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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #525 on: February 11, 2015, 11:02:11 AM »
HA! Probably, being married and this my second go around, unlike in my younger period through college I have nothing to prove and about 20 years older than the average freshman LOL Got much more money in my pocket than I did last go around. So probably would not care and yes would get stained up LOL

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #526 on: February 11, 2015, 04:03:01 PM »
Its official, got my first Red Jabo the Hut. Now how do I turn this thing on to get candy out of it........

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #527 on: February 11, 2015, 04:09:05 PM »
On this forum, it aint true until you post the picture!!!  We need our daily dose of fruit porn!!! :P

Its official, got my first Red Jabo the Hut. Now how do I turn this thing on to get candy out of it........
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #528 on: February 11, 2015, 05:26:14 PM »
Ain't no fruit porn to show  :'( :'(    will post a pic of the new baby in a bit.

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #529 on: February 11, 2015, 05:38:15 PM »
Why? Because I had the day off, and had to add a Jabo Hut to my micro grove. Oro Negro avocado in the 3 galloner next to it in front of one of my sugar apples I have yet to plant. Now where to put these 2 is the better question.



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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #530 on: February 11, 2015, 06:02:42 PM »
That red is actually quite a bit bigger than the one I was eating fruit from yesterday.   The near constant fruit production will begin soon.  The oro negro looks good too.  Congrats!
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #531 on: February 11, 2015, 07:47:37 PM »
Here's my hybrid or is it the red , just finished fruiting and is flowering again .

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #532 on: February 11, 2015, 07:50:58 PM »
Fisherking, nice trees!  You can get away with fitting the jabo in wherever...the avo needs full sun and room to grow.  The red jabo can get less sun.
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #533 on: February 11, 2015, 09:11:40 PM »
Here's my hybrid or is it the red , just finished fruiting and is flowering again .


Nice Luc

Yes that's what I call red jabo, in Brazil they call it precoce or hibrida.

Probably my favorite fruit tree to date...can be grown almost anywhere in the world...does well in a pot for decades.
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #534 on: February 11, 2015, 09:48:10 PM »
I am debating pot or ground. In pot I understand it will not produce as much? I think I have a good spot that it will get sun from about 9am to about 3pm full sun then filtered sun through coco palm fronds.  Wife thinks I have lost my  gourd as I have been waking up earlier than usual, and walking around back yard staring at sun then ground. Marking areas. Then going back to see again and again how long I get sun in certain areas LOL  The avocado is splitting the difference of the mango trees and gonna move my small sugar apples elsewhere as they seem a bit on the ehh side. Lots of leaves with brown, barely any leaves. Will see how they do this season before I give up on them. Only mummified fruit last year.  But this JABO the HUT has me all sorts of excited. You bet I will be posting the first sprout that comes out of that bark LOL

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #535 on: February 11, 2015, 09:50:42 PM »
My trees in pots produce even more than the trees I've seen in the ground!

It all has to do with how you care for the trees

Low pH, lots of water, don't over fertilize, prune them properly.
I am debating pot or ground. In pot I understand it will not produce as much? I think I have a good spot that it will get sun from about 9am to about 3pm full sun then filtered sun through coco palm fronds.  Wife thinks I have lost my  gourd as I have been waking up earlier than usual, and walking around back yard staring at sun then ground. Marking areas. Then going back to see again and again how long I get sun in certain areas LOL  The avocado is splitting the difference of the mango trees and gonna move my small sugar apples elsewhere as they seem a bit on the ehh side. Lots of leaves with brown, barely any leaves. Will see how they do this season before I give up on them. Only mummified fruit last year.  But this JABO the HUT has me all sorts of excited. You bet I will be posting the first sprout that comes out of that bark LOL
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #536 on: February 11, 2015, 10:10:50 PM »
Keep reading about this pH thing LOL gonna have to figure it out and check my soil. Have just been using stuff from nurseries and the Depot.  Sooooooooo much to learn so little time.

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #537 on: February 12, 2015, 08:46:42 PM »
Paulista Jabo is telling me spring is here, I would agree maybe even say summer is here... 87 today and feels like its August.



I fertilized the plant about 2 weeks ago with some spring water diluted fermented urine (3 weeks old, close to 1 part urine to 10 parts water) with mycogrow added and agave syrup, gave .06ppm Brassinoide roughly in the water. Fertilized with about 4 oz of this mix to the plant. Growth flush most likely attributed to the warm temps +80s last few days, fertilizer may play a part. The plant is growing in mostly coco coir with leaf compost in a 12 gal Superoots. I see plenty of earth worm activity.
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #538 on: February 13, 2015, 03:19:01 AM »
Can a red jaboticaba be pruned as a shrub (ideally 4-5' high) and still remain productive? I have a small one sandwiched between two trees (a carambola and a wax jambu) and plan to let those trees grow high and keep the jaboticaba basically underneath them. Does the tree respond OK to pruning? Do you have any pruning tips?

