The Tropical Fruit Forum

The shriveled leaves looks to me like root-knot nematode infestation. If so, the plant is likely a goner by the time it gets to that stage, based on mt experience.  It may be possible to save it with quick action, but don't get your hopes up.

Just to be clear, I am not all for locals only and I do not want a special link for only locals, and I no longer even advocate for splitting the board.  I think it would be a convenience for all members to know at a glance the location of seeds being offered, without ever having to actually ask. A small icon column in front of the posts column would accomplish that quickly and effectively.

As far as not necessary or particularly useful, I strongly disagree. The first column that is there right now, with the little document icons, that truly isnot necessary or particularly useful, IMO, and if that column contained a country code instead, then that would be particularly useful, and not just to me, and not just to locals.

Adding the location to the title seems easier, but I was hoping to see a way that the 'voluntary compliance problem' could be circumvented, and extra work for the moderators thus avoided also. Let's face it, if it entails continual and ongoing effort to keep in place, the idea is not likely to fly. It needs to be completely automated.

To utilize the functionality of an existing mod, it would only take a few minutes for the maintainers to put it into place, and its done.

I really would like to see that happen.



The 'Custom Form Mod' might fill the bill:

"these forms are essentially a structured way of allowing your users to submit posts to certain boards, meaning that you can get them to enter certain information into a form and then you can chose how you want that information to be presented within the final outputted post."

https://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=1279


AS can be seen in this test image, 'required fields' is a settable parameter. 

https://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?action=download;mod=1279;id=89990;image




Instead of ISO codes, maybe flagatars could be stirred into the mix:

https://custom.simplemachines.org/mods/index.php?mod=1729



I'm just poking around, maybe grasping at straws, the problem is thatI'm unfamiliar with the software and yet trying to see a way this could easily be done with the existing tools at hand.

Maybe it simply starts at the profile page - add one 'required' field, now everybody has to update profile on login and select a country code, in order to proceed.



When one registers to the site, they have to provide a user name and passwaord, and an email address, would it be so intrusive that they also have to provide a country of residence?


It may not be the ideal solution, but...


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I'm hoping that one of the moderators will see value in the idea and submit a feature request to admin. If admin doesn't like it, it ain't gonna happen, no matter how easy it might be to implement. In that case there's not a lot we can do about it.


If there's no downloadable mod that can do the job, hell, I'd be willing to roll up my sleeves and write one myself.  That is how much I believe in the idea.

Thanks for your input fyliu.  I thought about the finer designation you mention, but I decided to not mention it just to keep things simple at first. Just the country code by itself would be a huge boon I think, and I don't want to gum up the works with too much detail at the outset. The first hurdle is the big one, refinements can always follow later.

As far as the actual coding, I know very little about SMF and how the form submit function can be tweaked, but I will look into it. Where there's a will there's a way.

stuartdaly88 makes a good point, when people do not follow the rules as they are, then further refining the rules is futile, and when moderators do not chastise them for incorrect posting, they have less incentive for doing right. Indeed, when there is no penalty for breaking rules, then people will generally tend to disregard them.

I also like the idea that buy/sell/trade for all edibles (Citrus, tropical, temperate, veg and herb) be lumped together, then subdivided by domestic & international, but that would change the structure of the entire site, so would likely not be worth the trouble.



Well I'm dismayed that this thread has lost traction and appears to be dead in the water, but I have one last idea to interject:



I notice that the buy/sell page has two columns of icons in front of the column of posts. These seem quite superfluous to me. I'm not finding any documentation on these, but the first column seems to show an icon which indicates the type of file in the link, and they seem to be all the same - the links all point to document or text type of file.  Granted, there is a different icon for a one-page, two-page or three-page document, but that information can be surmised easily just by the number of replies. 

