the same color, with a little flush, and this weekend rolled off the dead vine.  We cut it open.  It had mild cantaloupe flavor, but wasn't sweet.  Until next year!

Hopefully, others who tried growing this can chime in?  Did you all have any luck?
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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Holy Sh*t! How NOT to Trim a Mango Tree
« on: October 12, 2021, 04:12:53 PM »
My parents' gardener did this to all their mulberry and fruit trees last year, they can't reach any fruit now, it's all for the crows  :( ::)

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Tropical Fruit Buy, Sell & Trade / Re: Saramuyo seeds for sale
« on: September 29, 2021, 06:20:40 PM »
PM sent

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / Cantaloupe results?
« on: September 28, 2021, 06:23:30 PM »
Hi there:
Did anyone else here receive the cucumis cantaloupensis seeds from the now-banned Romanian user?  That user sent me a very nice letter with the seeds meticulously organized last year.  I have very little space and never grew any sort of melon other than pickling cucumbers.  So, I've really no idea what I'm doing here both in terms of growing and knowledge of this fruit, that's the fine print  ;D

We grew a total of five plants:  one in a double-bucket self-watering system, two in a 22 gallon grow bag, and 2 in the dirt.  The two in the grow bag had no fruit, and the remaining three plants had one fruit each. 

The SWC cantaloupe grew to a 7x5 inch ellipse, and days before full ripeness, it split!  >:(  Despite this, I went ahead and tried it.  It had a nice cantaloupe aroma, the meat was dry and mealy, a mild sweetness.  This growing method was a total experiment and a fun try.  Will try it again, and probably tweak the fertilizer a bit.

One of the plants in dirt has a small fruit that needs probably another 2 weeks to ripen, it's small, about a 4" diameter water-balloon shape - this is the one we're all waiting for because it has no netting on the fruit (apparently important).  According to this now former cantaloupe expert, the netting means hybridization, which is something we are looking to avoid.  Okay then! :)

The other one turned color to almost ripe, and while I took pictures, it fell off the vine.  It took only two days to turn fully yellow (including the ribs), so we opened it up.  It was juicier than the SWC cantaloupe, texture was sort of like a plantain/banana and not silky like what we are used to here for honeydew or cantaloupes.  Aroma was pretty strong.  Flavor was good, also mildly sweet, actually, pretty refreshing especially after chilling.  I like these with a little salt.  I also tried a bit of sugar as suggested by the user, it didn't really do much for me.  Many of the seeds had already begun to germinate inside the watermelon, that was interesting to see!

Will try growing again next year, with some tweaks to the bucket system, and try to find other in-ground spots.  Will report back once the third fruit ripens, hopefully, this time without issue!

Very curious to hear if others here had any luck with these cantaloupes :)
















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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Saramuyos; cherimoya killer
« on: September 13, 2021, 12:34:19 PM »
I hand pollinate all my annonas, can they set fruits on their own? Yes but to increase yield you want to HP. Saramuyos are compatible to all those annonas you mention,
Oh, this is cool, I'm going to search this forum for more info.  Relatives of mine have a couple unknown cherimoya trees in their yard but fruit production is very low, they are very tall trees and we can't hand pollinate sadly.  We're also in OC. 

I have a couple 2 year old seedlings that I am growing from seeds of one of the trees, maybe I can try to graft a saramuyo onto one!  The one actually has a small brank, maybe I can leave one branch as cherimoya, and other as saramuyo?  Is this possible?  I've seen that other fruit trees can do this, like citrus and loquats.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pineapple thread
« on: August 17, 2021, 10:47:44 AM »
Can a young 4-6 months old pineapple plant growing from slip or twist top be bare-rooted?  I ask this because somehow some clover got into the pot and it keeps coming back since I can't get all the roots out.  The pineapples that have this are due for transplant now, roots sticking out the bottom :)  They seem pretty hardy but I wanted to check first before doing this.  Thanks.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pineapple thread
« on: August 08, 2021, 07:52:26 AM »
I do wish I had room for a greenhouse, but until I relocate somewhere, outdoors it is.  I might take a few of the uniquer varieties indoors.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pineapple thread
« on: August 07, 2021, 04:49:53 PM »
I missed that, despite having read this thread dozens of times.  Looks like time of year doesn't matter.  I have a project for next weekend then :)

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pineapple thread
« on: August 07, 2021, 11:29:04 AM »
When would you all recommend up-potting pineapples?  Most of mine are either twist offs from costco or kauai sugarloaf in small pots (<1 gal) that started various times in the last 12 months.  I have a few slips from Brad, too.  I'm located coastal southern california.
Thanks :)

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Lemon cucumber?  Leaves seem too rounded though.  Hmm.

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I hope UCR gets it someday so I can grow in So Cal  ;D

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Pineapple thread
« on: July 07, 2021, 02:49:27 PM »
I kept one of my pineapples in a grow bag and inside a ceramic pot on the patio over winter.  I saw something peaking up from the inside, and upon investigation learned that there isn't.. mushroom.. to grow. 

