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I think you know that answer as you used the word "generally" in your question.  My understanding is that all poly mango seeds have the potential to produce something other than a clone of the original.  From what I read, sometimes it is the weakest and sometimes not.  There is a recent video from Mango Men Homestead relative to selecting rootstock to remove the sexual embryo and retain the clonal ones  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d42Gzs86Gk8  .  I believe this video provides the basic answer to your question as, in my thinking, the plant from the sexual embryo would be the one you want for a hybrid.

I think others with more scientific knowledge in the field will be chiming in soon to provide you with more info.

Having issues that seem to be spreading among several small grafted mango trees as well as a couple of seedlings now.  I thought it was Anthracnose and sprayed a little over a week ago with Cueva Copper and then a few days later with a mild soap solution but it still seems to be spreading.
Any thoughts on ways to get this under control would be appreciated as it is destroying new growth.

For those that want to have a larger surface area to heat, anyone ever consider a single waterbed with a waterbed heater.  It would include a thermostat and I would think they might be readily available used.  Or perhaps one of those heaters under a flexible kiddie pool with a little water and perhaps very light dose of liquid fertilizer for periodic nutrient uptake of potted plants, slightly warming the solution to help encourage the root system uptake.

Crap, now my mind is really going - overthinking possibilities.  What about adding an underwater speaker, lol.  But seriously on the sound issue, has anyone tried utilizing music?  This is an article that not only talks about it possibly help plants grow but also gets into the way it affects insects, etc.
https://pistilsnursery.com/blogs/journal/music-and-plant-growth-heres-what-the-science-says 

This morning here, April 10, 2022, our temp has dropped to 43 degrees.  We are in a cold microclimate in Lakeland and it has been low 40's for several hours.  In that our season has been a bust from the previous bad weather here causing the loss of panicles on most of our trees, does anyone think this might be enough to force a late bloom for the Mango trees or is one night not enough to make a difference?  Now down to 42.

With respect to watering my seedlings that are in 1 gallon pots, I am going to try an outside the box approach.  The bases of these one gallon pots are just under 6" diameter.  I am going to purchase 6" or 7" pvc or aluminum gutter in 10 ft lengths and connect 3 together with caps on the ends.  I am going to take cinder blocks and space them about 3 ft apart (might even be able to space them further apart) and run 2 of these gutters on top.  I am going to also put a spigot at the end of each length at the bottom.  With each 30 ft length I should be able to place at least 50 seedlings in their respective containers into the gutters.

As the seedlings require watering, I can fill the gutters with water so the seedlings can draw up the water, or for that matter liquid fertilizer they need and when they are adequately watered, open the spigot, perhaps connected to a hose to drain off the excess.  If we get rains to handle the watering, I can simply leave the spigots open so the seedlings are not sitting in standing water long term.  If it is still an issue to keep enough water, I could automate with timers and add overflows to maintain a consistent water level for a set amount of time.

I can also put hook style clips down to the cinder blocks to stabilize the gutters in windy conditions.

Probably will be considered an unorthodox method by many seasoned professionals but it should work and not be overly expensive.

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Gentle TFF Members,

Here is a link to an article about Del Monte's new pink pineapples that I found in the TicoTimes, an online Costarrican Newspaper and which I thought some of our TFF members might be interested to read:

The Del Monte Pink Pineapples of Costa Rica

https://ticotimes.net/2022/02/21/the-del-monte-pink-pineapples-of-costa-rica

Granted it is a promo for these 'new' pink piñas, but there are a few bits of interesting infromation on them in the article that I had not heard about before.

¡Pura Vida!

Paul M.
Zone 9b
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Epicatt, I see that you are in Tampa.  If you have an interest in trying the Pink Pineapple, Sanwa Produce on Hillsborough Avenue has them sometimes.  About a week ago I was in there and they had them for $6.99.  Not cheap but not the outrageous online prices they are commanding.  I picked up a few on a whim for us and my wife's two brothers and their wives.

To us, they did seem a bit sweeter and without the acid aftertaste but not sure we would make a special trip there in the future for them.

bovine, I and I am sure others would really like to see a few current pics of how your trees are doing now relative to using the wobblers.  Are the panicles generating fruit and are you seeing any residual benefit of additional panicles popping after the cold snaps?

Also, yuzr, I am also in Central Florida and have several trees similar to yours.  While mine are just beginning to show signs of new growth, I highly doubt that without surviving leaves on a tree, that those trees will generate fresh panicle growth this year, let alone produce any fruit.  I believe the best we can hope for is those trees generate new leaves and be thankful for those trees surviving at all to fruit again in future years.

We use mini wobblers over the top (similar to Bovine's picture) as well as two red microjets (color designates water volume) at the tree base. Skip all the technical stuff about dew point, wet and dry bulb temperature and just turn it on at 36 degrees. You won't be using a 500hp diesel pump that eats $ by the minute, so an extra hour or two is better spent getting a good nights sleep. Do what you can and leave the rest in God's hands.

What about turning it on earlier for frost protection?  Here in our ugly microclimate pocket in Lakeland this morning we dropped below 40 around 3:30 this morning and, while our thermometer didn't drop to 36 until about 6:30, we have light frost.  I am thinking either my digital thermometer is off by a couple of degrees or we are seeing frost forming once it is under 40.  Does a light frost have an impact on mango trees when it happens above 36?

Quote from: C24mccain on February 03, 2022, 07:22:54 PM

I almost setup overhead water this year but didn't get to it. After the three freeze nights we had this year I'm thinking I will get it setup next year. I did get a good pond pump installed this year and I have irrigation to my mangoes and lychee trees. I just need to do some plumbing with the right size wobblers. I have to to learn more about it.  Did your overhead frost protection pay off?

The light blue mini wobblers work perfectly. Perfect ice formation on the leaves with a icicle on the end. The ice stayed crystal clear so much that at first I could not tell I thought the leaves were just wet until closer inspection. A lot of folks who put to much faith into bassoline are severely disappointed now.

Bovine, first off, I am really happy to see how well your tropicals have survived the freezes using the icing method.  And, thank you for sharing all the updates with pics as well.

My remaining questions for you right now is that I have tried to search through the threads on this and while I did see pics of the the mini wobblers, etc, I haven't been able to see where you sourced the wobblers.  Was it local or online if you don't mind sharing?  Also I have noticed pics of where you appeared to use not only the white PVC but in some cases perhaps what I refer to as the black funny pipe which has often popped apart at connections under pressure for me unless I have used hose clamps.  Do you have reasonable confidence in both?

Thanks again for all you have shared!

Whatever we do to help for this weekend keep it handy.  Weather Underground is now predicting another front for next weekend with temps in the low 30's again in Lakeland. 

Also, fwiw, if you are doing some last minute preparation Harbor Freight stores have pretty reasonably priced moving blankets that could provide some insulation value.

Can anyone provide the information about the width and length of a roll as from what I am seeing, Buddy Tape is available in different widths?

Thanks in advance for a reply.