The second column, I'm not even sure what those icons signify, and I'm not sure which of the two columns is more un-necessary. Chances are that one of them could be eliminated and nobody would miss it, and it could then be repurposed. Even if that were not the case, it looks like there would be space enough to simply add a third column.  In any case, the new column would contain a simple iso-2 country code, and most folks are already familiar with these codes, such as US, CA, MX, FR, BE, LU, DE, PL etcetera.


The official codes are listed here:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ISO_3166-1_alpha-2



So this change would be simple to implement, would not change the structure of the site, and would be beneficial to everyone.  Instead of just domestic vs international differentiation, everybody everywhere could instantly see the location of the plant part at offer or at request, without ever having to click the link and load the corresponding page, which may or may not indicate that location.


There would have to be a hard rule coded: a listing for buy/sell/trade would not and will not post without this required field being filled.


Recently there was a mandate applied that all sales must include the price, and that is a good thing, but this rule requires constant moderation to assure compliance.

With a hard rule for country code, virtually no moderation would be needed. The form will not submit without it.



This idea to me seems beyond reproach, but I'm certainly interested in opinions, pro and con.

Thanks for your time, over and out.

This is a capital idea and I'm all for it.

On the one hand, if I'm looking for a particular species, I will click every mention of it for sale, often to find that the seller is on the other side of the planet, and chances are that I do not want to pay 15 dollars for the shipment of several seeds, do not want to wait 3 weeks for them to arrive, and do not want to see them destroyed by rough handling or by customs.

Both of the latter have befallen me here.


This also would work in reverse - I could post seeds for sale and not be bothered by requests to ship them over seas, and bothered by having to politely decline such requests and explain my reasoning.

I'm hoping more people will speak their mind about this, I think it would be a big improvement.  It would save wasted time and wasted money.

I'm also curious to see if there might be any dissenting views. I cannot think of any downside to it.

Supposedly the leaves of ambarella are good to eat, either raw in salad, or cooked with rice or so.  They are said to have a unique flavor but I have yet to try it. May be worth your consideration.

There are not many fruits remaining on the tree, so I will be closing this sale in one week from today.

Just a heads-up for any last-minute buyers. thanks

vigorous specimen producing much fruit, this tree is a monster.
golfball sized fruit, mostly very spherical.
ten seeds for ten dollars, shipped first-class.
pay through paypal.
also accepting checks / money orders.

quantity discount.
PM for invoice, please include paypal address.

shipping to united states addresses only.

Its my understanding that glabra makes a superior rootstock for other (better) annonas.  When my pond apple fruited and I finally was able to taste it, I said 'blah' and chopped it down, but not before rooting a few cuttings for potential future use.  If you're into grafting, take a few cuttings and get them rooted.  A single stem with roots formed is the time to graft, before the thing starts to branch.

Yes, imbe flowers are frequented by bees and other insects.  So even if they are a mile apart it could be close enough. Certainly twenty metres is nothing to a bee.  Methinks you're all set...

First thing to pop into my mind was the dreaded 'greening disease' which is a newcomer to florida, just because macronutrient deficiency usually causes yellowing to the spaces between the veins, rather than to the veins themselves.  But this yellowing seems to be quite symetrical, which should rule out greening.

http://edis.ifas.ufl.edu/LyraEDISServlet?command=getImageDetail&image_soid=FIGURE%2015&document_soid=HS383&document_version=43900

Maybe some micronutrient lacking.  Sorry to not be of more help.

Well I have hayden, kent, beverly, and valencia pride, and I second the motion on vp.  They do quickly grow into monsters, but it could always be chopped back if that's an issue.  In addition to the fact that vp seems virtually impervious to anthracnose, it is very prolific and the fruits are just huge.  They are virtually stringless and the flavor is exquisite, with hints of pineapple and coconut.  The only downside from my perspective, they tend to bloom in mid january, right before the 'only' frost here in this area, west of tampa bay.  It will produce a second flush of flowers in feb, but much less numerous, so most years the crop is greatly reduced.  My only other problem, the squirrels like to chew them while still green and not yet ready to pick, but what the hell ya gonna do?