Laugh.  It's funny.   :P





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Recipes / Re: citrus blossom water
« on: July 06, 2021, 08:22:03 PM »
For anyone who ends up here through a search engine: I ended up using only blossoms.  Painstaking process.  Interesting aroma.

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After reading the article from dmwong93, the research paper showed a chart with Peluche Brix and it showed that this value increased after the fruit was picked and tasted a few days later.
Relatives of mine have a random loquat tree in their yard (grew from seed we think), and I am simply confirming that they do get sweeter if picked and left a few days, usually when they begin to look ugly.

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Recipes / citrus blossom water
« on: June 24, 2021, 11:55:50 AM »
Anyone know if I can use the entire blossom to distill citrus blossom water, or, do I need to use only the petals?  I have a citrus root stock that I haven't had a chance to graft to yet, and it has quite a few blooms, might as well make some for fun.  ;D  Thanks.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Can I put something here?
« on: June 10, 2021, 11:22:28 AM »
40s shouldn’t be much of a problem with pineapples. Most of mine survived 25 alright with some burn but they shouldn’t  burn in the 40s. I’m sure that nook would offer protection anyway.
Unfortunately, mine did this winter.  Pic is after I removed a bunch of fully browned lower leaves.


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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Can I put something here?
« on: June 09, 2021, 01:35:43 PM »
Hmm, I have several pineapples already in pots and may do this, thanks.  The concern is that they don't look nice as a result of the cold - my area of so cal, temps get to the low 40s for several weeks in a row during winter.  All my outdoor ones survived but look like crap.

pineapple guava definitely a possibility, thank you.  I may try the vine just to ease my curiosity if it can work.  This is actually HOA maintained, so, perhaps they'll handle the vine accordingly  :blank:

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Small fruit trees for shaded spaces
« on: June 08, 2021, 09:23:49 PM »
I read into this a while back and believe coffee, blackberry jam fruit, achacha and certain jaboticaba migh do fine in some shade like you describe.

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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Re: Can I put something here?
« on: June 05, 2021, 04:59:48 PM »
Bovine421, thanks for the suggestions.  The space with the water regulator won't fit the trees you suggested, it's less than 2ft wide by 3ft long, and they would interfere with access to the house.  Attached a better image showing mid-day sun, it's the front entrance to my house.

Shane: I appreciate the advice on making it something expendable, totally didn't think about that, and the regulator will likely need to be replaced in a few years.  Why wouldn't you put in a vine?  I was considering passiflora because of the pretty flowers. 

Blueberry is an interesting idea, because the area used to be generic so-cal hedge that was full of bugs and disease.. see picture from January.  I have three blueberry bushes in pots at the top of the entrance stairs, to make a "privacy" screen from my neighbor's house, but the bushes haven't grown much at all.  The january photo was taken midday, funny how much my neighbor's house shades the area.  Blackberry jam fruit plant maybe?  Or just give up and do something non-edible, hmm.




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Tropical Fruit Discussion / Can I put something here?
« on: June 04, 2021, 03:54:01 PM »
This small section in my front yard gets full sun from about noon through sunset, it faces south, gets pretty warm from the wall.  Can some tropical fruiting plant fit in such a small space where the water regulator is?  I was thinking some sort of passiflora or maybe kiwi?  Better ideas?  I would also like to put something on the other side of the pillar inside the gate, similar size, but gets more shade due to the pillar blocking sun as it sets.

Thank you for your thoughts.




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Update - do not use "coflex" / rubber-stretch-gauze for this!   after a few days the tanglefoot was absorbed into the gauze material, causing it to lose stickiness and unwind, and the tanglefoot soaked through to the bark.  So now I have direct tanglefoot on all my tree trunks.  I guess I am now "all in" on this experiment.
Oh no :(  Can you remove the tanglefoot from the bark?  i did a quick search, seems like mineral spirits or other degreasers would work, but I'd be concerned about it hurting the tree.

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If you are worried about pine or any other mulch just pile it up a while and let it cook and rot one rainy season.
This video discusses a simple bucket test on fresh chips which I haven't tried.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fYYZuNjnvbk
Fun video!  I always see instructions and videos describing the C:N ratio.. how exactly do they calculate this, and what unit of measurement (volume/weight) is used?

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Right on, thanks!  I hope to try grafting an Anna apple next winter, so I'll have a matching pair of these low-chill apples :)

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Temperate Fruit Discussion / which buds on apple graft to remove?
« on: May 12, 2021, 11:22:56 AM »
Hi!

First time grafter.  I tried apple grafting in February, a dorset golden apple to m26 rootstock.  I couldn't get the cuts to be even with the recommended "whip n tongue", so I elected to put the specimens on my cutting board with a sharp kitchen knife and did a cleft graft.

Pictured is the second of two grafts.  This one has four buds now developing.. should I leave all four, or clean up to just one?  The first attempt has only one bud that now has a nice 4" stem sticking out (not pictured).

Thanks for the help :)


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