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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #539 on: February 13, 2015, 09:16:00 AM »
Adam is huge jabo pruning advocate.  If you search for pruning jabos on the forum, you will probably find good info.  Basically, he prunes them from the bottom up to expose the ornamental peeling bark.  He even convinced oscar to do it! 
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #540 on: February 13, 2015, 10:51:53 AM »
Here's my hybrid or is it the red , just finished fruiting and is flowering again .


Nice Luc

Yes that's what I call red jabo, in Brazil they call it precoce or hibrida.

Probably my favorite fruit tree to date...can be grown almost anywhere in the world...does well in a pot for decades.

Adam , the reason I am a little confused is that in Harri Lorenzi's book page 220 he shows the Precoce and the Red as 2 different varieties ????
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #541 on: February 13, 2015, 10:54:21 AM »
Adam is huge jabo pruning advocate.  If you search for pruning jabos on the forum, you will probably find good info.  Basically, he prunes them from the bottom up to expose the ornamental peeling bark.  He even convinced oscar to do it!

I did this on Adam's advise , with very good results , thank you Adam .
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #542 on: February 13, 2015, 11:35:23 AM »
thanks Luc!

I'm so happy to hear this.

I'm starting to realize, even the species that I recommend not pruning (M. vexator, M. glazioviana, M. strigipes, M.guaquiea, Plinia edulis, P. rivularis...and others that fruit closer to branch tips) can benefit from branch thinning to increase air circulation and light penetration!

I will try to take before and after photos when I prune my big vexators (8yr), and glazioviana (12yr)...they have not been pruned their whole life.

Adam is huge jabo pruning advocate.  If you search for pruning jabos on the forum, you will probably find good info.  Basically, he prunes them from the bottom up to expose the ornamental peeling bark.  He even convinced oscar to do it!

I did this on Adam's advise , with very good results , thank you Adam .
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #543 on: February 13, 2015, 11:44:48 AM »
Pruning video!!!!! PLEASE!!!!! LOL

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« Reply #544 on: February 13, 2015, 12:44:58 PM »
Pruning video!!!!! PLEASE!!!!! LOL

great idea my friend...I will take your advise, the video is in the works.
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« Reply #545 on: February 13, 2015, 02:17:50 PM »
Thinning is one thing, but I was asking about pruning to limit the size of the plant to a shrub. Can it still remain productive if you do that? Obviously the quantity of fruit would be reduced.

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« Reply #546 on: February 13, 2015, 03:20:15 PM »
Thinning is one thing, but I was asking about pruning to limit the size of the plant to a shrub. Can it still remain productive if you do that? Obviously the quantity of fruit would be reduced.

red jabos stay pretty small from what i understand.  Shouldn't be an issue.
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« Reply #547 on: February 13, 2015, 03:26:24 PM »
Thinning is one thing, but I was asking about pruning to limit the size of the plant to a shrub. Can it still remain productive if you do that? Obviously the quantity of fruit would be reduced.

they fruit on old wood, so yes they can be pruned heavy as long as lots of old wood is left untouched....even sabara is good for this...you can keep a tree under 12ft tall fruiting heavy..for over 20yrs
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #548 on: February 13, 2015, 03:34:24 PM »
i believe this was a bit of a mistake on their part...they are the same essentially...one of the trees just made a lighter colored fruit...(I'm starting to realize the red jabo/hibrida/precoce is more variable than sabara from seed for sure).

If you plant enough red jaboticaba seeds, I'm sure you could even get a white fruited variety...I actually have a seedling right now that came from a Red jabo, it looks like a white jabo more than anything...but leaves are smaller, with venation less prominent and less bullate than aureana....waiting to see what the fruit looks like...and I'm excited to find some new varieties.



Here's my hybrid or is it the red , just finished fruiting and is flowering again .


Nice Luc

Yes that's what I call red jabo, in Brazil they call it precoce or hibrida.

Probably my favorite fruit tree to date...can be grown almost anywhere in the world...does well in a pot for decades.

Adam , the reason I am a little confused is that in Harri Lorenzi's book page 220 he shows the Precoce and the Red as 2 different varieties ????
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Re: Jaboticabaholics Anonymous
« Reply #549 on: February 14, 2015, 03:45:25 AM »
Pruning video!!!!! PLEASE!!!!! LOL

great idea my friend...I will take your advise, the video is in the works.

I'm real eager to see a vid on this. My Jabo is ~7' tall and pretty dense. It's fruiting quite a bit but only on the sides that get sun, the north is barren maybe opening it up will help it? If I understand what I'm reading more air and light inside may be conducive to fruiting?
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